Knightmare
Brownlow Medallist
- Sep 22, 2010
- 19,533
- 19,542
- AFL Club
- Collingwood
- Other Teams
- Chicago Bulls
- Banned
- #1
2016
Knightsight:
30. Willem Drew
(9 in my power rankings)
45. *Brad Scheer (16 on draft board - bid) likely matched. Given that Dylan Clarke
(20 in power rankings)
50. *Lachlan Tiziani (21 in power rankings - bid) likely matched. Given that Ben Ronke
(25 power rankings - actual position 17 in rookie draft)
57. Brodie Romensky (26 in power rankings)
RD.
7. Brett Eddy
(35 power rankings)
24. Jonty Scharenberg (28 power rankings)
40. Liam Ryan
(41 power rankings) - loved his WAFL play
51. Jye Bolton (40 power rankings)
*extra notes: was opposed to the matching of bids for Callum Brown and Josh Daicos
with neither inside my top 40 and other talents still available rated more highly.
*Trade move notes: Trades I would not have done for what was offered: Witts, Cloke, WHE, Frost, Williams. Only deal I would have agreed to was Dunn at that price. Williams of those was off the table entirely and indispensable as a defender while the others had the deals been more favourably to Collingwood or with pieces I value more highly to be of interest to me.
*Free agency: Would have retained Nathan Brown
and felt while capable the prices were far too much to be considered for Wells and Mayne.
Hinesight:
30. Sam McLarty
35. Callum Brown
50. Kayle Kirby
57. Josh Daicos
RD:
7. Mitch McCarthy
24. Henry Schade
40. Liam Mackie
51. Max Lynch
*draft notes. Only pick I liked was the selection of Kayle Kirby
liking his play in the VFL for Richmond. Way too early for McLarty who missed much of the year with injury and looked like a late pick at best. Brown/Daicos I felt through have been later picks. Mackie of the rookies was the only one I gave any shot to develop without being one I would have picked myself.
Hindsight:
30. Tom Stewart (clear best available)
45. Tim Kelly
(2017 draft - didn't rate at this stage and was lacking the contested side of his game at this point. Has blossomed into an excellent AFL midfielder and has worked out better than anyone else remaining in the pool here)
50. Luke Ryan (Rated 43 on my draft board Ryan is another who I liked but just not as much as those others I took above. Can have a long career in defence)
57. Sam Draper (ruckman who will be one of the best in the competition with time injuries permitting. would be gone by first rookie pick so need to take here)
RD.
7. Rowan Marshall
(great ruckman and a clear best available)
24. Oscar McInerney (became a good ruckman in 2020 and is a best available here.
40. Liam Ryan
(41 power rankings - one I advocated in 2016 but it took another year for him to get picked after another year where he further elevated his game as a forward. One a lot of AFL clubs skipped on due to character/lazy questionmarks but one year into his career now he's a premiership player)
51. Brody Mihocek
(2017 rookie draft - immediate impact)
Summary: Some may have Josh Daicos
and for list balance that's fair enough as this is a lot of ruckmen, but I'm feeling like the ruckmen from this draft will become/are becoming among the best in the competition and you can always flip them later if they become as good as they've become/are becoming. Lots of mature agers suggests each year there are good players overlooked each year and that there is lots of room for improvement within the industry. With Derek as of 2020 seeming to hit on Daicos, he'll be needing a Brown or Lynch to come good to beat my selection of Liam Ryan
. And on my side I still have Willem Drew
who with opportunities could still come good and Jye Bolton even as of end of 2020 is still balling in the WAFL to an arguably best outside the AFL standard.
2017
Knightsight: (who I would have taken if I had the picks to make in Collingwood's position)
Pick 6: Darcy Fogarty
(went to Adelaide pick 12)
Knightmare says: My personal choice at 6. Has the upside to be the best in the draft with his size, explosiveness and damaging kick. I envisage him as a big bodied midfielder down the track, but would start his career as a tall forward.
Draft board position: 5
Pick 39: Charlie Ballard
(went to Gold Coast pick 42)
Knightmare says: May be one clubs regret passing on. Was in the mix first round. A late bloomer. 195cm. Grew 15cm in the past two years. Has played wing up to this point and is an evasive, smooth moving, highly skilled type. Also a strong contested. One I would develop as a key forward, and see potentially having the scope to be as good as any key forward in this draft, with his rate of improvement as high as any by position which is a great indicator for future development with talls.
Power rankings position: 18 (I had Brayden Crossley
one position higher but went with Ballard on list fit/needs basis as I rate both similarly)
Pick 56: Gryan Miers
(went to Geelong pick 57) -
Knightmare says: Was expected to go earlier. Kicked 50 goals from 17 TAC Cup games, leading the competition, and kicked seven in the TAC Cup Grand Final. Smartest forward in the draft and always seems to be in the right spot. Ideal crumbing forward.
Power rankings position: 22 (taken before Butts as Miers was viewed as more likely to be picked)
Pick 60: Jordan Butts (undrafted)
Knightmare says: Youngest in the draft. Led the TAC Cup averaging 7.5 marks per game. Strong mark and reads the flight as well as any in the draft. Can play forward or back, but feels ideally suited to playing key defence. I would develop with an intent for him to succeed Ben Reid
at CHB, with his strength similarly taking intercept marks.
Power rankings position: 20
Summary: Long term KPP stocks would be looking much healthier if we were to have gone this year with skilled height walking in the door. Miers also offers something different up front. Would be stoked if this was the outcome with all played taken inside my top 22 power rankings!
RD.
6. Cassidy Parish (29 in power rankings)
22. Charlie Thompson (34 in power rankings)
*Some other quick offseason notes: Would not have moved the future second as part of a trade for Sam Murray not feeling the price is right.
Hinesight: (actual picks)
Pick 6 – Jaidyn Stephenson
Knightmare says: A good list fit and a suitable selection here. Collingwood lack running height and Stephenson adds that. Big game, big moment player is a bonus. Has a far from perfect game. Inconsistent kick and marking also inconsistent. But a high leaper and capable ball winner. Able to play wing, forward or even push onto the ball.
