Changes v Brisbane

[Pugz89]

Sounds like Bevo is trying to juggle the players as much as he can with Footscray having a bye next weekend. Will be why Declan and co will stay and play there this week.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

You forgot to log out of your Yojimbo account before you replied to Yojimbo !!

 

[Zgope1]

prefer the alignment with Red and Bont as the key forwards. Red's not an amazing target but he knows how to kick a goal. I really didn't rate Cloke's game last week and was hoping he'd be dropped.

another week for Webb to consolidate as a player at the highest level. Don't mind having him forward, he's clean and classy.

 

[doggies ftw]

I agree with what people are saying on Clay being unfit but IIRC his last two games before suspension were 30+ touches so he was obviously covering a fair bit more ground even if it was only at VFL level. Besides I doubt hed get another chance if he wasn't putting in hard yards, bevs not like that. I'd say theres a good chance he's got his shit together fitness eise over the last month, and the MC would know if that's the case or not

 

[doggies ftw]

prefer the alignment with Red and Bont as the key forwards. Red's not an amazing target but he knows how to kick a goal. I really didn't rate Cloke's game last week and was hoping he'd be dropped.

another week for Webb to consolidate as a player at the highest level. Don't mind having him forward, he's clean and classy.

100% this. I just don't see what Cloke offers if he's not marking the footy, I could count the amount of genuine contested marks he's taken on one hand this year. Last week was our best looking forward set up of the year but I think that was more off the back of the fast and precise ball movement. Would have liked to replicate that but with Red instead of Cloke as a much better option. Still keen to see the double prong attack in action though so fingers crossed they both turn it on!

 

[Yojimbo]

You forgot to log out of your Yojimbo account before you replied to Yojimbo !!

I like replying to myself it's much safer these days.

 

[Yojimbo]

Having a good convo you two?

I always thought a travelling emergency was what you packed Imodium in your suitcase for.

Always dogwatch, Luke Beveridge had to have a press conference
to clear up the "Travelling emergency" so it is a hot topic.

 

[SayerTheCreator]

Feel like Clay could tear this game to shreds. He's gotta be hungry and seems like the sort of person who'd be shitty with himself over the way he's been playing

 

[Doggies_13]

I agree with what people are saying on Clay being unfit but IIRC his last two games before suspension were 30+ touches so he was obviously covering a fair bit more ground even if it was only at VFL level. Besides I doubt hed get another chance if he wasn't putting in hard yards, bevs not like that. I'd say theres a good chance he's got his shit together fitness eise over the last month, and the MC would know if that's the case or not

I think the difference with vfl level is that pace of the game is so much slower and it allows a player like smith who has lost a yard of pace due to his poor preseason to get to more contests and impact play more.

 

[Doggies_13]

Smith has laid 13 tackles inside 50 across the 7 games he's played this year. Among the competition's players who have played at least 5 games, there are only 4 players (Jamie Cripps, Jeffy Garlett, Jack Lonie, Paul Puopolo) are averaging more per game. Granted a lot of it is in F50 stoppages and not necessarily tackling to stop rebound, but the principle that he hasn't contributed value with defensive elements in our attack is off the mark IMO.

My criticism of him is that given his height ("only" 181cm) he's not nearly quick enough offensively to add value to our team, for example, our loss in our attempted comeback vs Geelong was in part because our forward thrusts were thwarted by Smith being our player on the lead, but not being anywhere near quicker than the 190cm+ players who were defending him. Someone like Dunkley might take his role over the next few weeks, whilst still having the lack of pace and kicking, at least something offers us something more in the air by simple virtue of being 190cm tall.

So in short I'm not so worried about how we'll be hurt by Brisbane by their half backs (Smith still offers us something applying pressure) but rather our our electric ball movement that we showed last week might be hurt by Smith taking Dickson's spot and being able to get lesser seperation using pace than Dickson was against taller opponents.

I hear what your saying but I associate that more with the smith of last year, there is no doubt smith is slower this year than he was last year and it makes the role he plays harder and less effective. I'm extremely disappointed in smith more than any of our players, to get through a year without injury and win a flag and then turn up like he has this year is poor, he should have been having his best year with a proper preseason under his belt after all the injuries in previous years but here we have him unfit. Piss poor attitude if you ask me

 

[Royale]

^^I'm sure the team and indeed Clay Smith have made note of your disappointment and will correct their mistakes on the weekend.

 

[Doggies_13]

^^I'm sure the team and indeed Clay Smith have made note of your disappointment and will correct their mistakes on the weekend.

What an absolute flog post. This is the reason this place is going crap idiot posts that derail general conversations.

