Have Geelong become too powerful?

[Footy Smarts]

I think thre problem with this deal was that (and someone correct me on the actual numbers here) Bowes still had two-years to run on his contract that was backloaded, the total salary amount was really high.

After acquiring Bowes, the Cats were then able to restructure the deal and pay him the same money but over four-years, not two so they did not have to suffer any pain or inconvenience.

Do you really think Jack Bowes would agree to play for free for 2 years? There were plenty of clubs willing to pay out his contract to get the draft pick.

Geelong were the only one running to add 2 years on solid money. He was owed something like $1.8m over 2 and Geelong's paying him $2.6m over 4.

 

[joe444]

We've become so powerful that the Doggies board have become obsessed with reading our board so they can report "arrogant" comments (e.g. tipping the winner, margin and NS) to the Brisbane board.

That's some fricking power right there.

 

[DanA]

Are Geelong even that far in the black for trades?

Losing Ablett Jnr and Tim Kelly

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Tim Kelly

Age

31

Ht

184cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.6

5star

K

13.5

5star

HB

10.1

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

4.0

5star

CL

4.9

5star

D

19.9

5star

K

12.3

5star

HB

7.6

4star

M

3.1

3star

T

4.7

5star

CL

3.6

4star

D

21.6

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

11.2

5star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.8

5star

CL

3.8

5star

and gaining Dangerfield and Cameron…it’s pretty even.

All the rest are pretty run of the mill trades that could be done by any club.

 

[Whats a Battle]

Are Geelong even that far in the black for trades?

Losing Ablett Jnr and Tim Kelly and gaining Dangerfield and Cameron…it’s pretty even.

All the rest are pretty run of the mill trades that could be done by any club.

I agree with that on face value. Only issue is they got great compo for Ablett Jnr whereas we got pick 19 for Buddy.

 

[katana]

I agree with that on face value. Only issue is they got great compo for Ablett Jnr whereas we got pick 19 for Buddy.

they got pick 15 or something wasn't it?

 

[PhatBoy]

Geelong fans 101.

"Danger, Cameron, Smith, Ablett Jnr all needed to come home, those clubs owed
it to them to help them., its outrageous if they dont."

One player wants to go home to be with his wife and kids, "Lol **** him, Geelong owe him nothing."

Literally no fan has said this

 

[DanA]

I agree with that on face value. Only issue is they got great compo for Ablett Jnr whereas we got pick 19 for Buddy.

The Buddy compensation is unfortunate but could put that up against any trade.

Ie: Cameron. You got pick 19 for Buddy, GWS got 13, 15 & 30.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Geelong fans 101.

"Danger, Cameron, Smith, Ablett Jnr all needed to come home, those clubs owed
it to them to help them., its outrageous if they dont."

One player wants to go home to be with his wife and kids, "Lol **** him, Geelong owe him nothing."

If this is related to Kelly then it's an unfair slur.

He was interviewed extensively by multiple clubs pre-draft and having been overlooked multiple times ensured he was happy to play anywhere.

One year in wants out. Any club giving up a 20s pick to draft him 12 months earlier would hold out for a better deal, which they did.

And just like we benefited from the aforementioned wanting a move out of contract we lost Kelly the same way so all's fair in love and war in that regard.

 

[joe444]

Players recruited from other clubs in Geelong's team last week: 5
Hawthorn: 6 (not including Gunston)
Collingwood: 10
Brisbane: 6

Conclusion, apparently: Geelong poach players and can't develop their own.

 

[Aristotle Pickett the3rd]

We've become so powerful that the Doggies board have become obsessed with reading our board so they can report "arrogant" comments (e.g. tipping the winner, margin and NS) to the Brisbane board.

That's some fricking power right there.

I don't blame them because you shafted them on the Bailey Smith trade by refusing to negotiate.

 

[Aristotle Pickett the3rd]

Players recruited from other clubs in Geelong's team last week: 5
Hawthorn: 6 (not including Gunston)
Collingwood: 10
Brisbane: 6

Conclusion, apparently: Geelong poach players and can't develop their own.