Pick 39 – Nathan Murphy
Knightmare says: Collingwood believed to have rated Murphy inside their top 10 on their draft board. Despite this, it's around where I would have said Murphy should feature. Flanker who can play both ends. Has some scope to develop.
Pick 50 – Tyler Brown
(bid matched)
Knightmare says: A bid before 39 should not have been matched. At 50, a bid is suitable and a fine outcome for those who love the romanticism surrounding father son choices. Not much of a ball winner at this stage which puts me off taking him, but he does have evasiveness and class.
*Pass
Summary: No KPPs added which isn't ideal, but Collingwood like the value of the picks taken and are happy to add Brown. Outside pace and skill needs the focus with this draft.
RD.
6. Flynn Appleby
22. Brody Mihocek
33. Adam Oxley
*Unrelated list ideas I would have taken Josh Walker as a free agent. Would not have taken Darcy Cameron
through trade. Like the James Aish
trade with Aish someone I don't view as best 22 and feel hasn't been good enough in the finals.
Hindsight:
Pick 6: Aaron Naughton
*Noah Balta
also a consideration here. Both are absolute star KPPs for the future.
Pick 39: Charlie Ballard
is the guy. Long term he'll become one of the best key defenders in the competition.
Pick 56: Gryan Miers
would be a great addition to a front half needing more quality.
Pick 60: Liam Baker
*came good in 2020 and looks like a good long term piece.
RD.
6. Brody Mihocek
(At this stage looks good. Not one I would have taken but was one of the better KPPs outside the AFL. Just liked a few others a little more and questioned whether he would be tall or quick enough)
22. Jake Riccardi (first eligible in 2017 and would have been great to have gotten onto him a few years early. Have Riccardi, Mihocek, Ballard and Naughton or Balta together as a group and that solves the KPP needs for a long time)
Summary: A draft filled with great KPPs and a serious missed opportunity. I'm happy with my own performance choosing Ballard and Miers who still appear optimal picks and are clearly guys you'd still take today. So I'll give myself the points. Stephenson v Fogarty could go either way but is of less relevance now with Stephenson being traded away and as of 2021 I'm not optimistic with the way Fogarty is developing. Tyler Brown
and Nathan Murphy
Collingwood will still be hoping come good, but they're not there yet, while Mihocek is the one really good get by the Pies the Dekka and the team deserve credit for.
**draft performance v Carlton continued:
Carlton take:
17 Brodie Kemp
20 Sam Philp
47 Sam Ramsay
PSD
1. Jack Martin
RD
3. Josh Honey
18. Fraser Phillips
Knightmare:
17 Brodie Kemp
20 Deven Robertson
47 Ryan Byrnes
PSD
1. Jack Martin
RD
3. Joshua Shute
18. Angus Baker
*Past attempts
Did I even do one last year? If so I'm happy to link it up here also.
2015: https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/knightsight-v-hinesight-v-hindsight.1118177/
2014: http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/knightsight-v-hinesight-v-hindsight.1082834/
2013: https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/hinesight-knightsight-and-hindsight-end-of-2013.1041937/
2012: https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/hinesight-knightsight-and-hindsight.981606/
Knightsight:
30. Willem Drew
PLAYERCARDSTART
28
Willem Drew
- Age
- 25
- Ht
- 188cm
- Wt
- 86kg
- Pos.
- Mid
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 15.9
- 4star
- K
- 7.2
- 3star
- HB
- 8.7
- 5star
- M
- 2.2
- 2star
- T
- 5.6
- 5star
- CL
- 2.3
- 4star
No current season stats available
- D
- 18.0
- 5star
- K
- 9.2
- 4star
- HB
- 8.8
- 5star
- M
- 3.0
- 3star
- T
- 4.2
- 5star
- CL
- 2.8
- 5star
PLAYERCARDEND
45. *Brad Scheer (16 on draft board - bid) likely matched. Given that Dylan Clarke
PLAYERCARDSTART
37
Dylan Clarke
- Age
- 25
- Ht
- 187cm
- Wt
- 87kg
- Pos.
- M/F
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 14.9
- 4star
- K
- 6.1
- 2star
- HB
- 8.8
- 5star
- M
- 1.9
- 2star
- T
- 6.3
- 5star
- CL
- 2.3
- 4star
No current season stats available
- D
- 16.0
- 4star
- K
- 6.8
- 3star
- HB
- 9.2
- 5star
- M
- 2.2
- 3star
- T
- 6.6
- 5star
- CL
- 3.4
- 5star
PLAYERCARDEND
50. *Lachlan Tiziani (21 in power rankings - bid) likely matched. Given that Ben Ronke
PLAYERCARDSTART
25
Ben Ronke
- Age
- 26
- Ht
- 183cm
- Wt
- 80kg
- Pos.
- Fwd
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 11.5
- 3star
- K
- 7.5
- 3star
- HB
- 4.0
- 3star
- M
- 2.6
- 3star
- T
- 3.2
- 5star
- G
- 1.0
- 4star
- D
- 9.7
- 2star
- K
- 6.3
- 3star
- HB
- 3.3
- 2star
- M
- 2.0
- 2star
- T
- 3.7
- 4star
- G
- 0.0
- 1star
- D
- 13.2
- 4star
- K
- 9.8
- 4star
- HB
- 3.4
- 3star
- M
- 2.4
- 3star
- T
- 5.2
- 5star
- G
- 2.4
- 5star
PLAYERCARDEND
57. Brodie Romensky (26 in power rankings)
RD.
7. Brett Eddy
PLAYERCARDSTART
Brett Eddy
- Age
- 34
- Ht
- 193cm
- Wt
- 97kg
- Pos.
