List Mgmt. National Draft 2020 discussion

[guruisatiger]

Liam Kolar

Height195cmWeight82kgCurrent TeamNorthern KnightsBirthdayApril 23, 2002


Image Credit: Andy Brownbill/News Corp

POSITION: Key Forward/Wing
DRAFT ANALYSIS: “A raw multi-sport athlete with high scope for improvement, Kolar looms as a prospective bolter in this year’s draft pool.” – Michael Alvaro
Having transitioned to football from a soccer and athletics background, Northern Knights prospect Liam Kolar has enjoyed a steep rise in his short career. The 195cm athlete made the most of a late call-up on NAB League debut last year, showing glimpses of his potential up forward and even rotating through the ruck. His form was enough to warrant playing out the remaining two games with Northern, but a couple of strong preseason outings in 2020 truly cemented Kolar’s spot on the AFL Draft radar. The 18-year-old’s testing data would have turned heads, and makes for a solid base for him to improve his football upon. Though unable to show his wares on-field as a top-ager, Kolar earned a National Combine invite and is a talent to keep an eye on.
STRENGTHS:

• Vertical leap
• Athleticism
• Endurance
• Versatility
• Scope

IMPROVEMENTS:

• Raw/strength
• Football craft

Despite the small sample size provided, it is clear that Kolar boasts all the athletic attributes which recruiters value. He ticks every box; as a lead-up key forward he is quick off the mark and has a sizeable vertical leap, while also proving agile enough to operate further afield and impact at ground level. His endurance base, highlighted by preseason results of 6:09 across 2km and 21.7 in the yo-yo test, also suits the modern game in a range of roles. It ultimately plays into Kolar’s versatility, with the potential to utilise that running capacity and speed up on a wing once his game sense improves. His effort to come into Northern’s side so late last season, adjust to the rigours, and compete against players who had been out there consistently is also testament to his elite athletic attributes – not to mention a high rate of improvement.
Outgoing Knights talent manager Rhy Gieschen identified Kolar as one to watch during preseason, noting his unique all-round athleticism and raw potential. One particular moment in preseason stood out, playing against reigning the NAB League premier, Oakleigh. In a Northern win, Kolar dashed forward with multiple running bounces, burned an opponent and thumped home one of his two goals from 50 metres out. Having returned a relatively low output in his initial Under 18s stint, such eye-catching plays are what make those at the top level take notice.
While he would prove somewhat of a speculative choice come draft time, Kolar could really be anything if provided the right support. The next and most significant step in his development will be to hone his football knowledge and craft, things which typically come with experience. After all, it is all well and good being able to run, jump, and weave, but you must be able to play the game above all else. Kolar has adjusted well to the elite Under 18s pathway, so should have confidence in his ability to maintain that trend as he climbs the ranks. Whether Kolar develops into a modern day centre half-forward, wingman, or mobile utility, there is plenty for AFL clubs to work with.
There are still a few things Kolar may look to enhance as he improves his overall craft. Somewhat rangy and lightly built, his one-on-one positioning and strength will be important for key position roles, while also allowing him to utilise his athleticism more effectively. His speed off the mark and vertical leap would be an unstoppable combination when presenting at the ball, but Kolar is sometimes caught behind or in a spot where he is unable to leap at the ball. These are things a few preseasons and experience at the top level will easily fix. Understanding the right leading patterns and when to take the game on from further afield will also come more naturally to him over time, hopefully aiding his overall output and consistency in the process.
DRAFT PROJECTION: Late-Rookie
It would take a brave club to back in the Northern Knights product with just three games of NAB League football under his belt, though Kolar’s elite athletic base across each department has many high on his potential. Having earned a National Combine invite, Kolar is clearly in the frame as a draft chance and has piqued the interest of recruiters. His lack of runs on the board has him pitted as a very late or rookie possibility at this point, and he would be a long-term choice made on upside. Given the NAB League’s extension to an Under-19 competition, Kolar could also be one to set the Victorian ranks alight should he miss out in 2020.
HIGHLIGHTED TESTING RESULTS:
Preseason:
Running Vertical Jump (R/L) – 83cm/82cm
Speed (20m) – 3.04 seconds
Endurance (yo-yo) – 21.7

Liam Kolar

afl.draftcentral.com.au

Thanks for that most appreciated

 

[tony__montana]

Yeah I don't think you can win a flag without superstars. We don't have any under 25 atm so once ours are gone in a few years will be the real test. If we can somehow bring one or two in now then we might avoid doing a Hawthorn.

