Preview Changes vs Geelong - Rnd 6, 2021

[THE A5]

Yeah, general rule of thumb: if you're in a country with a strong food culture, don't try their version of another cuisine. Chinese in Italy always seems to have oregano in it somehow.

They make it to their taste tbf. It’s the same as pizza and pasta in America

 

[THE A5]

Ins Williams, Trew, Cameron
Outs - Vardy, Waterman, Langdon.

Cameron maybe underdone but cannot be as slow as Langdon is.
Witherden proved this point ^^ Underdone Meh 30 Disposals.

I dare say Nelson comes out for Hurn next week.

In what world was Witherden underdone? He had a full preseason and like 5 games of WAFL preseason/WAFl games under his belt. Cameron literally came off a long term injury and barely got near the ball in his limited minutes

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

 

[amazingjoshy]

Dangerfield has surgery on injured ankle, out ‘indefinitely’

Geelong superstar Patrick Dangerfield will be sidelined “indefinitely” after being sent in for surgery on a syndesmosis tear in his right ankle.

www.theage.com.au

Might be out for a while

 

[Mulldogg]

They'll play him in the goal square and will probably kick a few goals.

No that’ll be Gary Rohan with his one good game for the year where he’ll kick 3 snags in the first quarter and then barely touch it for the next three quarters. Unfortunately the damage will likely have already been done and we’ll be on the end of our average losing margin since the 2006 miracle game.

 

[Eaglemaniac]

Yeah the best thing a side can do against us is announce they’re resting their stars and bringing in untried kids, coz those kids are guaranteed to come in and tear us up..

 

[Eaglemaniac]

Carbine Chaos and Eaglemaniac still have a poster of Corey Adamson hanging in their rooms

May or may not be a naked pic..can neither confirm or deny..

 

[kane249]

Send Nelson to Duncan now and it will go a long way towards us winning

 

[Chris_6678]

92.9 Triple M Perth
@TripleMPerth
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35m
West Coast have chartered a plane and will fly straight to Avalon airport rather then theit normal Virgin flight to Melbourne and then a bus to Geelong via
andrew_embley
#AFL #perth

Tom Browne's News - Jeremy Cameron may not be 100%, Steven May set to return, Patrick Dangerfield's ankle - Triple M Footy AFL

Tom Browne's on the story hunt down in Geelong but called in to give us all the latest news!

omny.fm

 

[SloppyJoe]

A chartered flight, eh?

That should be worth 2-3 goals I'd reckon.

Cats by 30.

 

[swingdog]

A chartered flight, eh?

That should be worth 2-3 goals I'd reckon.

Cats by 30.

Should be doing this every fortnight.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

92.9 Triple M Perth
@TripleMPerth
·
35m
West Coast have chartered a plane and will fly straight to Avalon airport rather then theit normal Virgin flight to Melbourne and then a bus to Geelong via
andrew_embley
#AFL #perth

Tom Browne's News - Jeremy Cameron may not be 100%, Steven May set to return, Patrick Dangerfield's ankle - Triple M Footy AFL

Tom Browne's on the story hunt down in Geelong but called in to give us all the latest news!

omny.fm

We hired Dr Nick for Yeo and Shuey to be able to afford the charter flight.

Just soft cap things.

 

[Balls In]

Dangerfield has surgery on injured ankle, out ‘indefinitely’

Geelong superstar Patrick Dangerfield will be sidelined “indefinitely” after being sent in for surgery on a syndesmosis tear in his right ankle.

www.theage.com.au

Might be out for a while

Just a little shout out to Dangerfield. The commentary at the time suggested the injury as occurred in a tackle attempt but having seen the footage again I'm convinced he did it a couple of seconds before, landing badly after a mark attempt. To his credit he bounced straight up in the play ran 5 steps at speed and then laid the tackle.. a good 5 steps on the injury.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

David King and Daniel Hoyne from Champion Data did a short clip this week and focussed on a few areas pertinent for the Eagles v Cats this week.

1. Eagles Efficiency - we have been 1st in Goals per inside 50 for 4 years but our supply has dried up since 2018. High link to contested ball in my opinion and showing how much we have missed our depth with inside mids.



2. Cats Efficiency - second behind us for 3 years and dropped off this year. More picking up Hawkins in the pocket and not hitting targets inside 50


3. Kick Rating - Hurn in the top 5 and it does take into account the type of kick taken (ie backwards dinky passes are expected to be hit so score low where as probing deep into inside 50 and hitting a lead lace out scores high). I would like to see how Witherden goes with this one.