- Fwd
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 7.0
- 2star
- K
- 5.3
- 2star
- HB
- 1.7
- 2star
- M
- 1.7
- 2star
- T
- 2.3
- 4star
- G
- 1.0
- 4star
No current season stats available
- D
- 7.0
- 2star
- K
- 5.3
- 2star
- HB
- 1.7
- 2star
- M
- 1.7
- 2star
- T
- 2.3
- 4star
- G
- 1.0
- 4star
PLAYERCARDEND
24. Jonty Scharenberg (28 power rankings)
40. Liam Ryan
PLAYERCARDSTART
1
Liam Ryan
- Age
- 27
- Ht
- 181cm
- Wt
- 76kg
- Pos.
- Fwd
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 11.3
- 3star
- K
- 8.6
- 3star
- HB
- 2.7
- 2star
- M
- 3.0
- 3star
- T
- 2.0
- 4star
- G
- 1.3
- 5star
- D
- 9.9
- 3star
- K
- 8.0
- 3star
- HB
- 1.9
- 1star
- M
- 3.3
- 3star
- T
- 1.6
- 3star
- G
- 1.3
- 5star
- D
- 11.4
- 3star
- K
- 9.0
- 4star
- HB
- 2.4
- 3star
- M
- 3.8
- 4star
- T
- 1.8
- 4star
- G
- 1.6
- 5star
PLAYERCARDEND
51. Jye Bolton (40 power rankings)
*extra notes: was opposed to the matching of bids for Callum Brown and Josh Daicos
PLAYERCARDSTART
7
Josh Daicos
- Age
- 25
- Ht
- 178cm
- Wt
- 77kg
- Pos.
- Mid
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 15.6
- 4star
- K
- 8.3
- 3star
- HB
- 7.3
- 5star
- M
- 3.3
- 3star
- T
- 3.6
- 5star
- CL
- 1.3
- 3star
- D
- 16.2
- 4star
- K
- 9.2
- 4star
- HB
- 7.0
- 4star
- M
- 3.3
- 3star
- T
- 3.5
- 4star
- CL
- 1.5
- 4star
- D
- 13.8
- 4star
- K
- 7.6
- 3star
- HB
- 6.2
- 4star
- M
- 3.2
- 4star
- T
- 4.2
- 5star
- CL
- 1.2
- 4star
PLAYERCARDEND
*Trade move notes: Trades I would not have done for what was offered: Witts, Cloke, WHE, Frost, Williams. Only deal I would have agreed to was Dunn at that price. Williams of those was off the table entirely and indispensable as a defender while the others had the deals been more favourably to Collingwood or with pieces I value more highly to be of interest to me.
*Free agency: Would have retained Nathan Brown
PLAYERCARDSTART
22
Nathan Brown
- Age
- 35
- Ht
- 196cm
- Wt
- 99kg
- Pos.
- Def
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 8.8
- 2star
- K
- 3.9
- 2star
- HB
- 4.9
- 4star
- M
- 2.7
- 3star
- T
- 1.8
- 4star
No current season stats available
- D
- 6.4
- 2star
- K
- 3.2
- 2star
- HB
- 3.2
- 3star
- M
- 1.8
- 2star
- T
- 2.8
- 5star
PLAYERCARDEND
Hinesight:
30. Sam McLarty
35. Callum Brown
50. Kayle Kirby
PLAYERCARDSTART
Kayle Kirby
- Age
- 25
- Ht
- 182cm
- Wt
- 89kg
- Pos.
- Fwd
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 4.0
- 1star
- K
- 3.0
- 1star
- HB
- 1.0
- 1star
- M
- 2.0
- 2star
- T
- 5.0
- 5star
- G
- 0.0
- 1star
No current season stats available
- D
- 4.0
- 1star
- K
- 3.0
- 1star
- HB
- 1.0
- 2star
- M
- 2.0
- 3star
- T
- 5.0
- 5star
- G
- 0.0
- 1star
PLAYERCARDEND
57. Josh Daicos
PLAYERCARDSTART
7
Josh Daicos
- Age
- 25
- Ht
- 178cm
- Wt
- 77kg
- Pos.
- Mid
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 15.6
- 4star
- K
- 8.3
- 3star
- HB
- 7.3
- 5star
- M
- 3.3
- 3star
- T
- 3.6
- 5star
- CL
- 1.3
- 3star
- D
- 16.2
- 4star
- K
- 9.2
- 4star
- HB
- 7.0
- 4star
- M
- 3.3
- 3star
- T
- 3.5
- 4star
- CL
- 1.5
- 4star
- D
- 13.8
- 4star
- K
- 7.6
- 3star
- HB
- 6.2
- 4star
- M
- 3.2
- 4star
- T
- 4.2
- 5star
- CL
- 1.2
- 4star
PLAYERCARDEND
RD:
7. Mitch McCarthy
24. Henry Schade
PLAYERCARDSTART
Henry Schade
- Age
- 30
- Ht
- 197cm
- Wt
- 89kg
- Pos.
- Def
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 11.7
- 3star
- K
- 6.3
- 2star
- HB
- 5.4
- 4star
- M
- 3.9
- 4star
- T
- 1.5
- 3star
- MG
- 172.3
- 3star
No current season stats available
- D
- 10.2
- 3star
- K
- 5.2
- 2star
- HB
- 5.0
- 4star
- M
- 3.2
- 4star
- T
- 2.4
- 4star
- MG
- 135.0
- 3star
PLAYERCARDEND
40. Liam Mackie
51. Max Lynch
*draft notes. Only pick I liked was the selection of Kayle Kirby
PLAYERCARDSTART
Kayle Kirby
- Age
- 25
- Ht
- 182cm
- Wt
- 89kg
- Pos.
