Club Focus Gold Coast - Picks 5, 27, 76

Should Gold Coast have priority picks in 2020?

  • Yes

    Votes: 8 22.2%
  • No

    Votes: 18 50.0%
  • Too late

    Votes: 10 27.8%

  • Total voters
    36

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kreglze

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If they all stick around I actually have optimism for the future with a much more professional set up that we had when we started in 2011.
 

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Millsie69

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Totally agree, if we can manage it, we will have the makings of a good team.
Absolutely. I still feel that, instead of a couple of the draft concessions, the Suns should have been granted an increase in their footy department spending to make the club a more attractive proposition for potential recruits/draftees. Hire some more development coaches.
 

kreglze

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Absolutely. I still feel that, instead of a couple of the draft concessions, the Suns should have been granted an increase in their footy department spending to make the club a more attractive proposition for potential recruits/draftees. Hire some more development coaches.
Yeah I would have preferred that as well, and from all accounts in our submission we put that to the AFL, however, they seem to want to keep the salary cap and spending caps uniform, to keep the 'integrity' of the competition. Instead they are happy to compromise the draft for 3 years, don't get their thinking.
 

scratchy09

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If I was the Gold Coast list manager, I wouldn't trade these picks for anything. The deal would need to be so overs to even consider parting with picks 1 or 2 as by getting rid of one of the two, you open the door for the other of Rowell or Anderson to leave down the line. These two picks aren't for sale. Non negotiable.
 

the Ziebull

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So the over the top concessions have essentially given them Flanders and Sharp
Plus academy players for free as rookies instead of picks in the draft

Let’s say they deserved the pick 1/2
 

kreglze

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Can't complain, clearly we identified Sharp as a target that filled a massive need of ours and rated him as high as 11 next year, hell, Dew flew all the way to WA to present him with his jumper when he got picked. Would rather have him now, than 11 next year in a heavily compromised draft which may push out 11 to 15+, in what some say is a weaker draft than this year (I don't know but people seem to be commenting on it). We also get a year of development into Sharp as well. Looks odd and we definitely paid overs to get our man, but we got him in.
 

Kreuuuzeurns

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Can't complain, clearly we identified Sharp as a target that filled a massive need of ours and rated him as high as 11 next year, hell, Dew flew all the way to WA to present him with his jumper when he got picked. Would rather have him now, than 11 next year in a heavily compromised draft which may push out 11 to 15+, in what some say is a weaker draft than this year (I don't know but people seem to be commenting on it). We also get a year of development into Sharp as well. Looks odd and we definitely paid overs to get our man, but we got him in.
Our future 2nd and 3rd would’ve been a reasonable trade for 27.
 

kreglze

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Our future 2nd and 3rd would’ve been a reasonable trade for 27.
I don't think they would have done that to be honest. A lot of trades this year seemed to HEAVILY value the current draft over next years. Who knows I suppose, I'll back in our recruiters, won't know for a few years if it was worth it or not.
 

Foucault1989

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I don't think they would have done that to be honest. A lot of trades this year seemed to HEAVILY value the current draft over next years. Who knows I suppose, I'll back in our recruiters, won't know for a few years if it was worth it or not.
Seriously. Pick 11 for 27. Just god awful trading. Awful.
 

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kreglze

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Seriously. Pick 11 for 27. Just god awful trading. Awful.
I think it is questionable to compare one pick from the 2019 draft to a pick in the 2020 draft, all things are not equal and there are many variables across years.

I'll just leave this here as well. It may not appease you but gives some insight.

"We really rated Jeremy (Sharp). Going into last night (Wednesday) we would have selected him at 15, but we did that trade to come down and select Sam Flanders. Jeremy got through the first round and we did a bit of work on where he might end up. (He) rounded out the midfield mix. He's an elite outside runner, he's got a booming kick."
 

Foucault1989

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I agree, but the same was said for the stocker deal.

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Except we also got a future first which turned out to be a 6 pick downgrade. You didn't. You just gave up pick 11....do you know how insane that is? You could have traded Martin for a future 2nd and 3rd. Bundled them up with another 3rd for sharp and kept pick 11 for the elite end of the draft. Your club is atrocious. It's so funny watching big boi Cochrane flap his mouth. I want that turd to front up in 10 minutes when Martin is a free Carlton player.
 

Foucault1989

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I think it is questionable to compare one pick from the 2019 draft to a pick in the 2020 draft, all things are not equal and there are many variables across years.

I'll just leave this here as well. It may not appease you but gives some insight.

"We really rated Jeremy (Sharp). Going into last night (Wednesday) we would have selected him at 15, but we did that trade to come down and select Sam Flanders. Jeremy got through the first round and we did a bit of work on where he might end up. (He) rounded out the midfield mix. He's an elite outside runner, he's got a booming kick."
Every club says that...even mine. You used a future pick 11 for a pick 27. It has nothing to do with that player. You could have got that pick 27 from Geelong without selling one of your precious afl handouts. So funny. Your club is a living meme
 

kreglze

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Every club says that...even mine. You used a future pick 11 for a pick 27. It has nothing to do with that player. You could have got that pick 27 from Geelong without selling one of your precious afl handouts. So funny. Your club is a living meme
How do you know Geelong would have done that trade though?

Anyway, your clearly just frothing at the mouth to lay into GC at any point so there is no point going on, enjoy Martin.
 

Happy Idiot

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Except we also got a future first which turned out to be a 6 pick downgrade. You didn't. You just gave up pick 11....do you know how insane that is? You could have traded Martin for a future 2nd and 3rd. Bundled them up with another 3rd for sharp and kept pick 11 for the elite end of the draft. Your club is atrocious. It's so funny watching big boi Cochrane flap his mouth. I want that turd to front up in 10 minutes when Martin is a free Carlton player.
Martin is a Carlton player, for sure, but only one club has five wooden spoons over the most recent twenty-year period. Let's see if the Suns can manage to meet that standard set by your amazing club!
 

Happy Idiot

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Such a good deflection. Amazing.
No, do you know what a deflection is?

I acknowledged Martin is a Carlton player, and responded to your claim the Suns are atrocious by pointing out only one club has five spoons over the last twenty seasons. Brush up if you'd like to be more valuable to conversation going forward.
 

Foucault1989

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No, do you know what a deflection is?

I acknowledged Martin is a Carlton player, and responded to your claim the Suns are atrocious by pointing out only one club has five spoons over the last twenty seasons. Brush up if you'd like to be more valuable to conversation going forward.
What does Carlton's history have anything to do with the Martin situation or Gold Coast drafting and trading at the conclusion of the 2019 season? It doesn't. You brought it up to deflect the conversation away from your clubs inadequacies. This isn't a "History of the Carlton Football Club over the past 20 years". No. It's a Gold Coast off season thread
 

Happy Idiot

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What does Carlton's history have anything to do with the Martin situation or Gold Coast drafting and trading at the conclusion of the 2019 season?... You brought it up to deflect the conversation away from your clubs inadequacies.
It establishes a good standard for 'atrocious', which you claimed.

No thanks necessary, I'm happy to help — you'll be better for it in the future and your input to any discussion will be much more valuable in the future.
 

David C

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The last 2 drafts have been exceptional for Gold Coast. All of last years crew have already signed on and the top 2 picks this year look very committed. Only question mark is on Flanders but hopefully he will settle in ok. There is going to be a lot of competition for spots in the best 22. Miles shouldn't be getting a game by the end of 2020. Next year is probably a year too early but hey they said that about Brisbane.
 

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