It's 7 for Geelong

 

[PhatBoy]

It's 7 for Geelong

It’s 6 actually, and one of them was delisted and didn’t come from another club (Stengle). He had been playing a state league for a year.

The other 5 were Cameron, Smith, Dangerfield, Bowes and Martin.

 

[PhatBoy]

I don't blame them because you shafted them on the Bailey Smith trade by refusing to negotiate.

You shafted the AFL world by getting a priority pick to get Alex Rance. Guess who was next in line in that year’s draft?

That’s right. The Bulldogs.

 

[joe444]

The other 5 were Cameron, Smith, Dangerfield, Bowes and Martin.

Can't possibly count Stengle. I'm talking about the myth of us grabbing players from other teams.

Stengle was thrown a lifeline by us from the SANFL, not another AFL team.

It was five players, and 18 who owe their careers to being spotted and brought in by us.

And as for "poaching" we've grabbed three big names in 10 years. Way fewer than just about every other team, if not every.

 

[PhatBoy]

You can add Jhye Clarke because that was Gold Coast's pick.
Cameron, Dangerfield and Smith also refused to negotiate with other clubs for better deals.

So Alex Rance was a Bulldog. Gotcha.

 

[STPer18]

You can add Jhye Clarke because that was Gold Coast's pick.
Cameron, Dangerfield and Smith also refused to negotiate with other clubs for better deals.

Jhye Clark, drafted to Geelong at pick 8 from the Geelong Falcons, never played at any other club apart from Geelong, is a 'player from another club'. One of your best ones ever.

 

[PhatBoy]

Jhye Clark, drafted to Geelong at pick 8 from the Geelong Falcons, never played at any other club apart from Geelong, is a 'player from another club'. One of your best ones ever.

Can you imagine what’s going to be going on in his head if we win tomorrow

 

[joe444]

You can add Jhye Clarke because that was Gold Coast's pick.
Cameron, Dangerfield and Smith also refused to negotiate with other clubs for better deals.

Ohhh Aristotlemaths..

Add Jhye Clark but we will now also subtract all other clubs' players recruited from the Geelong Falcons and St Joey's.

Bitachass league owes us 31 players.

 

[FreddyTwoShoes]

I don't blame them because you shafted them on the Bailey Smith trade by refusing to negotiate.

If Geelong didn’t negotiate how did the deal get done?

I think what you really meant is “Geelong set the price they were willing to pay. Bulldogs didn’t have a strong bargaining position having let his contract run to term so eventually agreed to it. The deal was done”.

You’re really bitter about this for some reason.
Hope you’re able to find some inner peace soon.

 

[STPer18]

More players from the Rookie draft and Cat B (8) than trade (5) and DELISTED free agents (2) combined...

Current Geelong should be battlers in the GFL with this kind of build.

 

[The Casey Cat]

Not because of me, because of the Integrity of the AFL.

Because of your view of the integrity of the AFL. Your views are embarrassing nonsense. On everything.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

You can add Jhye Clarke

You idiot.

 

[Mr Meow]

Jhye Clark, drafted to Geelong at pick 8 from the Geelong Falcons, never played at any other club apart from Geelong, is a 'player from another club'. One of your best ones ever.

How is he getting even more desperate and sad?

 

[Crankyhawk]

Agreed.

They should probably start by stopping the Hawks from raiding the competition. They had 10 recruits on Friday and none of those were off footy's discard pile (delisted free agents or salary dump)

Barrass, Battle, Impey, Amon, Scrimshaw, Chol, D'Ambrosio, Meek, Ginnivan and Gunston is quite the group pillaged from other clubs!

Maybe the AFL can bring Hawthorn more in line with Geelong who only had 6 recruits from other clubs on Friday with 3 of those thrown a lifeline as delisted free agents or salary dump trades.

D’ambrosio was effectively undervalued/ unwanted. Chol also, and Gunston was a donation to lions from us initially.

 

[Duckimus Prime]

D’ambrosio was effectively undervalued/ unwanted. Chol also, and Gunston was a donation to lions from us initially.

Gunston was pillaged from the Adelaide Crows.

Was awarded the Best Young Player, until the corporation threw a tanty over his demands for a trade.