LIVE Federal Election Coverage 2016

[Happy Mastenator]

Kill all boomers.

One off cull of everyone above 65 would solve a lot of the worlds problems....

 

[Rotayjay]

This opinion article is a good read:

http://abc.net.au/news/2016-07-04/v...igns-were-there,-we-just-ignored-them/7566122

Three cheers for democracy, I say. The people won't stand for a return to the world of a hundred or a thousand years ago. A world where the minority at the top would earn almost all the riches and benefits of human endeavour, and the majority (who often work even harder) are left with the scraps. As my grandfather always said, 'Everyone gets one vote. The poor person at the bottom has the same say as the big boss at the top.'

 

[ManWithNoName]

One off cull of everyone above 65 would solve a lot of the worlds problems....

I might get an MCC Membership...

 

[Maggie5]

One off cull of everyone above 65 would solve a lot of the worlds problems....

You should at least let them reach retirement age and maybe one year of benefits, so cruel.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

You should at least let them reach retirement age and maybe one year of benefits, so cruel.

I'd reduce retirement age! Can retire at 64, one year to blow your savings and stimulate the economy before kicking the bucket. Can only pass on a max of $100k to each child and grandchild.

Vote 1: Happy Mastenator!

 

[Hawk Dork]

Retirement is 67
and will go to 70 if the libs win and can get it through the senate

 

[Maggie5]

I'd reduce retirement age! Can retire at 64, one year to blow your savings and stimulate the economy before kicking the bucket. Can only pass on a max of $100k to each child and grandchild.

Vote 1: Happy Mastenator!

I Imagine you would be pro Euthanasia then?

 

[Ratts of Tobruk]

In all seriousness, the Liberals are so divided does anyone think they really want to be in power? One third of them - at least - are programmed to criticise and they can do it up hill and down dale in Opposition without having to worry about the fact they've got few ideas to effectively improve Australian policy.

I suspect it was, and Shorten realised it was now or never, and rolled the dice.

Shorten is of Labor Right and Albanese Labor Left. The reason, I think, that Shorten got so much of the caucus vote last Labor election was because Gillard was of the left and MPs thought it was either the right's turn or else that Gillard's time in charge was evidence that the left aren't quite economically sharp enough. The departure of Lindsay Tanner I think was a big blow in that respect.

I'm sure some of the left thought as you do (that Shorten would get them part of the way and then it would be the left's turn again), but there's no way that was Labor's overall plan. The Labor Right is Hawke and Keating's patch - their most electable version. The left are emboldened after all the economic ****-ups we've had recently have shown the general public that economic liberalism has major problems, but the population hasn't shifted far enough to make it an electable option (see Corbyn and Sanders overseas).

Albanese was never a hope of taking over. Labor's stability means people are taking them seriously and looking at their policies. Policy is where Labor has done better than the Libs for almost a decade and so long as people look at that, they should romp it in IMO. No first term government has been dumped since 1931 or something. There's still a decent chance that may happen. Kim Carr, of Labor's left, 8pm on election night, was singing to the hills about how well Shorten had done. Those on the left may have been thinking they could challenge if the result was bad, but it was good. That's democracy.

 

[WatsamattaU]

Counting resumes at 11:00 am

 

[BIRDBRAIN]

Retirement is 67
and will go to 70 if the libs win and can get it through the senate

Once I've invested enough money retirement will be whenever I want.

 

[Hawk Dork]

Bully for you but
Interest rates and growth say otherwise

There will be lots of old poor people living on the dole for a few more years though

 

[Maggie5]

An interesting point to me is that if the Libs weren't in Coalition, they couldn't govern in their own right and now that the Nats may have gained an extra seat, either a new position needs to be created or someone will be dropped.
Fun times ahead in politics I think.

 

[pazza]

An interesting point to me is that if the Libs weren't in Coalition, they couldn't govern in their own right and now that the Nats may have gained an extra seat, either a new position needs to be created or someone will be dropped.
Fun times ahead in politics I think.

