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Essendon vow enough is enough
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Did our playing group make any updated vows ahead of this upcoming Geelong game? (Asking for a friend)
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Vowed to save themselves for the season proper. No point wasting effort and talent on a silly preseason game.
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Yesterday's match didn't exactly set much of a new defensive standard, but I guess they would normally concede 100+ against the Cats so a marginal gain for them I suppose.
What I forgot to mention about their defense in the last 20 years is that they've actually had plenty of AA defenders over the course of this time despite the over team defense being dog s**t.
Dustin Fletcher, Michael Hurley and even bloody Cale Hooker all had AA jackets even when they were missing finals and doping it up.
Jordan Ridley also got an AA squad nomination in 2020 despite their bottom 6 finish and bottom 4 defense.
The personnel has definitely come through on the defensive side, but the coaching structure and overall weekly composure has never improved. Once again, despite having 7 different coaches in 20 years.
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Good effort to get within 12 points down at the graveyard for Melbourne based sides.
Still tipping Essendon by 37 points in Rd1
Still tipping Essendon by 37 points in Rd1
Stability is/has been a huge issue.
One of the reasons i liked the 5 year deal to Scott was it ideally made it less likely gets sacked in year 2.
We need a coach and system to embed a stable defensive system across the ground
Otherwise a backline of AA defenders won't stop the goals.
Mostly stems from a fwd line and midfield that lack marking power and defensive pressure
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Ridley injury is a real blow
Highlights another issue
There's probably 4-5 players who could step into ridleys role. But none barely cover him.
Maybe its an opp for Cox to grab. Not holding my breathe
I can't see the Bombers doing much while the list still sucks.
Who are top 5?
Merrett, Redman, Ridley, Durham, Martin?
I have no idea.
Compare that with Collingwood top 10
N Daicos, Moore, Crisp, Quaynor, Pendlebury, J Daicos, Howe, Sidebottom, Mitchell, Maynard.
Who are top 5?
Merrett, Redman, Ridley, Durham, Martin?
I have no idea.
Compare that with Collingwood top 10
N Daicos, Moore, Crisp, Quaynor, Pendlebury, J Daicos, Howe, Sidebottom, Mitchell, Maynard.
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I was thinking about that last night. I can't see it
I would add Parish to our list, and Langford if he can back up his 50 goal / 20 goal assist season.
But it seems disingenuous comparing us to the Premiers. Nobody thinks we are on their level, and we are still rebuilding since we lost a number of important players around 2020 such as Daniher, Saad, Mckenna, Tippa, Hurley, Hooker etc. That's when we started to really go to the draft.
EDIT: add langford
Merrett, ridley, martin, parish and redman are top 5 for me
2 AA players and 3 that id deem squad worthy.
Which isnt too bad for a below middle of the road team vs the reigning premier. Also noting 4/10 from the pies likely wrap it up this year.
What we need is some recent drafting to pay off
Jones, bryan, perkins, cox, reid, hobbs, tsatas, caddy. All represent our top 40 picks since 2019.
By years end you'd want to see them all regular 22 players with defined spots in the team and playing consistently decent footy
Thats where our bounce will come from.
Can probably add duursma and caldwell as recruits from 2018 draft too.
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Fml, ive had a langford mancrush since day 1 too.
Good pickup
Not deliberately disengenous.
Just using the recent premier as the obvious "benchmark".
Just wondering who the top 5 are as it's not clear for outside observers.
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Line in The Sand Season?
Id say we have 6 who id call genuine guns
Then a bunch we're hoping on
And then role players for the large part.
Biggest problem is effort across the board for me. Great when the game is on our terms. Not so much the other way
For a lot of players, yes
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Some good points. Coaching structure and notably for too long a too attacking game plan was a factor. Also, across many of those years that last decade+ Hooker, Hurley and Ambrose were invariably battling recurring injuries together which robbed the backline of continuity for many years.
Essendon played well for 3:4. It took a few prime movers off at 3/4, moved Merrett out of the centre to look at other combinations of rucks / mids and the structures broke down. Cats got on top in contests and with Ridley also out, the last qtr went as it went.
Brad Scott would’ve been much more satisfied with the commitment and a more organised outfit until they tried a few things in the last.
If they remain injury free, they will gives finals a nudge, they have the talent to make them. Big risk is with lots of news players (trades) as well as several positional changes, there’s an obvious lack of connection and synergy on field. Scott noted this was going to be a really challenge to work through late last year and I think he’s right. The backline hasn’t played senior footy together, Martin, Durham new pivotal roles. Jones, Cox, Reid hardly played the last 24 months. It will take a while. 2025 should be a better year.
If Essendon turn up Sunday week, they should win reasonably comfortably. But who knows.
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You can still get a $1.10 with Sportsbet on the annual Essendon Line in the Sand speech occurring before Round 4.
For the last 20 years "line in the sand" has meant "just beat Hawthorn and nothing else matters".
Which is fine if playing us in a final, but that hasnt happened since... the 1980s ? Maybe ?
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The highest attendance between freo and bombers is a freo home game.
Bombers is a big club but they’ve definitely dropped off.
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I must say, it's only a praccy match, but saw some decent signs from the Bombers.
Precision kicking tore us up a bit in the first half from them, and they had a physical edge they haven't had in God knows how long.
Who knows if it actually eventuates into anything good, but I wouldn't be ripping into them yet. They look like they're on the right path.
Precision kicking tore us up a bit in the first half from them, and they had a physical edge they haven't had in God knows how long.
Who knows if it actually eventuates into anything good, but I wouldn't be ripping into them yet. They look like they're on the right path.
We were only too happy to help inspire the hawks out of their funk and onto some flags.
When's campbells match v lloydy. Should be entertainment
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