Traded Jake Carlisle [traded w/ #23 and #44 for #5, #24 and Craig Bird]

[HODGEYROAD]

If saints are so adamant that pick 5 isn't on the table. Why don't they trade next years first for Nth Melbourne's first in this years draft? saints are likely to improve next year so I don't think you'd be sacrificing anything inside the top 6-7.

Then trade 15 and an upgraded pick (maybe 2nd or 3rd round) for Carlisle

Saints will still finish in the bottom 6 or 7 in 2016 most likely, name the teams they are likely to be better than in 2016 ?

 

[Yoda_]

My head hurts

 

[Brenno]

So who does Carlisle play for now?

 

[Magpie Monopoly]

It's a good debate.. Based on the facts of your decisions there's a 33% chance of St.Kilda success in the draft. Pick 5 for Carlisle is not overs.

The chance of landing a Franklin or Pendlebury or even Boak makes the punt worthit i think.

At then end of the day each years draft is mutually exclusive. The 2005 draft was pretty hard to miss on, this one should be alot tougher

 

[The 747]

If this guy rejected the Blues based on cash, it is hard to see the Hawks offering him more than that.

 

[Bulldog1954]

I would take 4 out of the last 15 drafts ahead of Carlisle at this stage.

Pendlebury
Franklin
Hurley
Boak

That's it.

I think you would find if Stringer was up for trade we would be getting offers a hell of a lot higher then what Essendon are getting for Carlisle.

 

[HBF]

If this guy rejected the Blues based on cash, it is hard to see the Hawks offering him more than that.

I believe we were only offering 3 years with an option for a 4th. Jake wanted 5 years.

 

[tige19]

I think you would find if Stringer was up for trade we would be getting offers a hell of a lot higher then what Essendon are getting for Carlisle.

Worth more than pick 5? You're kidding yourself champ

 

[Ricmel]

If saints are so adamant that pick 5 isn't on the table. Why don't they trade next years first for Nth Melbourne's first in this years draft? saints are likely to improve next year so I don't think you'd be sacrificing anything inside the top 6-7.

Then trade 15 and an upgraded pick (maybe 2nd or 3rd round) for Carlisle

I think more likely to trade 5 this year than next year. 2016 draft is expected to be a cracker by most reports.

 

[bomberstomake8]

If this guy rejected the Blues based on cash, it is hard to see the Hawks offering him more than that.

There is a bit of a difference between playing at hawthorn and playing at the blues over the next 3 years though

 

[Ricmel]

Saints apparently shopping around for a sweetener to add to pick 5

If I was Saints, I would be talking to Hawthorn about Jed Anderson. Pick 5 to Hawks for Anderson and Hawks first round then Hawks trade 5 on to Bombers if the want.

 

[The 747]

There is a bit of a difference between playing at hawthorn and playing at the blues over the next 3 years though

Sure but what about the difference between St Kilda and Carlton?

 

[roos_tt29]

Carlisle obviously thinks he's worth pick 5 and hence thinks he's better than he is. #deadsetflog
Saints should move on, get Freeman and go to the draft.

 

[bomberstomake8]

Sure but what about the difference between St Kilda and Carlton?

I don't know but I would assume the saints are offering a stronger contract as the main reason but I also see the saints probably 3 years ahead of Carlton in their rebuild.

 

[dipper86]

Worth more than pick 5? You're kidding yourself champ

Do you seriously think that Stringer isn't worth more than Pick 5 ? surely you jest!

 

[bomberstomake8]

Carlisle obviously thinks he's worth pick 5 and hence thinks he's better than he is. #deadsetflog
Saints should move on, get Freeman and go to the draft.

Have the saints actually offered anything though? I'm yet to hear a confirmed offer. I don't think we can blame Carlisle for that

 

[The 747]

I don't know but I would assume the saints are offering a stronger contract as the main reason but I also see the saints probably 3 years ahead of Carlton in their rebuild.

Yeah he wanted to go to the Blues or the Saints, you are kidding if you think he cares about where they are in the rebuild.

 

[HairyO]

Nice win for Essendon. All it takes is more than 1 club showing interest.

 

[bomberstomake8]

Yeah he wanted to go to the Blues or the Saints, you are kidding if you think he cares about where they are in the rebuild.

I don't know, money is the big play here but where they are at in their rebuild would be a factor for me

 

[roos_tt29]

Have the saints actually offered anything though? I'm yet to hear a confirmed offer. I don't think we can blame Carlisle for that

I'm going on what 1) what Essendon wants/wanted and 2) what Carlisle said he wanted the Dons to get (both pick 5). I'm sorry Jake, but you're not worth that.

Even if he "COULD'VE BEEN" and All Australian (N. Brown, 2015 lol)...for someone who only finished top 6 in his club's B&F once (for that year)...just no.

 

[Smyth94]

Bidding war was always going to happen - gun KPPs entering their prime don't normally just fall into the market. This is how the trade system SHOULD work - the seller has multiple options to entertain, and can sell to the highest bidder.

Scrap the "player nominates one destination club" BS and you won't get the rubbish shenanigans that St K have tried so far.

They should be laughed out of the trade room really.

 

[The 747]

I don't know, money is the big play here but where they are at in their rebuild would be a factor for me

Everyone has different motivations, I understand he grew up a bit rough so don't blame him for trying to get the most cash money he can.

 

[Gavin Excell]

Do you seriously think that Stringer isn't worth more than Pick 5 ? surely you jest!

Id trade 5 for stringer in a heart beat

 

[doppleganger]

Nice win for Essendon. All it takes is more than 1 club showing interest.

People keep overlooking the most important matter with any trade, the player actually has to agree to it.

If the Saints have offered 700K over 4 years or something like that, and the Hawks can only bring 450K to the table Carlisle may not be interested.

I am yet to read anything from Carlisle's team saying anything other than he wants to be a saint.

So no matter what any other clubs offer, the Dons can only trade Carlisle to a club that he wants to play for = St.Kilda.

 

[Brad Goodman]

Id trade 5 for stringer in a heart beat

Every sane person would.