4. Deep Dive - this is goal scoring accuracy and again takes into account where you kick it from and under what sort of pressure.

Eagles have 2 in top 5 plus Oscar is rated number 6 in the AFL

Hawkins has gone down in 2021.


For what it is worth, King was recommending that the opposition No. 1 KPD pick up Oscar as he is more damaging now than JK.

 

[MrWoollie]

Carbine Chaos and Eaglemaniac still have a poster of Corey Adamson hanging in their rooms

And what's wrong with that.

I've still got a poster of should have been 3 x premiership full forward (and the last Eagle to kick 100 goals in a season) Brad Smith...

 

[RookiePick]

For what it is worth, King was recommending that the opposition No. 1 KPD pick up Oscar as he is more damaging now than JK.

Kingy must have cash on us. JK will kick 5+ a game on second stringers.

 

[Dylan82]

In: Ainsworth
Out: Kennedy (rested)

Jones to come into the playing 22 after being the substitute against Collingwood; O'Neill as the substitute this week.

Vardy to play more minutes, occupying Kennedy's recent role of decoy forward in addition to covering for Naitanui in the ruck.

Jones in for a tall provides more run (something the team is desperately in short supply of) and gives the team a better structure up forward with the narrow pockets at Kardinia Park.

O'Neill has managed just 5 disposals over 4 second half quarters in his past two AFL games. That's pretty poor, especially so considering that he has been playing through the middle with ample opportunity to win possession.
Ainsworth has good WAFL form and is guaranteed to still be running around like an over-excited cattle dog in the last quarter.

Geelong are possibly the only team in the competition that the club may currently be capable of out-running, particularly if it [West Coast] goes in with a smaller selection.

The other key in out-running the opponent here is the narrowness of the ground. Narrow grounds congest the space for marking forwards, who often end up pushing deeper towards goal in an attempt to stretch the defence. This opens up space 40-50m from goal that is perfect for runners higher up the ground to get into and exploit.

The Cats always have so many goalkicking midfielders as a result of the shape of their home ground as much as their tactics. Given remit to drift forward, Kelly and Sheed particularly will have plenty of opportunity to impact the scoreboard and create headaches for the opposing defence.

As we are aware from the Subiaco days, over-running an opponent on a narrow ground when you have marking targets up forward provides all the ingredients for an old-fashioned flat-tracking demolition.

We have not had the chance to embarrass the Cats in their own backyard in a very long time. You have to go back to the previous century for the last time the club won by more than a goal at that venue.

No, Yeo, Shuey, Hurn or Kennedy... And yet it is Geelong who are looking the more scared, desperately trying to rush players back into their team that are far from 100%. Dangerfield requires surgery - yet they were just about to play him this week, as they are clutching at straws. They are out of form, struggling to contain run defensively and look tediously slow when in possession. Regardless of the players we have out, the Cats remain there for the taking.

Tag Selwood with Nelson. Put Waterman on Stewart and drag him to the goalsquare. Run Brander with Duncan. Use Ainsworth to clamp down on Smith if necessary. Place Redden to go defensively on Parfitt at stoppages and let the others go head-to-head with an attacking mindset.

They are going to get smashed in the ruck by the Naitanui-Vardy combination. They have no-one other than Stanley, who will be monstered, and they refuse to rotate Blicavs there as it will create mismatches in their defence. Ratugolea is just a single VFL match back from a broken leg, so don't expect to him soon and Cameron has done his hamstring twice this year already - the last thing he will be doing is rucking. It means Geelong will probably go with De Koning as the primary support for Stanley (a second-gamer against Naitanui) - and also means they could be about to select a team that is far too tall and is just asking to be run into the ground.


Play it smart, keep cohesion in the defence and bring the intent that we know this team is capable of, and this coming match could well end up being a red letter day in the history of the club.

 

[RookiePick]

In: Ainsworth
Out: Kennedy (rested)

Jones to come into the playing 22 after being the substitute against Collingwood; O'Neill as the substitute this week.

Vardy to play more minutes, occupying Kennedy's recent role of decoy forward in addition to covering for Naitanui in the ruck.

Jones in for a tall provides more run (something the team is desperately in short supply of) and gives the team a better structure up forward with the narrow pockets at Kardinia Park.

O'Neill has managed just 5 disposals over 4 second half quarters in his past two AFL games. That's pretty poor, especially so considering that he has been playing through the middle with ample opportunity to win possession.
Ainsworth has good WAFL form and is guaranteed to still be running around like an over-excited cattle dog in the last quarter.

