Prediction Changes v Hawks in Tassie

[Mantis Toboggan]

I feel with Laith he needs a run of games to settle down a bit. He just keeps getting injured. If he could get 15 games in a row I have a feeling he would be much improved with the ball in hand. Of course, I could be totally wrong about this.

 

[Next Waiting]

Isn't that what the Duryea inclusion was for?

Yes, but I'd imagine that Roarke will become part of the back 6 rotation as opposed to having to use Treloar or Williams as they add more value up the ground - especially if Duryea or similar was injured and had to be replaced. Could also play wing if required. It may be that Williams has effectively taken West's spot.

 

[Golden_6]

Yes, but I'd imagine that Roarke will become part of the back 6 rotation as opposed to having to use Treloar or Williams as they add more value up the ground - especially if Duryea or similar was injured and had to be replaced. Could also play wing if required. It may be that Williams has effectively taken West's spot.

We have named 7 genuine defenders not including Treloar or Williams. There is zero chance we’re using Roarke as part of our defensive 7.

 

[House_of_Dahl]

you will not win a premiership with fringe players like Roarke and Cordy.

Except for when we did..

 

[Mr. Walker]

Before we condemn the whole Match Committee for the dropping of West and other ( to us) strange decisions made throughout the year, maybe we should look deeper at the actions of the man with the most power. What if one person has secretly appointed himself to numerous positions on the MC ( deputy MC leader, first alternate MC delegate, MC person responsible for non-Ruckmen in a ruckman role, etc) and so always wins the vote? It has happened in other institutions.

 

[acool]

Before we condemn the whole Match Committee for the dropping of West and other ( to us) strange decisions made throughout the year, maybe we should look deeper at the actions of the man with the most power. What if one person has secretly appointed himself to numerous positions on the MC ( deputy MC leader, first alternate MC delegate, MC person responsible for non-Ruckmen in a ruckman role, etc) and so always wins the vote? It has happened in other institutions.

No way. He is a Sharks fan. He does not even follow AFL. But then this would explain the unexplainable random selections.

 

[DognBones]

Can't understand the Bruce or R Smith selections at all. Not sure how Bruce miraculously regained form when the VFL team had a bye last week. R Smith has been solid at VFL level without ever looking likely to make much impact at senior level. Both would want to play a meaningful role against the Hawks or the angst directed at our MC will continue to grow.

 

[Freshwater]

I just read West has been dropped. I am just gobsmacked by our selection. I know we are not the ‘experts’. But many of us have been involved in footy for 30,40,50 even 60+ years. In what universe is VDM ahead of West? Selection these last few years has been appalling, but this one more than any makes me angry. Bevo is destroying this kid, and playing favourites again. Selection integrity is non existent.

 

[Planet Dogs]

I just read West has been dropped. I am just gobsmacked by our selection. I know we are not the ‘experts’. But many of us have been involved in footy for 30,40,50 even 60+ years. In what universe is VDM ahead of West? Selection these last few years has been appalling, but this one more than any makes me angry. Bevo is destroying this kid, and playing favourites again. Selection integrity is non existent.

Totally agree. If West decides to move to another club:
1. I Couldn't blame him.
2. I'd want to see the end of Beveridge at the club.

 

[Bald]

Can't understand the Bruce or R Smith selections at all. Not sure how Bruce miraculously regained form when the VFL team had a bye last week. R Smith has been solid at VFL level without ever looking likely to make much impact at senior level. Both would want to play a meaningful role against the Hawks or the angst directed at our MC will continue to grow.

Whilst I agree with your sentiment. Bruce wasn’t dropped, he was managed. His inclusion is based on us needing another talk for ruck support and forward support, and whilst I don’t think it should be his position, the other choices are Josh Schache who appears to be gone, Stefan Martin who is very very old, Sweet in the ruck and English forward/ruck (which is probably my preference - though I don’t think the overall net benefit would differ too much from what we have).

 

[Dogsman16]

I'd be more "understanding" of the West decision if it was a like for like replacement who was kicking goals at VFL level. Instead we bring in Rourke who probably gets his usual 12-16 disposals at VFL level and maybe snares a goal.

This type of selection pisses the entire supporter base off. Another occasion where we have to spin the magnets and position a player in a unnatural/different position without any real basis to do so.

 

[bobs head soup]

Some of the comments about West leaving the club are just ridiculous. He's been given 14 consecutive games and his form had clearly tapered off.

The club look at a lot more data than we do regarding ground covered, second efforts etc, maybe he's just a young player who needs a spell

 

[Charlie Bucket]

I'd be more "understanding" of the West decision if it was a like for like replacement who was kicking goals at VFL level. Instead we bring in Rourke who probably gets his usual 12-16 disposals at VFL level and maybe snares a goal.

This type of selection pisses the entire supporter base off. Another occasion where we have to spin the magnets and position a player in a unnatural/different position without any real basis to do so.

West’s kicked 2 goals in the last 5 weeks, and besides a couple of nice assists in that time, hasn’t done a lot. His last two weeks have been particularly poor. For a small fwd, it’s a pretty poor return.

They’ve obviously decided to go taller up fwd, so a small’s missed out. VDM’s been poor for 1 week, West for multiple. It’s not really a controversial selection choice.

 

[Dogsman16]

West’s kicked 2 goals in the last 5 weeks, and besides a couple of nice assists in that time, hasn’t done a lot. His last two weeks have been particularly poor. For a small fwd, it’s a pretty poor return.