- Fwd
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 4.0
- 1star
- K
- 3.0
- 1star
- HB
- 1.0
- 1star
- M
- 2.0
- 2star
- T
- 5.0
- 5star
- G
- 0.0
- 1star
No current season stats available
- D
- 4.0
- 1star
- K
- 3.0
- 1star
- HB
- 1.0
- 2star
- M
- 2.0
- 3star
- T
- 5.0
- 5star
- G
- 0.0
- 1star
PLAYERCARDEND
Hindsight:
30. Tom Stewart (clear best available)
45. Tim Kelly
PLAYERCARDSTART
11
Tim Kelly
- Age
- 29
- Ht
- 184cm
- Wt
- 83kg
- Pos.
- Mid
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 23.6
- 5star
- K
- 13.5
- 5star
- HB
- 10.1
- 5star
- M
- 3.4
- 3star
- T
- 4.0
- 5star
- CL
- 4.9
- 5star
- D
- 19.9
- 5star
- K
- 12.3
- 5star
- HB
- 7.6
- 4star
- M
- 3.1
- 3star
- T
- 4.7
- 5star
- CL
- 3.6
- 4star
- D
- 21.6
- 5star
- K
- 10.4
- 4star
- HB
- 11.2
- 5star
- M
- 2.8
- 3star
- T
- 3.8
- 5star
- CL
- 3.8
- 5star
PLAYERCARDEND
50. Luke Ryan (Rated 43 on my draft board Ryan is another who I liked but just not as much as those others I took above. Can have a long career in defence)
57. Sam Draper (ruckman who will be one of the best in the competition with time injuries permitting. would be gone by first rookie pick so need to take here)
RD.
7. Rowan Marshall
PLAYERCARDSTART
19
Rowan Marshall
- Age
- 28
- Ht
- 201cm
- Wt
- 105kg
- Pos.
- Ruck
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 15.4
- 4star
- K
- 8.8
- 3star
- HB
- 6.6
- 4star
- CL
- 3.4
- 5star
- HO
- 20.2
- 5star
- D
- 12.9
- 3star
- K
- 9.3
- 4star
- HB
- 3.6
- 2star
- CL
- 2.8
- 4star
- HO
- 17.8
- 5star
- D
- 10.6
- 3star
- K
- 5.8
- 3star
- HB
- 4.8
- 4star
- CL
- 1.0
- 3star
- HO
- 7.8
- 5star
PLAYERCARDEND
24. Oscar McInerney (became a good ruckman in 2020 and is a best available here.
40. Liam Ryan
PLAYERCARDSTART
1
Liam Ryan
- Age
- 27
- Ht
- 181cm
- Wt
- 76kg
- Pos.
- Fwd
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 11.3
- 3star
- K
- 8.6
- 3star
- HB
- 2.7
- 2star
- M
- 3.0
- 3star
- T
- 2.0
- 4star
- G
- 1.3
- 5star
- D
- 9.9
- 3star
- K
- 8.0
- 3star
- HB
- 1.9
- 1star
- M
- 3.3
- 3star
- T
- 1.6
- 3star
- G
- 1.3
- 5star
- D
- 11.4
- 3star
- K
- 9.0
- 4star
- HB
- 2.4
- 3star
- M
- 3.8
- 4star
- T
- 1.8
- 4star
- G
- 1.6
- 5star
PLAYERCARDEND
51. Brody Mihocek
PLAYERCARDSTART
41
Brody Mihocek
- Age
- 31
- Ht
- 192cm
- Wt
- 99kg
- Pos.
- Fwd
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 11.9
- 3star
- K
- 8.2
- 3star
- HB
- 3.7
- 3star
- M
- 5.3
- 5star
- T
- 2.0
- 4star
- G
- 1.6
- 5star
- D
- 8.4
- 2star
- K
- 6.3
- 3star
- HB
- 2.1
- 2star
- M
- 4.3
- 4star
- T
- 1.9
- 3star
- G
- 1.7
- 5star
- D
- 10.2
- 3star
- K
- 6.4
- 3star
- HB
- 3.8
- 3star
- M
- 4.6
- 5star
- T
- 1.8
- 4star
- G
- 1.6
- 5star
PLAYERCARDEND
Summary: Some may have Josh Daicos
PLAYERCARDSTART
7
Josh Daicos
- Age
- 25
- Ht
- 178cm
- Wt
- 77kg
- Pos.
- Mid
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 15.6
- 4star
- K
- 8.3
- 3star
- HB
- 7.3
- 5star
- M
- 3.3
- 3star
- T
- 3.6
- 5star
- CL
- 1.3
- 3star
- D
- 16.2
- 4star
- K
- 9.2
- 4star
- HB
- 7.0
- 4star
- M
- 3.3
- 3star
- T
- 3.5
- 4star
- CL
- 1.5
- 4star
- D
- 13.8
- 4star
- K
- 7.6
- 3star
- HB
- 6.2
- 4star
- M
- 3.2
- 4star
- T
- 4.2
- 5star
- CL
- 1.2
- 4star
PLAYERCARDEND
PLAYERCARDSTART
1
Liam Ryan
- Age
- 27
- Ht
- 181cm
- Wt
- 76kg
- Pos.
- Fwd
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 11.3
- 3star
- K
- 8.6
- 3star
- HB
- 2.7
- 2star
- M
- 3.0
- 3star
- T
- 2.0
- 4star
- G
- 1.3
- 5star
- D
- 9.9
- 3star
- K
- 8.0
- 3star
- HB
- 1.9
- 1star
- M
- 3.3
- 3star
- T
- 1.6
- 3star
- G
- 1.3
- 5star
- D
- 11.4
- 3star
- K
- 9.0
- 4star
- HB
- 2.4
- 3star
- M
- 3.8
- 4star
- T
- 1.8
- 4star
- G
- 1.6
- 5star
PLAYERCARDEND
PLAYERCARDSTART
28
Willem Drew
- Age
- 25
- Ht
- 188cm
- Wt
- 86kg
- Pos.