Geelong are possibly the only team in the competition that the club may currently be capable of out-running, particularly if it [West Coast] goes in with a smaller selection.

The other key in out-running the opponent here is the narrowness of the ground. Narrow grounds congest the space for marking forwards, who often end up pushing deeper towards goal in an attempt to stretch the defence. This opens up space 40-50m from goal that is perfect for runners higher up the ground to get into and exploit.

The Cats always have so many goalkicking midfielders as a result of the shape of their home ground as much as their tactics. Given remit to drift forward, Kelly and Sheed particularly will have plenty of opportunity to impact the scoreboard and create headaches for the opposing defence.

As we are aware from the Subiaco days, over-running an opponent on a narrow ground when you have marking targets up forward provides all the ingredients for an old-fashioned flat-tracking demolition.

We have not had the chance to embarrass the Cats in their own backyard in a very long time. You have to go back to the previous century for the last time the club won by more than a goal at that venue.

No, Yeo, Shuey, Hurn or Kennedy... And yet it is Geelong who are looking the more scared, desperately trying to rush players back into their team that are far from 100%. Dangerfield requires surgery - yet they were just about to play him this week, as they are clutching at straws. They are out of form, struggling to contain run defensively and look tediously slow when in possession. Regardless of the players we have out, the Cats remain there for the taking.

Tag Selwood with Nelson. Put Waterman on Stewart and drag him to the goalsquare. Run Brander with Duncan. Use Ainsworth to clamp down on Smith if necessary. Place Redden to go defensively on Parfitt at stoppages and let the others go head-to-head with an attacking mindset.

They are going to get smashed in the ruck by the Naitanui-Vardy combination. They have no-one other than Stanley, who will be monstered, and they refuse to rotate Blicavs there as it will create mismatches in their defence. Ratugolea is just a single VFL match back from a broken leg, so don't expect to him soon and Cameron has done his hamstring twice this year already - the last thing he will be doing is rucking. It means Geelong will probably go with De Koning as the primary support for Stanley (a second-gamer against Naitanui) - and also means they could be about to select a team that is far too tall and is just asking to be run into the ground.


Play it smart, keep cohesion in the defence and bring the intent that we know this team is capable of, and this coming match could well end up being a red letter day in the history of the club.

This is exactly the kind of post that gets my hopes up. If I'm crying into my beer on Saturday night, I'm holding you responsible.

 

[The wily weagle]

When was the last time we beat the cats at Geelong? Was it 2006?

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Danger set for surgery, will miss.

 

[The Passenger]

The only issue is the quality of the player you bring in. More than happy to bring in J Jones as he had 26 and 2 goals in the WAFL which are decent numbers.

Yep, I'd be bringing in Jones for Langdon anyway. And if JK is not good to go, Winder comes in (or Langdon gets a reprieve). Don't need to bring in another tall to replace JK when we are already tall, and even have Jake the Snake floating around who could find himself in the forward line for bits.

Given Geelong's ruck stocks, don't see the point in keeping Vardy. But I suspect we will if JK is not good to go. At least in this scenario Vardy should get more TOG and we can justify that role a hell of a lot more with only 2 genuine KP forwards, rather than previously trying to find some forward line time for Vardy alongside our 3 gun tall's

For mine, I'd like to see Trew given his debut. For mine, that would be for Vardy, but more likely if it were to happen it would come at O'Neill's expense. Ainsworth seems to be hovering at selection as well.

I'm pretty sure we'll revert back to the 6KPP (Either JK out injured, or Vardy dropped) + Waterman + Brander + Rotham, so we'll still be pretty tall but a more palatable set up.

I don't see selection being this difference between a win or loss this weekend, but rather attitude and the guys turning up on the day at a venue we've traditionally struggled out. The charter flight to Avalon should hopefully help somewhat.

What I'd like:
In: Trew, Jones, Winder (if JK unfit)
Out: Vardy, Langdon, JK (if unfit)
Winder/Langdon sub depending on JK fitness

What I think it will be:
If JK fit: Ainsworth <=> Vardy (Winder sub)
If JK unfit: Ainsworth <=> O'Neill, Jones <=> JK (O'Neill sub)

 

[squashface]

Langdon was fine against the Pies, wouldn't be dropping him for that performance.

If JK doesn't get up Jones comes in for him, Ainsworth gets a turn as the sub.