Geelong added Selwood to an already ridic list in 2007 and that set them up for another decade.

takes a while to become a superstar but I reckon we have 2 bonafide candidates on their way in Bolton and Balta. Stack for mine is the most talented player on our list, if his head is right he could be anything. I think we’re doing the right thing continually going to the draft I’m sure a few more will keep developing.

 

[guruisatiger]

And we will pick him. How can you be so confident?

Im not ,I just have a gut feel he will be a tiger

 

[Crumpet_avenger]

Im not ,I just have a gut feel he will be a tiger

What's your gut feel on the quaddie numbers at Ballarat today?

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

Love Stacky could really super charge our run for a 2021 GF...very pleased he has a trainer helping him out with his fitness...
KId really could be anything...super talented...singer...dancer...player...mejia move over snags!
Post game/career otherwise could end up with Relton running stories about how I couda been a champ!

 

[tony__montana]

Love Stacky could really super charge our run for a 2021 GF...very pleased he has a trainer helping him out with his fitness...
KId really could be anything...super talented...singer...dancer...player...mejia move over snags!
Post game/career otherwise could end up with Relton running stories about how I couda been a champ!

Stacky with a personal trainer, Ross with a running coach to improve his running gait- how driven is this group

 

[THE_GUN]

Stacky with a personal trainer, Ross with a running coach to improve his running gait- how driven is this group

Dusty with Danger following him

 

[Frustrated Tiger]

What's your gut feel on the quaddie numbers at Ballarat today?

Certainly would have helped....

 

[Frustrated Tiger]

Stacky with a personal trainer, Ross with a running coach to improve his running gait- how driven is this group

Heard the club couldn't find him for 2 weeks..."allegedly"

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

Heard the club couldn't find him for 2 weeks..."allegedly"

Bet they had the same trouble with Dusty...

 

[GoTigers2015]

Not sure we should use pick 17 to select Eddie Ford. A highly skilled forward with no tank reminds me of a former first round selection we picked up in 2013.

 

[GoTigers2015]

I hope O'Driscoll slides to our first round pick

 

[DeLaCon]

O'Driscoll is a big chanceat our pick. Hardwick and our recruiters place the 'ability to compete' almost at the top of our list of criteria.

 

[GoTigers2015]

O'Driscoll is a big chanceat our pick. Hardwick and our recruiters place the 'ability to compete' almost at the top of our list of criteria.

Love Sandgropers also

 

[tigs2010]

I hope O'Driscoll slides to our first round pick

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Knightmare has him going 2 picks before us so should be close. Has Baldwin to us in 2nd round then a bid on MJ

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

I hope O'Driscoll slides to our first round pick

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Needs to bulk up on Souvlakis...get Stacky to be his mentor at Tigerland!

 

[GoTigers2015]

Needs to bulk up on Souvlakis...get Stacky to be his mentor at Tigerland!

Kebabs

 

[Phar Ace]

takes a while to become a superstar but I reckon we have 2 bonafide candidates on their way in Bolton and Balta. Stack for mine is the most talented player on our list, if his head is right he could be anything. I think we’re doing the right thing continually going to the draft I’m sure a few more will keep developing.

That and the occasional Free Agent because apart from the $$$ to attact it's a free hit and destination successful Clubs have to do this while the sun shines!

 

[Phar Ace]

Interesting that some recruiters don't see him as a first rounder. Personally I have reservations about a tall prospect who predominantly plays as a flanker / utility rather than KPP. Unsure how well that'll translate to AFL level

Be stunned if he (Cox) was passed over 19 times (even 10). He's got 'it' - already does some things others don't when handling the ball and he just needs a great development path

 

[tiggywigs]

Apparently Beatson (the Swans list manager) is disappointed that his proposed change to the draft bidding system isn't gaining much "traction".

