Comparing drafts against Eagles from 2010

[Cobbler]

Just for fun and in salute to the derby lead up I thought I'd compare the last 7 drafts between the Eagles and ourselves.

For the sake of keeping it simple I'll look at the players drafted in the year and give my opinion as to who won that years draft. I will weigh up where picks fell etc. Once I punch in a bunch of algorithms and we add up all the wins and losses from the past 7 drafts we'll clearly see who has won in a completely unbiased view. I will include rookie and pre-season drafts, but I'm highly likely to leave someone out along the lines.

2010
Eagles - Gaff, Darling, Lycett, Brennan, Wilson, Houlihan, Hamp, McGovern
Freo - Pitt, Michie, Mellington, Anthony, Roberts, Lower, Bucovaz, Ruffles.

A quick glance and it's not really even close. No one from that draft is still playing for Fremantle despite it only being 7 years ago. I will say that despite his medical issues Pitt showed more heart than Gaff and Darling have. McGovern is the clear (how'd we miss that one regret from this draft) BUT he didn't even get promoted until 2013.

Winner = Eagles

2011
Eagles - Wilson, Newman, McInnes, Hams
Freo - Sheridan, Crozier, Neale, Sutcliffe, Lower, Dawson, Spurr, Schloithe, Menegola, Jordan-King, Pearce

Neale is the cream that rises from this draft at pick 58. We turned over our list a fair bit at this point and many of these players would/are showing a bit. For the Eagles? Well they grabbed a bunch of spuds in what was the draft that ultimately cost them a flag in 2015.

Winner - Freo

2012
Eagles - Colledge, Carter, Hutchings, Dick
Freo - Simpson, Smith, Duffy, Pearce, Hannath, Crichton, Taberner, Howson

So much to write about the quality of these selections. I would call it a 0-0 draw and then a penalty shoot out would ensue where Freo would win 5-4.

Winner = Freo

2013
Eagles - Sheed, Karpany, Barass, Main,
Freo - Apeness, Pearce, Grey

This one may demand a recount. I want to say Freo... it should be Freo, BUT I have to keep my one eyed views out of it and Barass simply trumps our lot unfortunately. This of course may change as Alex Pearce has gun written all over him, but Barass and Sheed have more runs on the board so to speak and the Eagles take this one down.

Winner = Eagles

2014
Eagles - Duggan, Lamb, Nelson, Cavka, Waterman
Freo - Weller, Blakely, Langdon, Deluca, Hughes, Hurley

Duggan looks like he may have a bit about him, unfortunately doing his knee may have taken some shine off his early promise. That said Weller and Blakely simply own this battle. Langdon and Hughes add further weight. If this was a boxing match it would be a first round knockout.

Winner = Freo

2015
Eagles - Partington, Cole, Mutimer, Allen
Freo - Tucker, Balic, Collins, Yarran, Ubergang, Nyhuis

Honestly?

Winner = Freo

2016
Eagles - Venables, Rotham, Rioli, Waterman
Freo - Logue, Darcy, Cox, Ryan

Amazing that our 4 are getting games in their first year. Darcy has been a revelation, but Cox and Ryan have shown more then glimpses. Logue possibly underwhelming, but his enthusiasm and appetite can't be questioned. Obviously early days, but it's not even a contest.

Winner = Freo

Ok, so Freo win this little battle 5-2.

The players likely to line up this weekend are:
Eagles - Gaff, Darling, Lycett, McGovern, Hutchings, Sheed, Karpany, Barass, Duggan
Freo - Crozier, Neale, Spurr, Weller, Blakely, Hughes, Tucker, Nyhuis, Logue, Darcy, Cox, Ryan

 

[estibador]

This is the most creative Blakely >>>> Lamb post yet. Kudos.

 

[Cobbler]

What makes our future even rosier is that you could argue a case for the inclusion of - Langdon, Balic, Taberner, DeLuca, Collins and Sutcliffe just from the weekend or this year in general. I don't think a single one of those players if included this weekend would be a massive surprise.

Where as the other mob? Well they can't find a youngster to play. Maybe Mutimer?

 

[Cobbler]

To continue to talk about the future we have drafted in McCarthy, Kersten, Hill, Hamling, Bennell just off the top of my head and despite their flaws are in the right age bracket to at least provide depth and hopefully develop individually.

Eagles have also drafted ok with Yeo, Cripps, Jetta and Redden in terms of youth.

