List Mgmt. List management for 2016

[pastmyprimus]

I've heard Jonas hasn't been offered a contract, suggesting he could be traded.

 

[Arsene Wenger]

I think you will find the coaching staff does actually see things like a lot of us do but are somewhat handcuffed by what they can say and do during season. Reason being it affects the value of players come off season - which in turn limits our ability to maximise our off season player movements.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

I think you will find the coaching staff does actually see things like a lot of us do but are somewhat handcuffed by what they can say and do during season. Reason being it affects the value of players come off season - which in turn limits our ability to maximise our off season player movements.

Is that from an insiders view, ie you have spoken to insiders, or are you guessing that's how they think?? If you are guessing, then I don't know how relevant that comment is.

 

[Arsene Wenger]

Is that from an insiders view, ie you have spoken to insiders, or are you guessing that's how they think?? If you are guessing, then I don't know how relevant that comment is.

its an opinion of mine... no more, no less.

 

[Doctor Feel]

Naturally we aren't giving any contracts to players until we know the lay of the trade/delist/draft land.

 

[OneGreatClub]

From The Advertiser last month;

"Injured Port Adelaide defender Tom Jonas is ignoring opportunities around the AFL to seek a new deal at Alberton.


Jonas, 25, today confirmed he has sought a new contract at Port Adelaide — and does not want to be at any rival AFL club"

Sigh, nobody wants to leave

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Sigh, nobody wants to leave

Isn't that a good thing?

 

[OneGreatClub]

Isn't that a good thing?

It really hasn't worked in our favour of late

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

It really hasn't worked in our favour of late

What do you mean? We offered some of them long term contracts, and they accepted because they were happy with the, and being at the, club. Dumb management by us, nothing to do with the happiness of players and their desire to stick around at the club.

 

[Jack Grange]

What do you mean? We offered some of them long term contracts, and they accepted because they were happy with the, and being at the, club. Dumb management by us, nothing to do with the happiness of players and their desire to stick around at the club.

REH does the contract of players have to be ratified by KT or others at board level? It just amazes me that we offered HH a 5 yr deal...I don't think I'm commenting based on hindsight but I just wonder what measures we have in place that scrutinises long term contracts.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

REH does the contract of players have to be ratified by KT or others at board level? It just amazes me that we offered HH a 5 yr deal...I don't think I'm commenting based on hindsight but I just wonder what measures we have in place that scrutinises long term contracts.

I don't know about the board but I know KT signs off on it. He would pass it onto the board but I don't know if they would or could block it.

Remember we have to pay 95% of the salary cap and the AFL base+ equal TV monies distributions at the moment covers about 98% of the salary cap figure for all clubs, before any additional distributions to the clubs. Sure players get paid outside the cap amounts and there are the Additional Service Agreements which also have to be paid 95% of that cap amount, which for the last 2 or 3 years has been set at 10% of the salary cap amount, and this can be payed by a sponsor / associate of the club and/or the club for promo type work.

So the club doesn't have a lot of room to move if the strategy a couple of years ago was, with board backing, that we have to offer our top line players longer term deals to stop being r*ped by free agency. The real important stuff for me if I was a board member, would be the out clauses in these long term deals and what the AFL and AFLPA allow and don't allow in out type clauses.

 

[Arsene Wenger]

REH does the contract of players have to be ratified by KT or others at board level? It just amazes me that we offered HH a 5 yr deal...I don't think I'm commenting based on hindsight but I just wonder what measures we have in place that scrutinises long term contracts.

Longer term deals are a consequence of efforts to ward off players considering leaving under Free Agency....

Players have all the power now.

 

[mightypowerrrr]

herald sun reporting we are interested in steel. We would love to get him, but saints are also interested. We have a higher draft pick them in each round though, of course we've got no second.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

herald sun reporting we are interested in steel. We would love to get him, but saints are also interested. We have a higher draft pick them in each round though, of course we've got no second.

Who is steel? A kid to be drafted or someone on a club's list?

 

[mightypowerrrr]

Who is steel? A kid to be drafted or someone on a club's list?

jack steel from gws, he was drafted in 2014

 

[Magus]

The only shocking thing about players being shopped around by the club is the fact that Ken didn't drop some of them when he had the oppurtunity.

If he doesn't see their future being at Port then why did he leave underperformers in the team for so long?

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

jack steel from gws, he was drafted in 2014

Is that Logan Austin's mate from ACT and the GWS academy?

 

[rumoursofwinter]

Is that Logan Austin's mate from ACT and the GWS academy?

Yes. Want. He's been linked to st Kilda.

 

[mightypowerrrr]

Is that Logan Austin's mate from ACT and the GWS academy?

yeh

 

[Alyx]

Who is steel? A kid to be drafted or someone on a club's list?

http://www.gwsgiants.com.au/player-profile/jack-steele

 

[OneGreatClub]

This kid:
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...n-in-port-adelaide-rooms-20160603-gpb51s.html
Steele and Austin played footy and cricket together from day dot, and have come through the Canberra ranks of Australian rules football to both be drafted in to the AFL in 2014.


Despite beginning their elite careers together in the GWS Giants academy, they were separated at the NAB Draft in which Steele went on to the Giants list as pick 24 and Austin was picked for Port Adelaide at 69.

Steele admits it was tough to go on without Logan when he wasn't picked up by the Giants, but he knew that they both had taken another step closer to making their dream a reality.

"We've obviously dreamed about playing AFL footy since we were pretty young, but never really thought it was a possibility until we started playing well in under 18's and got invited to the draft," Steele said.

"I was pretty shattered when he went to Port, especially when I found out that the Giants would have taken Logan if they had the next pick, but we both ended up on an AFL list and you can't complain about that."

 

[bacharach]

"I was pretty shattered when he went to Port, especially when I found out that the Giants would have taken Logan if they had the next pick, but we both ended up on an AFL list and you can't complain about that."

Oh well Jack, if the mountain won't come to Muhammad...

 

[shewho]

[QUOTE="OneGreatClub, post: 46]

"I was pretty shattered when he went to Port, especially when I found out that the Giants would have taken Logan if they had the next pick, but we both ended up on an AFL list and you can't complain about that."[/QUOTE]
Doesn't make sense. I thought GWS could simply have nominated him as an academy selection. They then could have matched Ports bid. But they didn't and at best would have rookie listed him.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

"I was pretty shattered when he went to Port, especially when I found out that the Giants would have taken Logan if they had the next pick, but we both ended up on an AFL list and you can't complain about that."
Doesn't make sense. I thought GWS could simply have nominated him as an academy selection. They then could have matched Ports bid. But they didn't and at best would have rookie listed him.

They used up all their picks with a Draft Index Value to trade/give away at the draft.

 

[PowerLil]

(begone HBFlankers 'r us),

Funny stuff