Exactly.

The election of Drum creates a problem for whoever the Liberal leader is.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

I Imagine you would be pro Euthanasia then?

A lovely dinner and a bottle of red and a couple of pills. It's good for Australia.

Please note i'd have exemptions for myself and family members (of my choosing). Not all are created equal after all.

I imagine this could be a hard sell.

 

[Maggie5]

Exactly.

The election of Drum creates a problem for whoever the Liberal leader is.

I just find the Libs front bench so uninspiring, seriously lack any talent, not much on the back bench either.

 

[Maggie5]

A lovely dinner and a bottle of red and a couple of pills. It's good for Australia.

Please note i'd have exemptions for myself and family members (of my choosing). Not all are created equal after all.

I imagine this could be a hard sell.

The 'like' is only for the bottle of red.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

I just find the Libs front bench so uninspiring, seriously lack any talent, not much on the back bench either.

The trouble with the libs is that they were pulled to far right by a decade of Howard, and Abbott took them even further right, that the people they invested in and gave opportunity to are all massive douche canoes without any genuine talent, and are all extremely unlikable outside of their base.

 

[Glacier]

that the people they invested in and gave opportunity to are all massive douche canoes without any genuine talent

Julie Bishop

 

[Maggie5]

Julie Bishop

Why did you stop at one? Abetz, Dutton, Andrews, Brandis, Morrison (where is he incidentally), Cormann, Hunt, Chrissy, etc etc. Not going to name the Nats, headache time.

 

[stormee]

I just find the Libs front bench so uninspiring, seriously lack any talent, not much on the back bench either.

There's a few good people but not many. Too many ideologues. Angus Taylor should be promoted to the front bench, along with a few other good (younger) talents, but the cupboard is fairly bare.

I'll admit that I voted lib in both houses this election (it was a close run thing) but if they move Turnbull on and replace him with a more conservative PM then I'll be left wondering why I didn't vote labor. The conservative elements of the party are a cancer on it IMO, I was almost swayed towards Labor for the first time ever this election and if the Libs keep moving right I think by the next election I will be.

 

[Glacier]

Why did you stop at one? Abetz, Dutton, Andrews, Brandis, Morrison (where is he incidentally), Cormann, Hunt, Chrissy, etc etc. Not going to name the Nats, headache time.

Probably because she is the one who seems to escape most scrutiny
She made a fool of herself on Saturday night and again has escaped scrutiny over her remarks

 

[pazza]

The first thing the Libs can do is move the nutjobs away from positions..so out goes Brandis, Abetz....

The younger talent thing could be the go.

Move Sukkar into a more senior role and Tony Smith.
Make Drum Sports Minister.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

There's a few good people but not many. Too many ideologues. Angus Taylor should be promoted to the front bench, along with a few other good (younger) talents, but the cupboard is fairly bare.

I'll admit that I voted lib in both houses this election (it was a close run thing) but if they move Turnbull on and replace him with a more conservative PM then I'll be left wondering why I didn't vote labor. The conservative elements of the party are a cancer on it IMO, I was almost swayed towards Labor for the first time ever this election and if the Libs keep moving right I think by the next election I will be.

The right think their policies (as overseen by Howard) delivered success and good times to Australia, when in reality they squandered the unprecedented wealth generated during that time thanks to the mining and housing boom, and selling off of assets, and left us holding the can when the economy turned to shit.

 

[Hawk Dork]

his unaffordable tax cuts and middle class welfare have left a hole in revenue for ever

but that would have been his plan

 

[Gough]

As long as the Libs hang their hat on Howard they can't move forward as they need to. History will be far kinder to the Rudd/Gillard government, even Paul Kelly admitted it was a success, than the Howard years. It's taken less than ten years to see Howard's alleged legacy to be pulled to pieces.