It all comes down to Bennell. He was number 2 in the country and if he simply gets back to playing he IMO instantly alters where we stand as a club.

 

[freo_leo29]

Whats the point of this thread

 

[M_rash]

Whats the point of this thread

When we lose by 10 goals* on Sunday, we can say proudly - we won the draft 5-2 though!!!


*10 goal loss depends on: Kennedy in, Hamling out, Suban stays in, Sutcliffe in, Tabs in

 

[rgauci]

Go back and include 2009 and 2008.

 

[Cobbler]

Whats the point of this thread

What's the point of 99% of posts?

Does it need a point?

It was written based on Nyhuis playing a game as a rookie selection. I then thought 'Gee, we've played a few youngsters'. So I myself looked over a couple of our latest drafts and who had got games. I then kept going back to see where we had holes, poor selections or bad luck. I then checked the Bulldogs as they had just won a premiership. I then checked the Eagles as they are the other WA side and much is said about their aging list.

So as stated in the actual post, I compared the 2 teams and went back to 2010 simply because it's a round number. I mean 2009 was Fyfe.

So the point was simply one of interest. One to further highlight that drafting is difficult and we've done ok, particularly the last couple of years which is when it counts in a rebuild.

May I ask.

What was the point of your reply?

I think my analysis and thread topic holds more weight then a cheeky one liner directed with no real purpose.

 

[Cobbler]

Go back and include 2009 and 2008.

2009 we got Fyfe which trumps everyone.

2008 is an absolute belter!
Eagles - Natanui, Shuey, Swift, Smith, Jones
Freo - Hill, Ballantyne, Suban, Clarke, Walters, Bucovaz, Ruffles, Hall

That is a reasonable contest, but you'd have to give the nod to Freo...just.

Hill and Shuey you could argue relatively equally.
Walters and Ballantyne would cover Natanui.
Suban is the icing!

 

[freo_leo29]

What's the point of 99% of posts?

Does it need a point?

It was written based on Nyhuis playing a game as a rookie selection. I then thought 'Gee, we've played a few youngsters'. So I myself looked over a couple of our latest drafts and who had got games. I then kept going back to see where we had holes, poor selections or bad luck. I then checked the Bulldogs as they had just won a premiership. I then checked the Eagles as they are the other WA side and much is said about their aging list.

So as stated in the actual post, I compared the 2 teams and went back to 2010 simply because it's a round number. I mean 2009 was Fyfe.

So the point was simply one of interest. One to further highlight that drafting is difficult and we've done ok, particularly the last couple of years which is when it counts in a rebuild.

May I ask.

What was the point of your reply?

I think my analysis and thread topic holds more weight then a cheeky one liner directed with no real purpose.

The point of my reply was to point out how its silly to compare to West Coast all the time.

Having said that I've realised its Derby week so I'll give it a pass for the banter

 

[Admiral Byng]

Whats the point of this thread

They picked Lamb ahead of Blakely...

 

[Cobbler]

The point of my reply was to point out how its silly to compare to West Coast all the time.

Having said that I've realised its Derby week so I'll give it a pass for the banter

Well it's why I personally looked at Bulldogs, but what would be the fun in doing that comparison? They just won a flag, plus their selections were higher then ours for a few years running.

I mean we'd be an ok club too if we had 7 Stephen Hills running around because we had 7 picks inside the top 3.

Pound for pound and with the selections we've had and what we've got out of blokes we're doing phenomenally well.

Obviously you want your top picks to be successful, but if you can turn pick 38s into Sean Darcy and 58 into Lachie Neale etc you have some chance to be successful down the track.

 

[Wally Walpamur]

2015 - You spelled God wrong
2008 - Suban is the cake, the icing and the cherry on top.

 

[Taylor]

Well it's why I personally looked at Bulldogs, but what would be the fun in doing that comparison? They just won a flag, plus their selections were higher then ours for a few years running.

I mean we'd be an ok club too if we had 7 Stephen Hills running around because we had 7 picks inside the top 3.

Pound for pound and with the selections we've had and what we've got out of blokes we're doing phenomenally well.

Obviously you want your top picks to be successful, but if you can turn pick 38s into Sean Darcy and 58 into Lachie Neale etc you have some chance to be successful down the track.

And the father son picks they had.

 

[FreoRicci]

Soooo..



Blakely >>> Lamb... right?

 

[Fat Nyfe]

Looking at all those kids playing for us from the 2014/15/16 drafts compared to the eagles, the question must be asked.

