Is Todd Marshall a once in a generation key forward?

[ClintEastwood]

Those misses tonight were epic.

 

[Coobk001]

Has an amazing kick.

Unfortunately is incredibly mentally weak. Had an amazing stint of goal kicking last year where it looked like it had clicked. By the end of that year he started declining in his set shots and this year his kicking has continued its decline.

It's not technical, it's not skill, it's mental.

Good coaches build their players up. Hinkley brings them down.

Tonight he kicks the boundary line wrong foot snap where there is no pressure, but misses several other easily kickable goals.

 

[carnthemaggies]

Maybe his role is a third forward - just hasn't got the build and mental approach to be key position. Plus his head knocks havent helped.

 

[Sunshine81]

Should have had 5 goals to his name and we'd be talking about how he played a solid game.

 

[Burningleviathan]

He has been spraying the for a while now. The GWS game comes to mind. Some absolute stinkers then and tonight.

 

[JUSTWORK]

Should have had 5 goals to his name and we'd be talking about how he played a solid game.

"Should have" means zero.
He failed when we needed some leadership from someone who should be in his absolute prime, reality his he has always been soft and has hit his peak as a footballer. He will never be the player many hoped he would have been.

 

[Honeyboy Wilson]

The 2016 draft was widely considered a good draft but very weak for key forwards, with only three worth dick... Todd Marshall

4

Todd Marshall

Age

25

Ht

198cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.0

2star

K

6.4

3star

HB

2.5

2star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.5

4star

G

1.1

4star

D

8.9

2star

K

7.1

3star

HB

1.8

1star

M

3.8

4star

T

3.0

4star

G

1.1

5star

D

9.6

3star

K

5.6

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.6

5star

, Josh Battle

26

Josh Battle

Age

25

Ht

193cm

Wt

93kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.9

3star

K

9.0

3star

HB

3.9

3star

M

5.0

5star

T

2.4

4star

MG

196.8

3star

D

11.0

3star

K

7.3

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.8

3star

MG

142.8

3star

D

10.8

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

175.6

3star

and Pat Kerr

Pat Kerr

Age

25

Ht

197cm

Wt

97kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.3

2star

K

7.0

3star

HB

2.3

2star

M

4.3

4star

T

0.8

3star

G

0.5

3star

No current season stats available

D

9.3

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

2.3

3star

M

4.3

4star

T

0.8

3star

G

0.5

3star

.

Josh Battle

26

Josh Battle

Age

25

Ht

193cm

Wt

93kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.9

3star

K

9.0

3star

HB

3.9

3star

M

5.0

5star

T

2.4

4star

MG

196.8

3star

D

11.0

3star

K

7.3

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.8

3star

MG

142.8

3star

D

10.8

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

175.6

3star

is now a defender and Pat Kerr

Pat Kerr

Age

25

Ht

197cm

Wt

97kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.3

2star

K

7.0

3star

HB

2.3

2star

M

4.3

4star

T

0.8

3star

G

0.5

3star

No current season stats available

D

9.3

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

2.3

3star

M

4.3

4star

T

0.8

3star

G

0.5

3star

is long gone from the AFL. Todd seems to be tracking alright from that perspective as a key forward.

Except Nick Larkey

20

Nick Larkey

Age

25

Ht

198cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.5

2star

K

4.6

2star

HB

3.9

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

1.5

3star

G

1.4

5star

D

7.0

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

3.0

2star

M

2.0

2star

T

1.0

2star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.8

3star

K

4.2

2star

HB

4.6

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

1.4

4star

G

0.8

4star

was drafted after those three at pick 73 and is a genuine star.

Ken. Cannot. Develop. Key. Forwards.

It has to be the gameplan. I can't think of any other reason that our key forwards are so inconsistent and never seem to absolutely dominate. Our best key forwards since Ken has been here have been traded in. So at least they had a taste of somewhere else.

I hope Todd fixes the mental side, but I can't see him being more than a handy second forward, when he was the highest rated key forward of his draft.

And we picked him ahead of diehard Port fan Tim English. Not that we need a ruck or anything.

