Lets face it.

[WaynesWorld19]

We have to keep Jericho. Considering the amount of games he's already played he'll have to stay on for a whole bunch more seasons to be categorically more useless than Matthew Smith.
Nah, just kidding. Jericho has some good attributes and I think he'll rightfully survive this year. Just needs to break a couple of those eggs that he has in his pocket when he plays.

A club queried about pace will IMo not let a pacy player capable of a mark go when he rightfully should be coming into the right age bracket (on ave) to play good footy.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Biglands signed on for 2 years. I think Huddo's contract was expiring at the end of this year and I am not sure if he signed on

Fair call RE Griffin. Now that I think about it, we can always re-rookie him if we are that interested.

He signed on for an additional 2 years (2006/07) just b4 he was injured

 

[Mad Dog]

A club queried about pace will IMo not let a pacy player capable of a mark go when he rightfully should be coming into the right age bracket (on ave) to play good footy.

NAB Cup Final Board.....

 

[Stiffy_18]

A club queried about pace will IMo not let a pacy player capable of a mark go when he rightfully should be coming into the right age bracket (on ave) to play good footy.

Lets put it this way, I would be VERY surprised if Jericho is not retained. However, next year is his last chance to cement a spot in the side. He has the tools to be a good footballer so its his time to step up. If he doesn't then he will shown the door at the end of next year.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

When Gibson's fit, he makes the league side. That might not be much of an achievement, but it's a fact.

I don't see any basis for the "get rid of Gibson " retoric other than his constant injuries.

IMO:

1. I agree Drummond he is invariably picked for Norwoods league side when fit.
2. He was drafted as a "very big" bottom age kid who by rights should have been drafted last year.
3. Obviously as a 17/18 year old whose body is still developing his muscles are struggling to cope....let his body mature and these niggles will diasappear.

Kane Johnson was also VERY prone to hamstrings but he was managed well and hardly has problems now.


Hentschell goes down and who have we got as a KPP coming thru......no-one folks unless Stevens or Bock are going to be our forward saviour.

Recruit a KPP in this draft and it'll be 3 years to get him to start playing reasonable footy......which also says why after 2 years do you consider Gibson a lost cause.

I think we'll have to trade for a KPP BUT if Smith can stay on our list for 5 years surely Gibson can get 4 years

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Lets put it this way, I would be VERY surprised if Jericho is not retained. However, next year is his last chance to cement a spot in the side. He has the tools to be a good footballer so its his time to step up. If he doesn't then he will shown the door at the end of next year.

I agree ...if he can't bounce back after the smack in the teeth this year and seeing what can happen to a career with Hentschell....then he does not have the right character and should be shown the door.

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

Lets put it this way, I would be VERY surprised if Jericho is not retained. However, next year is his last chance to cement a spot in the side. He has the tools to be a good footballer so its his time to step up. If he doesn't then he will shown the door at the end of next year.

I disagree. If you don't have even an ounce of physicallity and your not willing to lay the hard tackle or put your body in the line of the ball, then no matter how quick you are, you're not going to make it.

As for Gibson, if M Smith gets 6 years on the list then surely Gibson should get at least one more. In the past 2 years we have lost 4 KPP's - Stevens, Carey, Kruger, Watts and now with the loss of Trent, I can't see us delisting any kpp's this year. Actually we would be mad too. As for Obst, I have seen him play a few games and he is miles off. From what I have seen, there's not much to get excited about there.

As for Meesen, he's gone, no if or buts about it. I reckon Griffen will get another year becuase of it. But the kid needs to seriously bulk up.

 

[Stiffy_18]

I don't see any basis for the "get rid of Gibson " retoric other than his constant injuries.

IMO:

1. I agree Drummond he is invariably picked for Norwoods league side when fit.
2. He was drafted as a "very big" bottom age kid who by rights should have been drafted last year.
3. Obviously as a 17/18 year old whose body is still developing his muscles are struggling to cope....let his body mature and these niggles will diasappear.

Kane Johnson was also VERY prone to hamstrings but he was managed well and hardly has problems now.