Why is Adam Simpson refusing to play the yoof?

 

[Eski3]

I still can't believe the Eagles chose not to select the WA under 18 captain, contested ball winning beast, All Australian midfielder, who played 14 games in the Swan Districts senior team as a 17 year old, in Connor Blakely

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

I still can't believe the Eagles chose not to select the WA under 18 captain, contested ball winning beast, All Australian midfielder, who played 14 games in the Swan Districts senior team as a 17 year old, in Connor Blakely

Who'd they pick instead?

 

[Eski3]

Who'd they pick instead?

Not entirely sure. I have found a draft profile of some scrub who went at around their pick though



AFTER a season that didn't quite reach the heights he had hoped for, Tom Lamb remains a difficult draft hopeful to assess.

After missing last year's NAB AFL Under-18 Championships through injury, Lamb played five games for Vic Country at this season's carnival.

He didn't manage to string together breakout performances but did end the championships well, when he was moved to half-back and offered some drive.

The qualifier on all of that is how often he does put it together. Lamb's inconsistency has been an issue for a couple of years, and another hard-to-read season made it no easier for recruiters to know what they're going to see each time he plays.

Technically, athletically and in terms of skills, there really isn't a concern about Lamb. It's all there. It's other stuff like his body language, discipline and consistency of effort that needs to lift. Lamb knows it, and is trying to find a way to do it.




Why draft the best when you can draft the rest??

 

[Belnakor]

Looking at all those kids playing for us from the 2014/15/16 drafts compared to the eagles, the question must be asked.

Why is Adam Simpson refusing to play the yoof?

2015 was an absolute wipe out draft for them, however it was one of the weakest drafts in recent memory.

 

[estibador]

Not entirely sure. I have found a draft profile of some scrub who went at around their pick though



AFTER a season that didn't quite reach the heights he had hoped for, Tom Lamb remains a difficult draft hopeful to assess.

After missing last year's NAB AFL Under-18 Championships through injury, Lamb played five games for Vic Country at this season's carnival.

He didn't manage to string together breakout performances but did end the championships well, when he was moved to half-back and offered some drive.

The qualifier on all of that is how often he does put it together. Lamb's inconsistency has been an issue for a couple of years, and another hard-to-read season made it no easier for recruiters to know what they're going to see each time he plays.

Technically, athletically and in terms of skills, there really isn't a concern about Lamb. It's all there. It's other stuff like his body language, discipline and consistency of effort that needs to lift. Lamb knows it, and is trying to find a way to do it.




Why draft the best when you can draft the rest??

Lol... even his draft profile makes him sound like a crab.

 

[Eski3]

Lol... even his draft profile makes him sound like a crab.

Compared to Blakely:

AT THE start of this year, Connor Blakely relocated from Bunbury to Perth and brought with him a desire to do everything possible to be drafted.

Blakely hasn't always been a big, bash-and-crash midfielder who barges through packs and wins the ball. He used to be a flanker, playing half-back and half-forward, but couldn't really find his niche.

He got it this year, and against senior company. Blakely played all season in the Swan Districts' senior WAFL team, and averaged 18 disposals in 14 games.

The experience has been good for him. He's played against AFL-listed opponents and outclassed them, and when they have got the better of him, he's learned from it.

That much was clear during the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships against players his own age, when Blakely was a standout. He averaged 21 disposals and seven clearances a game and was named an All-Australian.

With ball winning at a premium in the AFL, Blakely's ability to generate possessions out of clearances and get things going should appeal to a number of clubs.

More than half of Blakely's disposals this year were won in contested situations, a tick for his preparedness to put his head over the ball and get his hands dirty.

Blakely is also one of the better big-bodied midfielders available, and at his size (186cm, 81kg) is someone who can walk into a club and be expected to have an early impact.

His endurance is good and he runs all day, but the stoppages are where he has the biggest influence. He keeps his feet, thinks through situations with composure and then goes and does it again.

Blakely has done all that's been asked of him in 2014, and is ready for the next step. There are players who finish things and there are those who enjoy starting them, the ones who like putting teammates in space with a quick handball, the ones who don't need the flair to be effective. Blakely is that type of prospect.

 

[Wally Walpamur]

The cheer squad should put those draft write ups on each side of the banner this week

 

[Lach72]

It's ok.
They've still got Priddis

 

[electricfeel]

The cheer squad should put those draft write ups on each side of the banner this week

Can the banner this week be simply "LOL LAMB OVER BLAKELY"