Vardy gets a reprieve as Williams didn't really do much in the WAFL.

Foley gets a gig if Cole/Rotham need a week off to let their wounds heal.

 

[The Passenger]

Tag Selwood with Nelson. Put Waterman on Stewart and drag him to the goalsquare. Run Brander with Duncan. Use Ainsworth to clamp down on Smith if necessary. Place Redden to go defensively on Parfitt at stoppages and let the others go head-to-head with an attacking mindset.

Didn't watch Geelong on the weekend but noticed in the AFL stats this week, Dangerfield and Selwood only went into the centre bounce on 8 of 20 bounces. Well below Parfitt (15), Guthrie (14), and Duncan (13)... Wasn't due to spending loads of time on the bench - maybe picked up a knock and rested more up forward?

Wasn't the case in previous rounds so maybe Chris Scott was just trying something. With Danger out again, feels likely they'll revert to Selwood spending more time in the midfield, and fair chance they would have done so even if Danger was playing.

Or maybe Selwood was starting on a wing then moving into a more typical midfield role after the bounce - I can't really see the sense in him playing a different role other than right at the coal face. He hasn't got any pace so no point in getting him out in the open on a wing, and he's not really a huge threat (ala Martin, Bont, Dangerfield) in the forward 50.

 

[FKASC]

Smith has been Geelong’s most dangerous player when I’ve seen them this year. Surely we can tag that campaigner

 

[Rowan18]

In: Ainsworth
Out: Kennedy (rested)

Jones to come into the playing 22 after being the substitute against Collingwood; O'Neill as the substitute this week.

Vardy to play more minutes, occupying Kennedy's recent role of decoy forward in addition to covering for Naitanui in the ruck.

Jones in for a tall provides more run (something the team is desperately in short supply of) and gives the team a better structure up forward with the narrow pockets at Kardinia Park.

O'Neill has managed just 5 disposals over 4 second half quarters in his past two AFL games. That's pretty poor, especially so considering that he has been playing through the middle with ample opportunity to win possession.
Ainsworth has good WAFL form and is guaranteed to still be running around like an over-excited cattle dog in the last quarter.

Geelong are possibly the only team in the competition that the club may currently be capable of out-running, particularly if it [West Coast] goes in with a smaller selection.

The other key in out-running the opponent here is the narrowness of the ground. Narrow grounds congest the space for marking forwards, who often end up pushing deeper towards goal in an attempt to stretch the defence. This opens up space 40-50m from goal that is perfect for runners higher up the ground to get into and exploit.

The Cats always have so many goalkicking midfielders as a result of the shape of their home ground as much as their tactics. Given remit to drift forward, Kelly and Sheed particularly will have plenty of opportunity to impact the scoreboard and create headaches for the opposing defence.

As we are aware from the Subiaco days, over-running an opponent on a narrow ground when you have marking targets up forward provides all the ingredients for an old-fashioned flat-tracking demolition.

We have not had the chance to embarrass the Cats in their own backyard in a very long time. You have to go back to the previous century for the last time the club won by more than a goal at that venue.

No, Yeo, Shuey, Hurn or Kennedy... And yet it is Geelong who are looking the more scared, desperately trying to rush players back into their team that are far from 100%. Dangerfield requires surgery - yet they were just about to play him this week, as they are clutching at straws. They are out of form, struggling to contain run defensively and look tediously slow when in possession. Regardless of the players we have out, the Cats remain there for the taking.

Tag Selwood with Nelson. Put Waterman on Stewart and drag him to the goalsquare. Run Brander with Duncan. Use Ainsworth to clamp down on Smith if necessary. Place Redden to go defensively on Parfitt at stoppages and let the others go head-to-head with an attacking mindset.

They are going to get smashed in the ruck by the Naitanui-Vardy combination. They have no-one other than Stanley, who will be monstered, and they refuse to rotate Blicavs there as it will create mismatches in their defence. Ratugolea is just a single VFL match back from a broken leg, so don't expect to him soon and Cameron has done his hamstring twice this year already - the last thing he will be doing is rucking. It means Geelong will probably go with De Koning as the primary support for Stanley (a second-gamer against Naitanui) - and also means they could be about to select a team that is far too tall and is just asking to be run into the ground.


Play it smart, keep cohesion in the defence and bring the intent that we know this team is capable of, and this coming match could well end up being a red letter day in the history of the club.

If we smash Geelong, simmo had better eat a ******* sandwich in the coaches box