Hentschell goes down and who have we got as a KPP coming thru......no-one folks unless Stevens or Bock are going to be our forward saviour.

Recruit a KPP in this draft and it'll be 3 years to get him to start playing reasonable footy......which also says why after 2 years do you consider Gibson a lost cause.

I think we'll have to trade for a KPP BUT if Smith can stay on our list for 5 years surely Gibson can get 4 years

I think we are about to feel the impact of Fergus' daparture. With Hentschel gone for at least next season, and Gibson being a fair way off, next year we will feel just how much of a loss Fergus Watts will be

 

[Crow-mo]

with our KPP issues, surely a young (very) guy like Gibson can get another year to show himself?

 

[WaynesWorld19]

I think we are about to feel the impact of Fergus' daparture. With Hentschel gone for at least next season, and Gibson being a fair way off, next year we will feel just how much of a loss Fergus Watts will be

Thinking the same myself due to the timeframe it takes to develop one and the fact we didn't replace a KPP with another has certainly cost us.

Although the issue only really gets highlighted because of Hentschell.

The well though is well and truly dry of KPP

 

[Portia]

You could trade for Damon White

 

[WaynesWorld19]

You could trade for Damon White

Following last years near trade could I suggest he probably signed a two year contract??

 

[Macca19]

Very very very harsh on Gibson. Everyone was over the moon on here when you drafted him. Was gonna be the KPP grunt gorilla you really needed. Now hes a complete write off with barely a good word to say about him? Very harsh.

Even if he has had a number of injuries, a lot of young players go through that. Ive seen Gibson play twice and twice I was extremely impressed with his ability to read the play, his size and his pace.

I reckon it could be one decision that may bite you on the arse if you get rid of him. I think hes definately one to perservere with for at least another year. He has more going for him than Jericho.

Id also still like to see some sort of proof that players must be on the list for two years when drafted. Seems to be one of these common knowledge rules that everyone brings out each off season but really seems to be more of an urban myth. At the end of last season Fremantle dropped Toby Stribling after just one season on their list.

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

Our current kpp options for next year:

Obst - miles off.

McGregor - Workhouse. Gives 110% but not many tricks in the bag.

Bock - See Kenny.

Perrie - see Kenny.

Rutten - With the loss of Trent, he is now our premier kpp. A very important cog in our line up. Here's hoping he can reagin his 2005 form and CONSISTNCY for finals.

Stevens - Has been a big suprise this year. But ultimately only a second tier kpp.

Gibson - Injury prone but worth another year.

Out of our starting kpp's, only one plays better footy as a forward than a backman ( Perrie ). We have plenty of options for the backline but we deperately need another tall forward. It's a pity Meesen is going becuase he could have been a possible option as a tall forward, given his supposed agility.

I think we need to draft 3 kpp's and 2 GENUINE Midfielders this year and then rookie 2 kpp's and 2 geuine midfielders.

I also think Bonaddocio maybe retained, depending on his formin the next 2 weeks. The balls in his court.

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

You could trade for Damon White

No thanks. That is one trade i'm glad we didn't do. In hindsight, the fact that we were going to do the trade in the first place scares the hell out of me.

 

[Macca19]

I think Griffen will definatley be kept on your list as well. Hes always been a project player. He has a lot of raw talent. Considering the size of him when the public first saw him (a human likeness to dental floss), hes put on quite a bit of bulk. Another year should see that improve as well.

However, it probably is entirely dependent on the Meeson situation, as others have said.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Springy, Bonnaddio is gone IMHO. One good game in a season of football is just not enough to warrant promotion to the main list. We would get a better player in return if we decided to trade for a KPP from another club for a 3rd rounder.

One game doesn't make a career

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

I reckon it could be one decision that may bite you on the arse if you get rid of him. I think hes definately one to perservere with for at least another year. He has more going for him than Jericho.

I agree. He is also one of the few on our list that has an abundance of natural aggression.