They’ve obviously decided to go taller up fwd, so a small’s missed out. VDM’s been poor for 1 week, West for multiple. It’s not really a controversial selection choice.

Its more "who we replaced him with" not "why was he dropped"

I think if Garcia had been recalled or we had a small forward banging down the door at VFL level then most of us would understand the rationale.

Rourke Smith as the replacement though makes no sense. Then it goes back to the argument I made. There a pretty good chance that Rourke will play on the wing and then we are pushing someone forward to replace West but hasn't played forward much.

Not to mention we just dropped McNeil who also can play a similar role.

 

[Mantis Toboggan]

Some of the comments about West leaving the club are just ridiculous. He's been given 14 consecutive games and his form had clearly tapered off.

The club look at a lot more data than we do regarding ground covered, second efforts etc, maybe he's just a young player who needs a spell

I could understand that if it were mid-season. It’s a must-win game and he is easily best 22. This isn’t Bevo looking after West, it’s Bevo being Bevo.

Good god, I hope there are some changes in our footy department at the end of the year.

 

[Charlie Bucket]

Its more "who we replaced him with" not "why was he dropped"

I think if Garcia had been recalled or we had a small forward banging down the door at VFL level then most of us would understand the rationale.

Rourke Smith as the replacement though makes no sense. Then it goes back to the argument I made. There a pretty good chance that Rourke will play on the wing and then we are pushing someone forward to replace West but hasn't played forward much.

Not to mention we just dropped McNeil who also can play a similar role.

We’ve dropped two small fwds. I think that’s enough to tell us the strategy is to go taller.

Nothing to do with like for like selections.

 

[Optimistic Dog]

Looks like a reasonable day in Tassie maybe gets a bit windy as usual. Put the game away earlier and rest up Bont as much as possible in the hope it is a black white day in Melbourne and Carlton are feeling the blues.


Summary

Min 1Max 13Showers developing.Possible rainfall: 1 to 3 mmChance of any rain: 80%

Launceston area​

Cloudy. The chance of frost in the early morning. High (70%) chance of showers, most likely in the evening. Winds northwesterly and light increasing to 15 to 25 km/h in the morning then increasing to 25 to 35 km/h in the middle of the day.

 

[bobs head soup]

I could understand that if it were mid-season. It’s a must-win game and he is easily best 22. This isn’t Bevo looking after West, it’s Bevo being Bevo.

Good god, I hope there are some changes in our footy department at the end of the year.

The more important the match, the more appropriate it would be to spell somebody who's showing signs they've reached the end of their campaign.

 

[BrisDog]

West’s kicked 2 goals in the last 5 weeks, and besides a couple of nice assists in that time, hasn’t done a lot. His last two weeks have been particularly poor. For a small fwd, it’s a pretty poor return.

They’ve obviously decided to go taller up fwd, so a small’s missed out. VDM’s been poor for 1 week, West for multiple. It’s not really a controversial selection choice.

Stats only tell half the story. He hit a couple of GWS players bloody hard last week, shrugged numerous tackles and his hands were excellent. He is a very good footballer. Players like Roarke Smith are a dime a dozen.

 

[Dogsman16]

We’ve dropped two small fwds. I think that’s enough to tell us the strategy is to go taller.

Nothing to do with like for like selections.

We aren’t going taller though.

Bruce replaces Martin
Duryea in for Mcneil
Rourke in for West.

The tall structure remains the same. It’s the players and their positions that have completely changed.

 

[Charlie Bucket]

We aren’t going taller though.

Bruce replaces Martin
Duryea in for Mcneil
Rourke in for West.

The tall structure remains the same. It’s the players and their positions that have completely changed.

Again, they aren’t like for like.

Even with Martin in the side last week, we played the two prong key fwds for majority minutes. The two ruckman had almost no impact up fwd.

We’ve clearly made the decision to remove two smalls from the side, to play 3 genuine tall fwds. English will play majority ruck.

The structure isn’t the same as last week. It’s obvious in the changes the coaches have made.

 

[Charlie Bucket]

Two small fwds/hf’s out, a defender and small/medium utility in.

It’s then pretty clear we’ve chosen to go taller in the fwd half for majority of this weeks game with Bruce as opposed to the zero impact Martin had last week.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

Its more "who we replaced him with" not "why was he dropped"

I think if Garcia had been recalled or we had a small forward banging down the door at VFL level then most of us would understand the rationale.

Rourke Smith as the replacement though makes no sense. Then it goes back to the argument I made. There a pretty good chance that Rourke will play on the wing and then we are pushing someone forward to replace West but hasn't played forward much.

Not to mention we just dropped McNeil who also can play a similar role.

Not if the replacement has a particular role to play which is different from the one West had and which may not be required this week, or is being covered by someone else. As has been pointed out, the coaches have a lot more data than we do and see the game panning out in ways we wouldn’t think of.

 

[Charlie Bucket]

Stats only two half the story. He hit a couple of GWS players bloody hard last week, shrugged numerous tackles and his hands were excellent. He is a very good footballer. Players like Roarke Smith are a dime a dozen.

We must be going pretty bad when laying a few hard tackles and dishing out a couple of clean handballs guarantees a spot in the side.

Isn’t this kind of shitty return what McComb was hounded for when his output was similar?

If we want selection integrity across the board, then West can’t be handed games either.

 

[Sharpiesadog]

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I hope that is not aimed at me for having an opinion.