 

[Powerage]

I hope Todd fixes the mental side, but I can't see him being more than a handy second forward, when he was the highest rated key forward of his draft.

And we picked him ahead of diehard Port fan Tim English. Not that we need a ruck or anything.

Tim English? As in WA born, South Fremantle product Tim English?

I understand Todd is carrying a hip injury but the only two ways to explain some of those misses tonight are if his right leg/hip is in excruciating pain, or he couldn't feel it at all due to the painkiller he was injected with. They were shocking. I don't know how much of it was mental and how much was physical but it was deflating to watch.

 

[Honeyboy Wilson]

Tim English? As in WA born, South Fremantle product Tim English?

I understand Todd is carrying a hip injury but the only two ways to explain some of those misses tonight are if his right leg/hip is in excruciating pain, or he couldn't feel it at all due to the painkiller he was injected with. They were shocking. I don't know how much of it was mental and how much was physical but it was deflating to watch.

Yep, grew up supporting Port.

 

[raptalia]

I am hoping that Mitch Georgiades

19

Mitch Georgiades

Age

22

Ht

192cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.0

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

4star

G

2.0

5star

D

11.0

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

3.0

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

3star

G

2.0

5star

D

11.0

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

4star

G

2.0

5star

can overcome his kicking yips and take some heat off Todd up forward. I agree that Todd is not really built as a KPF but at 198cm he does have height on his side. It is a pity Todd can put on 10kg of muscle because at 198cm and 102 kg he might be a completely different player.

 

[Crocodile Dumbdee]

The answer is no, close thread.

 

[Schulzenfest]

Todd Marshall

4

Todd Marshall

Age

25

Ht

198cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.0

2star

K

6.4

3star

HB

2.5

2star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.5

4star

G

1.1

4star

D

8.9

2star

K

7.1

3star

HB

1.8

1star

M

3.8

4star

T

3.0

4star

G

1.1

5star

D

9.6

3star

K

5.6

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.6

5star

is a confidence player. He would be a star under Jack Cahill. Not so much under Ken 'aw gee finals are a bit scary I'm really nervous' Hinkley.

 

[PowerBaz]

Todd Marshall is a confidence player. He would be a star under Jack Cahill. Not so much under Ken 'aw gee finals are a bit scary I'm really nervous' Hinkley.

That scary comment - was he trying to be all genuine or something? Or does he just spread the fear… doesn’t seem like an appropriate thing to say does it, not in a competitive sport.

 

[TazD]

That scary comment - was he trying to be all genuine or something? Or does he just spread the fear… doesn’t seem like an appropriate thing to say does it, not in a competitive sport.

Ken doesn't put in forethought for this kind of stuff.

 

[just_kick_it]

No. The second coming of John Butcher

John Butcher

Age

32

Ht

197cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.7

2star

K

5.1

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

1.6

4star

G

1.3

5star

No current season stats available

D

7.8

2star

K

4.8

2star

HB

3.0

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.4

4star

G

2.6

5star

...maybe

Put him on the trade table

 

[240volt]

No. The second coming of John Butcher...maybe

Put him on the trade table

I wanted him traded a couple of years ago and especially after that West Coast final when McGovern ran off him all day and was best on ground.
He did improve last year and his kicking was pretty good, as it was at the beginning of this year.
I believe he’s injured right now and is playing as there isn’t any other options with our lack of tall forwards.
Problem with Todd he’s just not hard enough at it and that’s a worry long term.

 

[PAFC66]

I hate saying this s**t but the kids mentally fragile, always has been.

 

[Peninsula Boy]

I'm going to cut Marshall a break as he is supposedly getting shots in his hips.

But I don't feel good about it.

 

[all seeing eye]

He's clearly carrying something, those misses were almost complete missed kicks of the boot. If he was just missing then I would say its mental but it looks structural ie hip / groin. Is a generational key forward no, but the premise was always silly, however in a structured forward line of Lord, Georgiardis and Finalyson hes a pretty handy cog.

 

[Launchpad McQuack]

Likely a combination of physical/injury and mental. You don't lose your action overnight. Our coaching panel has never been able to address kicking problems, time for them to suck it up and get a specialist in for our forwards. I'm sure Daddy will know better though.