As for Jericho, I see him as a Lonie or Fiora type but without the natural football ability.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

I think Griffen will definatley be kept on your list as well. Hes always been a project player. He has a lot of raw talent. Considering the size of him when the public first saw him (a human likeness to dental floss), hes put on quite a bit of bulk. Another year should see that improve as well.

However, it probably is entirely dependent on the Meeson situation, as others have said.

I disagree......two years and IMO he's still as skinny as a rake......another 2 years will he have put on any more weight????

I've seen Cameron Wood and IMO he has put on a lot more weight than Griffen

 

[Postman Pat]

Gibson might survive given Hentschel's injury.

Meesen is still up in the air and I agree that Jericho will be kept.

stiffy your keeping him to cover injuries right? yet he is gets more injured than the bulldogs team combined.

if we were to use him as a hentschel cover, we could probably rookie gibson, then promote him to the normal list and put trent on the LT injury list.

 

[Stiffy_18]

stiffy your keeping him to cover injuries right? yet he is gets more injured than the bulldogs team combined.

if we were to use him as a hentschel cover, we could probably rookie gibson, then promote him to the normal list and put trent on the LT injury list.

No I am not keeping him to cover Hentschel's injury. I am keeping him because I think he still has something to offer. People forget that he is still only 19. Thats the same age as Richard Douglas.

Gibson was a bottom age draftee and his potential is still there. I am sure with the collective brains and experience at the club, that we can manage the kid properly and get the best out of him. If it were up to me, I would keep him on for another 2 years. He is a big, heavy kid and his body will eventually catch up.

All I have simply said is that if it was a line ball decision on whether or not to keep Gibson, Hentschel's injury has, IMHO, swung the odds in his favour.

 

[Drummond]

Very very very harsh on Gibson. Everyone was over the moon on here when you drafted him. Was gonna be the KPP grunt gorilla you really needed. Now hes a complete write off with barely a good word to say about him? Very harsh.

Even if he has had a number of injuries, a lot of young players go through that. Ive seen Gibson play twice and twice I was extremely impressed with his ability to read the play, his size and his pace.

I reckon it could be one decision that may bite you on the arse if you get rid of him. I think hes definately one to perservere with for at least another year. He has more going for him than Jericho.

Id also still like to see some sort of proof that players must be on the list for two years when drafted. Seems to be one of these common knowledge rules that everyone brings out each off season but really seems to be more of an urban myth. At the end of last season Fremantle dropped Toby Stribling after just one season on their list.

I see Gibson whenever he plays, and there is no doubt there is plenty of talent on offer. He crashes the packs, makes a contest and brings the ball to the ground. He is extremely quick; a few weeks back he chased down Alwyn Davey. He can play forward and back, which is a good attribute.

However I know for a fact that the club is extremely concerned about his injuries and the lack of football he has been able to play. I personally would like to give him another year, but the AFC have their doubts.

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

Springy, Bonnaddio is gone IMHO. One good game in a season of football is just not enough to warrant promotion to the main list. We would get a better player in return if we decided to trade for a KPP from another club for a 3rd rounder.

One game doesn't make a career

I'm not sure about that Stiff. Who was the last 19 year old kpp, for either Port or the Crows, to kick 7 in a game in the SANFL in his first year?

 

[Stiffy_18]

I'm not sure about that Stiff. Who was the last 19 year old kpp, for either Port or the Crows, to kick 7 in a game in the SANFL in his first year?

And it was a one off. His other games are less than encouraging. In fact, he was dropped to reserves at one stage because his from wasn't up to it.

 

[Drummond]

I'm not sure about that Stiff. Who was the last 19 year old kpp, for either Port or the Crows, to kick 7 in a game in the SANFL in his first year?

Despite being very impressed by him on the weekend as he carved up the Legs, there is very little hope for him. The Weed was on FiveAA during the week and they mentioned whether he felt the Crows would keep him. He basically made it very clear that he is as good as gone; he said he is still a long way off becoming a quality player, and he is also extremely unfit. He said they sent him back to the reserves one day and he took 20 marks, he said in a few years he believes he will be a quality player, but still has a long way to go. And I heard from a Westies fan that he has already been told he is no longer required.