- Mid
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 15.9
- 4star
- K
- 7.2
- 3star
- HB
- 8.7
- 5star
- M
- 2.2
- 2star
- T
- 5.6
- 5star
- CL
- 2.3
- 4star
No current season stats available
- D
- 18.0
- 5star
- K
- 9.2
- 4star
- HB
- 8.8
- 5star
- M
- 3.0
- 3star
- T
- 4.2
- 5star
- CL
- 2.8
- 5star
PLAYERCARDEND
2017
Knightsight: (who I would have taken if I had the picks to make in Collingwood's position)
Pick 6: Darcy Fogarty
PLAYERCARDSTART
32
Darcy Fogarty
- Age
- 24
- Ht
- 194cm
- Wt
- 100kg
- Pos.
- Fwd
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 8.5
- 2star
- K
- 5.7
- 2star
- HB
- 2.8
- 2star
- M
- 3.7
- 4star
- T
- 1.7
- 4star
- G
- 1.2
- 4star
- D
- 6.3
- 1star
- K
- 4.0
- 1star
- HB
- 2.3
- 2star
- M
- 3.0
- 3star
- T
- 2.3
- 3star
- G
- 1.0
- 4star
- D
- 8.0
- 2star
- K
- 5.4
- 2star
- HB
- 2.6
- 3star
- M
- 3.4
- 4star
- T
- 2.6
- 4star
- G
- 1.0
- 4star
PLAYERCARDEND
Knightmare says: My personal choice at 6. Has the upside to be the best in the draft with his size, explosiveness and damaging kick. I envisage him as a big bodied midfielder down the track, but would start his career as a tall forward.
Draft board position: 5
Pick 39: Charlie Ballard
PLAYERCARDSTART
10
Charlie Ballard
- Age
- 24
- Ht
- 196cm
- Wt
- 95kg
- Pos.
- Def
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 11.9
- 3star
- K
- 8.8
- 3star
- HB
- 3.1
- 3star
- M
- 4.7
- 4star
- T
- 1.2
- 3star
- MG
- 185.6
- 3star
- D
- 11.3
- 3star
- K
- 7.7
- 3star
- HB
- 3.6
- 2star
- M
- 4.9
- 5star
- T
- 1.3
- 2star
- MG
- 158.9
- 3star
- D
- 9.4
- 3star
- K
- 7.0
- 3star
- HB
- 2.4
- 3star
- M
- 3.6
- 4star
- T
- 1.4
- 4star
- MG
- 156.0
- 3star
PLAYERCARDEND
Knightmare says: May be one clubs regret passing on. Was in the mix first round. A late bloomer. 195cm. Grew 15cm in the past two years. Has played wing up to this point and is an evasive, smooth moving, highly skilled type. Also a strong contested. One I would develop as a key forward, and see potentially having the scope to be as good as any key forward in this draft, with his rate of improvement as high as any by position which is a great indicator for future development with talls.
Power rankings position: 18 (I had Brayden Crossley
PLAYERCARDSTART
Brayden Crossley
- Age
- 24
- Ht
- 198cm
- Wt
- 102kg
- Pos.
- Fwd
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 9.4
- 2star
- K
- 4.5
- 2star
- HB
- 4.9
- 4star
- M
- 2.4
- 3star
- T
- 2.2
- 4star
- G
- 0.5
- 3star
No current season stats available
- D
- 9.2
- 3star
- K
- 5.0
- 2star
- HB
- 4.2
- 4star
- M
- 2.0
- 3star
- T
- 2.2
- 4star
- G
- 0.6
- 3star
PLAYERCARDEND
Pick 56: Gryan Miers
PLAYERCARDSTART
32
Gryan Miers
- Age
- 25
- Ht
- 179cm
- Wt
- 81kg
- Pos.
- Fwd
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 15.4
- 4star
- K
- 9.1
- 4star
- HB
- 6.3
- 4star
- M
- 4.1
- 4star
- T
- 1.8
- 4star
- G
- 1.1
- 4star
- D
- 15.3
- 4star
- K
- 9.0
- 4star
- HB
- 6.3
- 4star
- M
- 4.6
- 4star
- T
- 1.6
- 3star
- G
- 0.9
- 4star
- D
- 14.4
- 4star
- K
- 8.4
- 4star
- HB
- 6.0
- 4star
- M
- 3.8
- 4star
- T
- 2.2
- 4star
- G
- 1.2
- 4star
PLAYERCARDEND
Knightmare says: Was expected to go earlier. Kicked 50 goals from 17 TAC Cup games, leading the competition, and kicked seven in the TAC Cup Grand Final. Smartest forward in the draft and always seems to be in the right spot. Ideal crumbing forward.
Power rankings position: 22 (taken before Butts as Miers was viewed as more likely to be picked)
Pick 60: Jordan Butts (undrafted)
Knightmare says: Youngest in the draft. Led the TAC Cup averaging 7.5 marks per game. Strong mark and reads the flight as well as any in the draft. Can play forward or back, but feels ideally suited to playing key defence. I would develop with an intent for him to succeed Ben Reid
PLAYERCARDSTART
20
Ben Reid
- Age
- 34
- Ht
- 196cm
- Wt
- 98kg
- Pos.
- Fwd
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 14.3
- 4star
- K
- 9.5
- 4star
- HB
- 4.9
- 4star
- M
- 6.0
- 5star
- T
- 1.2
- 3star
- G
- 0.6
- 4star
No current season stats available
- D
- 14.0
- 4star
- K
- 8.6
- 4star
- HB
- 5.4
- 4star
- M
- 6.0
- 5star
- T
- 1.0
- 3star
- G
- 0.0
- 1star
PLAYERCARDEND
Power rankings position: 20
Summary: Long term KPP stocks would be looking much healthier if we were to have gone this year with skilled height walking in the door. Miers also offers something different up front. Would be stoked if this was the outcome with all played taken inside my top 22 power rankings!
RD.
6. Cassidy Parish (29 in power rankings)
22. Charlie Thompson (34 in power rankings)
*Some other quick offseason notes: Would not have moved the future second as part of a trade for Sam Murray not feeling the price is right.