Smith has battled injury his entire career and his career has looked over more than once, if there is one player that should be doing everything in there power to be right and take every opportunity they have to make an impact it should be him, he should no better than anyone he might not get many more chances if another serious injury comes his way.

But yeah don't read the post just make a ridiculous post that adds nothing to this board all at an attempt to make your little self feel bigger than you actually are. Great contributor. No wonder this place has gone to s**t

 

[Del165892]

What an absolute flog post. This is the reason this place is going crap idiot posts that derail general conversations.

Smith has battled injury his entire career and his career has looked over more than once, if there is one player that should be doing everything in there power to be right and take every opportunity they have to make an impact it should be him, he should no better than anyone he might not get many more chances if another serious injury comes his way.

But yeah don't read the post just make a ridiculous post that adds nothing to this board all at an attempt to make your little self feel bigger than you actually are. Great contributor. No wonder this place has gone to s**t

I'd argue that a bloke who has fought through three knee recos to play a huge part in breaking our flag drought is entitled to have a few extra pies over the off season. I'm certain he will be back and better than ever. Never forget his 4 goal, 26 touch 8 tackle BoG performance in the prelim. No Clay = no flag.

 

[Royale]

What an absolute flog post. This is the reason this place is going crap idiot posts that derail general conversations.

Smith has battled injury his entire career and his career has looked over more than once, if there is one player that should be doing everything in there power to be right and take every opportunity they have to make an impact it should be him, he should no better than anyone he might not get many more chances if another serious injury comes his way.

But yeah don't read the post just make a ridiculous post that adds nothing to this board all at an attempt to make your little self feel bigger than you actually are. Great contributor. No wonder this place has gone to s**t

This place is going alright but for posters who take it personally when players dare be anything but perfect. Clay Smith owes you nothing. The match committee owes you nothing. But let's whine and throw a hissy fit because the team wasnt chosen as expected.



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[Doggies_13]

I'd argue that a bloke who has fought through three knee recos to play a huge part in breaking our flag drought is entitled to have a few extra pies over the off season. I'm certain he will be back and better than ever. Never forget his 4 goal, 26 touch 8 tackle BoG performance in the prelim. No Clay = no flag.

He was sensational last year and what he is over come no doubt and without him we would not have won the prelim but he has really let himself and the club down this year with not getting himself into shape to contribute to the team and he's not alone but I think it would mean a lot more to someone going through what he has

 

[Doggies_13]

This place is going alright but for posters who take it personally when players dare be anything but perfect. Clay Smith owes you nothing. The match committee owes you nothing. But let's whine and throw a hissy fit because the team wasnt chosen as expected.



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I don't throw a hissy fit about selection any week if you've ever read my posts in the past, smith offered a lot last year this year he's let him self down. Myself and any other member and supporter can have an opinion and criticise players and no one said he has to be perfect he should of put more into his pre season, he does that he's doesn't lose the yard of pace he has that makes him ineffective this year.

To have people act like an utter flog rather than actually continue a genuine discussion about a player that's underperforming is ridiculous and juvenile. The crap that goes on on this board is lately is ridiculous, players have faults and if they get pointed out people carry on. You gave a snide post and a completely useless post that offers nothing to a discussion.

 

[Royale]

Our entire teams performance has been down compared to the previous 2 years. Smith ain't the only one who's been sent back to the 2s.

By the way it was a light barb at your expense I'll admit. I dont apologize for it. You need thicker skin.



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[Doggies_13]

**** this board.

To try to have a genuine discussion and cop crap for that and get shit posts that add nothing to the discussion directed at me **** it

Got enough shit going on with out coping it here for trying to have a genuine discussion.

 

[Doggy]

**** this board.

To try to have a genuine discussion and cop crap for that and get shit posts that add nothing to the discussion directed at me **** it

Got enough shit going on with out coping it here for trying to have a genuine discussion.

Calm down

 

[Del165892]

I'm never sad to see Clay named. This was one of my favourite moments of watching football.

 

[Doggy]

I'm never sad to see Clay named. This was one of my favourite moments of watching football.

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Except that red menace Ling

 

[theburst]

What I got from the Presser re Bob is something like : 'we need Bob and his hamstring 100% for the huge GWS clash next Friday night. We won most games last year without him. I'm backing the selected 22 to win it tomorrow'.

 

[Royale]

Lol. Lingy handled that pretty well. You can see the wheels spinning in Lingy head when Clay let on his mate had passed.

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[Anja_Nees]

Suspect Bob's body is starting to pack it in a little. Hopefully we can get him right for a solid late run of games.

 

[SayerTheCreator]

I'm never sad to see Clay named. This was one of my favourite moments of watching football.

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Mine too. Especially that awkward non-handshake gesture. He was playing on pure emotion.