Vic How would you rate Daniel Andrews' performance as Victorian Premier? - Part 6

[Gralin]

Actually, I agree with you which is saying something. In its current form the Bill is a disaster (which begs the question why the government rammed it through the Lower House), but it can be fixed.

I think the amendments that have been announced so far go a long way to making it a good bill

nothing will every be perfect or please everyone, its just a question of whether they can get something decent passed

 

[radiojake]

Perhaps his skin colour?

you're taking the piss, right?

also does that mean you did know who was filming, but you initially claimed you had no idea?

 

[FredLeDeux]

you're taking the piss, right?

also does that mean you did know who was filming, but you initially claimed you had no idea?

Yes, he knows perfectly well who and what Rukshan is, he's actually boosted him on here previously as a (joke) "independent journalist"

 

[Saint Shags]

Very astute of you kalex6251 to pick this up - the perfect case why the new Pandemic Bill in Victoria should never be passed

Hasn't the argument been though, that an unelected official shouldn't have that responsibility? That any health order that includes a lockdown should be made by the Health Minister or the Premier.

 

[Saint Shags]

Yes, he knows perfectly well who and what Rukshan is, he's actually boosted him on here previously as a (joke) "independent journalist"

Wedding Videographer is the reality

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Wedding Videographer is the reality

Yep. He's also a Maga nutter who called for BLM protesters to be arrested in Melbourne.

 

[BruceFromBalnarring]

you're taking the piss, right?

also does that mean you did know who was filming, but you initially claimed you had no idea?

I knew who the main character was, I just wasn’t on to who was filming. Should have been obvious but I was juggling a few balls over the weekend.

I have no idea who the mob were that were protesting. I am making a broader point against labelling, without reasonable justification, the motivations of various actors caught on film in these situations.

You can bet London to a brick that if a preferred indigenous or Muslim “streamer” was holding the camera, and the protestors were conservatives, they’d be labelled “racist thugs”.

 

[Gralin]

I knew who the main character was, I just wasn’t on to who was filming. Should have been obvious but I was juggling a few balls over the weekend.

I have no idea who the mob were that were protesting. I am making a broader point against labelling, without reasonable justification, the motivations of various actors caught on film in these situations.

You can bet London to a brick that if a preferred indigenous or Muslim “streamer” was holding the camera, and the protestors were conservatives, they’d be labelled “racist thugs”.

I mean depends who the protestors were
Like if it was Cottrell or Erikson or one of their mates that label would be accurate

If it was some random protestor blocking MSM because they don't trust them then you'd not be able to say for sure would you

There's plenty of footage of MSM journo's at the anti lockdown rallies getting harrased including POC Journo's if you want to go look at make your own calls on whether it was racist or just distrust of the media though

 

[Gralin]

Avi and Rukshan did a complete 180 on how they talk about protests during lockdowns and cops violence towards protestors from last winter to this one

 

[BruceFromBalnarring]

I mean depends who the protestors were
Like if it was Cottrell or Erikson or one of their mates that label would be accurate

If it was some random protestor blocking MSM because they don't trust them then you'd not be able to say for sure would you

There's plenty of footage of MSM journo's at the anti lockdown rallies getting harrased including POC Journo's if you want to go look at make your own calls on whether it was racist or just distrust of the media though

Either join the debate in good faith or FRO. Decide which it is, and you'll get a response in good faith or just smart arse replies.

To date in this forum, you've done little but gaslight. Are you now seeking to be a genuine participant?

Make a choice.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Either join the debate in good faith or FRO. Decide which it is, and you'll get a response in good faith or just smart arse replies.

To date in this forum, you've done little but gaslight. Are you now seeking to be a genuine participant?

Make a choice.

Are you pretending to be a moderator again Bruce?

 

[Gralin]

Either join the debate in good faith or FRO. Decide which it is, and you'll get a response in good faith or just smart arse replies.

To date in this forum, you've done little but gaslight. Are you now seeking to be a genuine participant?

Make a choice.

You're all over the shop aren't you

You want to talk about gaslighting and not being genuine like its something that is just happening to you

 

[hawkman]

Avi and Rukshan did a complete 180 on how they talk about protests during lockdowns and cops violence towards protestors from last winter to this one

That is human nature though, BLM in a pandemic good, protesting against restrictions in a pandemic bad.

 

[Gralin]

That is human nature though, BLM in a pandemic good, protesting against restrictions in a pandemic bad.

I have less issue with the cooked units protesting currently than I do with the grifters egging them on and exploiting their fear

there are a lot of angry scared disenfranchised people broken by the last couple of years and the fact that the people taking advantage of this are people like Craig Kelly is fully ****ed

 

[BruceFromBalnarring]

You're all over the shop aren't you

You want to talk about gaslighting and not being genuine like its something that is just happening to you

No. You're doing it to a lot of people.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Bruce is clearly trolling. I stand with Gralin.

 

[BruceFromBalnarring]

Are you pretending to be a moderator again Bruce?

That IVO been served yet?

 

[Ghost Patrol]

That IVO been served yet?

Did you call the twitter search police?

Not sure if they would take GeorgeBunchOfNumbers seriously tbh.

 

[Gralin]

Bruce is clearly trolling. I stand with Gralin.

are you sure you're not PR Guy?

 

[Gralin]

No. You're doing it to a lot of people.

lot of right wing victims around I guess hey

 

[BruceFromBalnarring]

lot of right wing victims around I guess hey

You know you could use your super(moderator) powers for good rather than evil?

Tell me something, and I've asked this of a number of prominent progressives on this forum but never get an answer.

What's the end game here? What do you actually want?

 

[Gralin]

You know you could use your super(moderator) powers for good rather than evil?

Tell me something, and I've asked this of a number of prominent progressives on this forum but never get an answer.

What's the end game here? What do you actually want?

Me personally?
Death of capitalism and the prison industrial complex
Land back to the traditional owners and rent paid, end of the colony and Sovereignty on Indigenous terms recognized

 

[Evolved1]

Avi and Rukshan did a complete 180 on how they talk about protests during lockdowns and cops violence towards protestors from last winter to this one

It seems to be a common stance with both sides of the political divide to make 180's depending on the cause being promoted.

 

[Pessimistic]

They keep trying to put Morrison and the protesters together but fact is most of them hate Morrison and the Federal Government as well!

even though some are wearing his election slogan on t shirts?

 

[Gralin]

It seems to be a common stance with both sides of the political divide to make 180's depending on the cause being promoted.

its not uncommon but its also not always the same

you can be against someones protest but for their right to protest
you can think they are idiots but not be cheering on the cops

there are people on both sides capable of that but the content grifters aren't the ones because its not what sells