Hinesight: (actual picks)
Pick 6 – Jaidyn Stephenson
PLAYERCARDSTART
2
Jaidyn Stephenson
- Age
- 25
- Ht
- 189cm
- Wt
- 79kg
- Pos.
- Fwd
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 13.2
- 3star
- K
- 8.8
- 3star
- HB
- 4.4
- 3star
- M
- 4.7
- 4star
- T
- 2.6
- 4star
- G
- 1.5
- 5star
- D
- 11.0
- 3star
- K
- 6.7
- 3star
- HB
- 4.3
- 3star
- M
- 3.5
- 3star
- T
- 2.7
- 4star
- G
- 1.2
- 5star
- D
- 12.6
- 4star
- K
- 8.0
- 3star
- HB
- 4.6
- 4star
- M
- 3.4
- 4star
- T
- 3.4
- 5star
- G
- 1.4
- 5star
PLAYERCARDEND
Knightmare says: A good list fit and a suitable selection here. Collingwood lack running height and Stephenson adds that. Big game, big moment player is a bonus. Has a far from perfect game. Inconsistent kick and marking also inconsistent. But a high leaper and capable ball winner. Able to play wing, forward or even push onto the ball.
Pick 39 – Nathan Murphy
PLAYERCARDSTART
28
Nathan Murphy
- Age
- 24
- Ht
- 192cm
- Wt
- 90kg
- Pos.
- Def
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 11.5
- 3star
- K
- 6.5
- 3star
- HB
- 5.0
- 4star
- M
- 2.5
- 3star
- T
- 1.5
- 3star
- MG
- 176.5
- 3star
No current season stats available
- D
- 11.5
- 3star
- K
- 6.5
- 3star
- HB
- 5.0
- 4star
- M
- 2.5
- 3star
- T
- 1.5
- 4star
- MG
- 176.5
- 3star
PLAYERCARDEND
Knightmare says: Collingwood believed to have rated Murphy inside their top 10 on their draft board. Despite this, it's around where I would have said Murphy should feature. Flanker who can play both ends. Has some scope to develop.
Pick 50 – Tyler Brown
PLAYERCARDSTART
21
Tyler Brown
- Age
- 24
- Ht
- 192cm
- Wt
- 84kg
- Pos.
- M/F
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 11.0
- 3star
- K
- 4.0
- 2star
- HB
- 7.0
- 4star
- M
- 1.0
- 1star
- T
- 1.4
- 3star
- CL
- 0.6
- 3star
- D
- 11.0
- 3star
- K
- 4.0
- 1star
- HB
- 7.0
- 4star
- M
- 1.0
- 1star
- T
- 1.4
- 2star
- CL
- 0.6
- 3star
- D
- 11.0
- 3star
- K
- 4.0
- 2star
- HB
- 7.0
- 5star
- M
- 1.0
- 1star
- T
- 1.4
- 4star
- CL
- 0.6
- 3star
PLAYERCARDEND
Knightmare says: A bid before 39 should not have been matched. At 50, a bid is suitable and a fine outcome for those who love the romanticism surrounding father son choices. Not much of a ball winner at this stage which puts me off taking him, but he does have evasiveness and class.
*Pass
Summary: No KPPs added which isn't ideal, but Collingwood like the value of the picks taken and are happy to add Brown. Outside pace and skill needs the focus with this draft.
RD.
6. Flynn Appleby
PLAYERCARDSTART
31
Flynn Appleby
- Age
- 25
- Ht
- 187cm
- Wt
- 86kg
- Pos.
- Def
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 11.4
- 3star
- K
- 7.2
- 3star
- HB
- 4.2
- 3star
- M
- 3.5
- 4star
- T
- 1.4
- 3star
- MG
- 109.7
- 2star
No current season stats available
- D
- 12.6
- 4star
- K
- 8.8
- 4star
- HB
- 3.8
- 3star
- M
- 4.2
- 4star
- T
- 1.4
- 4star
- MG
- 120.8
- 2star
PLAYERCARDEND
22. Brody Mihocek
PLAYERCARDSTART
41
Brody Mihocek
- Age
- 31
- Ht
- 192cm
- Wt
- 99kg
- Pos.
- Fwd
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 11.9
- 3star
- K
- 8.2
- 3star
- HB
- 3.7
- 3star
- M
- 5.3
- 5star
- T
- 2.0
- 4star
- G
- 1.6
- 5star
- D
- 8.4
- 2star
- K
- 6.3
- 3star
- HB
- 2.1
- 2star
- M
- 4.3
- 4star
- T
- 1.9
- 3star
- G
- 1.7
- 5star
- D
- 10.2
- 3star
- K
- 6.4
- 3star
- HB
- 3.8
- 3star
- M
- 4.6
- 5star
- T
- 1.8
- 4star
- G
- 1.6
- 5star
PLAYERCARDEND
33. Adam Oxley
*Unrelated list ideas I would have taken Josh Walker as a free agent. Would not have taken Darcy Cameron
PLAYERCARDSTART
14
Darcy Cameron
- Age
- 28
- Ht
- 204cm
- Wt
- 103kg
- Pos.
- Ruck
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 6.0
- 1star
- K
- 3.3
- 1star
- HB
- 2.7
- 2star
- CL
- 0.3
- 2star
- HO
- 5.3
- 5star
- D
- 7.5
- 2star
- K
- 4.5
- 2star
- HB
- 3.0
- 2star
- CL
- 0.5
- 3star
- HO
- 3.5
- 5star
- D
- 6.0
- 2star
- K
- 3.3
- 2star
- HB
- 2.7
- 3star
- CL
- 0.3
- 2star
- HO
- 5.3
- 5star
PLAYERCARDEND
PLAYERCARDSTART
Multiple players found. Use birthday to differentiate. eg [PLAYERCARD="23/11/1962"]Joe Smith[/PLAYERCARD]
PLAYERCARDEND
Hindsight:
Pick 6: Aaron Naughton
PLAYERCARDSTART
33
Aaron Naughton
- Age
- 24
- Ht
- 196cm
- Wt
- 92kg
- Pos.
- Fwd
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 10.7
- 3star
- K
- 7.0
- 3star
- HB
- 3.7
- 3star
- M
- 4.9
- 5star
- T
- 1.8
- 4star
- G
- 0.8
- 4star
- D
- 6.3
- 1star
- K
- 4.0
- 1star
- HB
- 2.3
- 2star
- M
- 2.5
- 3star
- T
- 0.8
- 1star
- G
- 0.5
- 4star
- D
- 12.8
- 4star
- K
- 8.8
- 4star
- HB
- 4.0
- 3star
- M
- 4.8
- 5star
- T
- 1.2
- 3star
- G
- 0.0
- 1star
PLAYERCARDEND
PLAYERCARDSTART
21
Noah Balta
- Age
- 24
- Ht
- 194cm
- Wt
- 105kg
- Pos.
- D/F
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 9.8
- 2star
- K
- 6.7
- 3star
- HB
- 3.1
- 3star
- M
- 2.7
- 3star
- T
- 1.9
- 4star
- MG
- 236.3
- 4star
- D
- 12.0
- 3star
- K
- 6.7
- 3star
- HB
- 5.3
- 3star
- M
- 4.0
- 4star
- T
- 0.3
- 1star
- MG
- 233.0
- 4star
- D
- 7.0
- 2star
- K
- 5.0
- 2star
- HB
- 2.0
- 2star
- M
- 1.8
- 2star
- T
- 1.8
- 4star
- MG
- 217.4
- 4star
PLAYERCARDEND
Pick 39: Charlie Ballard
PLAYERCARDSTART
10
Charlie Ballard
- Age
- 24
- Ht
- 196cm
- Wt
- 95kg
- Pos.
- Def
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 11.9
- 3star
- K
- 8.8
- 3star
- HB
- 3.1
- 3star
- M
- 4.7
- 4star
- T
- 1.2
- 3star
- MG
- 185.6
- 3star
- D
- 11.3
- 3star
- K
- 7.7
- 3star
- HB
- 3.6
- 2star
- M
- 4.9
- 5star
- T
- 1.3
- 2star
- MG
- 158.9
- 3star
- D
- 9.4
- 3star
- K
- 7.0
- 3star
- HB
- 2.4
- 3star
- M
- 3.6
- 4star
- T
- 1.4
- 4star
- MG
- 156.0
- 3star
PLAYERCARDEND
Pick 56: Gryan Miers
PLAYERCARDSTART
32
Gryan Miers
- Age
- 25
- Ht
- 179cm
- Wt
- 81kg
- Pos.
- Fwd
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 15.4
- 4star
- K
- 9.1
- 4star
- HB
- 6.3
- 4star
- M
- 4.1
- 4star
- T
- 1.8
- 4star
- G
- 1.1
- 4star
- D
- 15.3
- 4star
- K
- 9.0
- 4star
- HB
- 6.3
- 4star
- M
- 4.6
- 4star
- T
- 1.6
- 3star
- G
- 0.9
- 4star
- D
- 14.4
- 4star
- K
- 8.4
- 4star
- HB
- 6.0
- 4star
- M
- 3.8
- 4star
- T
- 2.2
- 4star
- G
- 1.2
- 4star
PLAYERCARDEND
Pick 60: Liam Baker
PLAYERCARDSTART
7
Liam Baker
- Age
- 26
- Ht
- 173cm
- Wt
- 72kg
- Pos.
- D/F
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 15.7
- 4star
- K
- 7.8
- 3star
- HB
- 7.9
- 5star
- M
- 3.2
- 3star
- T
- 2.6
- 4star
- MG
- 222.2
- 3star
- D
- 14.6
- 4star
- K
- 6.8
- 3star
- HB
- 7.9
- 4star
- M
- 3.8
- 4star
- T
- 1.8
- 3star
- MG
- 191.9
- 3star
- D
- 14.4
- 4star
- K
- 6.2
- 3star
- HB
- 8.2
- 5star
- M
- 1.6
- 2star
- T
- 1.8
- 4star
- MG
- 224.2
- 4star
PLAYERCARDEND
RD.
6. Brody Mihocek
PLAYERCARDSTART
41
Brody Mihocek
- Age
- 31
- Ht
- 192cm
- Wt
- 99kg
- Pos.
- Fwd
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 11.9
- 3star
- K
- 8.2
- 3star
- HB
- 3.7
- 3star
- M
- 5.3
- 5star
- T
- 2.0
- 4star
- G
- 1.6
- 5star
- D
- 8.4
- 2star
- K
- 6.3
- 3star
- HB
- 2.1
- 2star
- M
- 4.3
- 4star
- T
- 1.9
- 3star
- G
- 1.7
- 5star
- D
- 10.2
- 3star
- K
- 6.4
- 3star
- HB
- 3.8
- 3star
- M
- 4.6
- 5star
- T
- 1.8
- 4star
- G
- 1.6
- 5star
PLAYERCARDEND
22. Jake Riccardi (first eligible in 2017 and would have been great to have gotten onto him a few years early. Have Riccardi, Mihocek, Ballard and Naughton or Balta together as a group and that solves the KPP needs for a long time)
Summary: A draft filled with great KPPs and a serious missed opportunity. I'm happy with my own performance choosing Ballard and Miers who still appear optimal picks and are clearly guys you'd still take today. So I'll give myself the points. Stephenson v Fogarty could go either way but is of less relevance now with Stephenson being traded away and as of 2021 I'm not optimistic with the way Fogarty is developing. Tyler Brown
PLAYERCARDSTART
21
Tyler Brown
- Age
- 24
- Ht
- 192cm
- Wt
- 84kg
- Pos.
- M/F
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 11.0
- 3star
- K
- 4.0
- 2star
- HB
- 7.0
- 4star
- M
- 1.0
- 1star
- T
- 1.4
- 3star
- CL
- 0.6
- 3star
- D
- 11.0
- 3star
- K
- 4.0
- 1star
- HB
- 7.0
- 4star
- M
- 1.0
- 1star
- T
- 1.4
- 2star
- CL
- 0.6
- 3star
- D
- 11.0
- 3star
- K
- 4.0
- 2star
- HB
- 7.0
- 5star
- M
- 1.0
- 1star
- T
- 1.4
- 4star
- CL
- 0.6
- 3star
PLAYERCARDEND
PLAYERCARDSTART
28
Nathan Murphy
- Age
- 24
- Ht
- 192cm
- Wt
- 90kg
- Pos.
- Def
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 11.5
- 3star
- K
- 6.5
- 3star
- HB
- 5.0
- 4star
- M
- 2.5
- 3star
- T
- 1.5
- 3star
- MG
- 176.5
- 3star
No current season stats available
- D
- 11.5
- 3star
- K
- 6.5
- 3star
- HB
- 5.0
- 4star
- M
- 2.5
- 3star
- T
- 1.5
- 4star
- MG
- 176.5
- 3star
PLAYERCARDEND
**draft performance v Carlton continued:
Carlton take:
17 Brodie Kemp
20 Sam Philp
PLAYERCARDSTART
34
Sam Philp
- Age
- 22
- Ht
- 186cm
- Wt
- 83kg
- Pos.
- Fwd
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 7.0
- 2star
- K
- 4.0
- 2star
- HB
- 3.0
- 3star
- M
- 0.5
- 1star
- T
- 1.5
- 3star
- G
- 0.5
- 3star
- D
- 7.0
- 1star
- K
- 4.0
- 1star
- HB
- 3.0
- 2star
- M
- 0.5
- 1star
- T
- 1.5
- 2star
- G
- 0.5
- 4star
- D
- 7.0
- 2star
- K
- 4.0
- 2star
- HB
- 3.0
- 3star
- M
- 0.5
- 1star
- T
- 1.5
- 4star
- G
- 0.5
- 3star
PLAYERCARDEND
47 Sam Ramsay
PSD
1. Jack Martin
PLAYERCARDSTART
21
Jack Martin
- Age
- 29
- Ht
- 186cm
- Wt
- 82kg
- Pos.
- Fwd
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 16.2
- 4star
- K
- 10.0
- 4star
- HB
- 6.3
- 4star
- M
- 4.9
- 5star
- T
- 3.7
- 5star
- G
- 0.9
- 4star
- D
- 14.9
- 4star
- K
- 7.9
- 3star
- HB
- 7.0
- 4star
- M
- 4.3
- 4star
- T
- 3.6
- 4star
- G
- 1.1
- 5star
- D
- 8.2
- 2star
- K
- 4.6
- 2star
- HB
- 3.6
- 3star
- M
- 1.8
- 2star
- T
- 2.0
- 4star
- G
- 0.6
- 3star
PLAYERCARDEND
RD
3. Josh Honey
18. Fraser Phillips
Knightmare:
17 Brodie Kemp
20 Deven Robertson
PLAYERCARDSTART
2
Deven Robertson
- Age
- 22
- Ht
- 185cm
- Wt
- 84kg
- Pos.
- M/F
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 7.0
- 2star
- K
- 3.0
- 1star
- HB
- 4.0
- 3star
- M
- 0.0
- 1star
- T
- 3.0
- 5star
- CL
- 0.0
- 1star
- D
- 7.0
- 1star
- K
- 3.0
- 1star
- HB
- 4.0
- 3star
- M
- 0.0
- 1star
- T
- 3.0
- 4star
- CL
- 0.0
- 1star
- D
- 7.0
- 2star
- K
- 3.0
- 1star
- HB
- 4.0
- 3star
- M
- 0.0
- 1star
- T
- 3.0
- 5star
- CL
- 0.0
- 1star
PLAYERCARDEND
47 Ryan Byrnes
PLAYERCARDSTART
13
Ryan Byrnes
- Age
- 22
- Ht
- 181cm
- Wt
- 84kg
- Pos.
- Mid
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 5.0
- 1star
- K
- 2.0
- 1star
- HB
- 3.0
- 3star
- M
- 0.0
- 1star
- T
- 2.0
- 4star
- CL
- 0.0
- 1star
- D
- 5.0
- 1star
- K
- 2.0
- 1star
- HB
- 3.0
- 2star
- M
- 0.0
- 1star
- T
- 2.0
- 3star
- CL
- 0.0
- 1star
- D
- 5.0
- 1star
- K
- 2.0
- 1star
- HB
- 3.0
- 3star
- M
- 0.0
- 1star
- T
- 2.0
- 4star
- CL
- 0.0
- 1star
PLAYERCARDEND
PSD
1. Jack Martin
PLAYERCARDSTART
21
Jack Martin
- Age
- 29
- Ht
- 186cm
- Wt
- 82kg
- Pos.
- Fwd
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 16.2
- 4star
- K
- 10.0
- 4star
- HB
- 6.3
- 4star
- M
- 4.9
- 5star
- T
- 3.7
- 5star
- G
- 0.9
- 4star
- D
- 14.9
- 4star
- K
- 7.9
- 3star
- HB
- 7.0
- 4star
- M
- 4.3
- 4star
- T
- 3.6
- 4star
- G
- 1.1
- 5star
- D
- 8.2
- 2star
- K
- 4.6
- 2star
- HB
- 3.6
- 3star
- M
- 1.8
- 2star
- T
- 2.0
- 4star
- G
- 0.6
- 3star
PLAYERCARDEND
RD
3. Joshua Shute
18. Angus Baker
*Past attempts
Did I even do one last year? If so I'm happy to link it up here also.
2015: https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/knightsight-v-hinesight-v-hindsight.1118177/
2014: http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/knightsight-v-hinesight-v-hindsight.1082834/
2013: https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/hinesight-knightsight-and-hindsight-end-of-2013.1041937/
2012: https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/hinesight-knightsight-and-hindsight.981606/
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