Why Swans are calling for an overhaul of draft bidding system

List manager Kinnear Beatson is proposing a change to the current system to prevent clubs bidding on players purely to force a rival to select them

www.afl.com.au

Maybe Beatson needs to consider the possibility that no one is interested because it is an extremely dumb idea.

In essence, he is saying that a club should get a potentially massive increase in their place in the draft order because another club places a higher value on one of their academy players than they do.

And they want another player who isn't otherwise within their reach.

Huh?

He justifies the change with a "fake bidding" red herring.

In other words, he reckons clubs with high picks are forcing other clubs with lower picks to use their low picks to counter bid on highly rated academy players.

Now, maybe I'm stupid, but I always thought there is a very strong disincentive for fake bidding - i.e. you have to take the player if there is no counter bid.

Crikey. Imagine that? A system that forces clubs to pay close to the pick's true perceived market place value. (No one is forcing a club to bid on their academy players.)

It seems to me that the real justification for Beatson's idea is the notion that a club 'owns' academy players (because of their investment) and that they should get the value that 'other' clubs put on them (if it's greater than their own).

He doesn't acknowledge the benefit that the system already gives them for that investment (i.e. first dibs, often on high draft picks).

Or the fact that his idea works directly against the league's equalisation policy. (It automatically steals picks from higher pick takers.)

It's not even clear that the idea is practical.

For example, is he proposing that a team get the next draft bid every time they don't counter bid on an academy player (whom they may not have bid on at all anyway)? Really?

As far as traction goes, this idea never got out of the bog.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

Liam Kolar

Height195cmWeight82kgCurrent TeamNorthern KnightsBirthdayApril 23, 2002


Image Credit: Andy Brownbill/News Corp

POSITION: Key Forward/Wing
DRAFT ANALYSIS: “A raw multi-sport athlete with high scope for improvement, Kolar looms as a prospective bolter in this year’s draft pool.” – Michael Alvaro
Having transitioned to football from a soccer and athletics background, Northern Knights prospect Liam Kolar has enjoyed a steep rise in his short career. The 195cm athlete made the most of a late call-up on NAB League debut last year, showing glimpses of his potential up forward and even rotating through the ruck. His form was enough to warrant playing out the remaining two games with Northern, but a couple of strong preseason outings in 2020 truly cemented Kolar’s spot on the AFL Draft radar. The 18-year-old’s testing data would have turned heads, and makes for a solid base for him to improve his football upon. Though unable to show his wares on-field as a top-ager, Kolar earned a National Combine invite and is a talent to keep an eye on.
STRENGTHS:

• Vertical leap
• Athleticism
• Endurance
• Versatility
• Scope

IMPROVEMENTS:

• Raw/strength
• Football craft

Despite the small sample size provided, it is clear that Kolar boasts all the athletic attributes which recruiters value. He ticks every box; as a lead-up key forward he is quick off the mark and has a sizeable vertical leap, while also proving agile enough to operate further afield and impact at ground level. His endurance base, highlighted by preseason results of 6:09 across 2km and 21.7 in the yo-yo test, also suits the modern game in a range of roles. It ultimately plays into Kolar’s versatility, with the potential to utilise that running capacity and speed up on a wing once his game sense improves. His effort to come into Northern’s side so late last season, adjust to the rigours, and compete against players who had been out there consistently is also testament to his elite athletic attributes – not to mention a high rate of improvement.
Outgoing Knights talent manager Rhy Gieschen identified Kolar as one to watch during preseason, noting his unique all-round athleticism and raw potential. One particular moment in preseason stood out, playing against reigning the NAB League premier, Oakleigh. In a Northern win, Kolar dashed forward with multiple running bounces, burned an opponent and thumped home one of his two goals from 50 metres out. Having returned a relatively low output in his initial Under 18s stint, such eye-catching plays are what make those at the top level take notice.
While he would prove somewhat of a speculative choice come draft time, Kolar could really be anything if provided the right support. The next and most significant step in his development will be to hone his football knowledge and craft, things which typically come with experience. After all, it is all well and good being able to run, jump, and weave, but you must be able to play the game above all else. Kolar has adjusted well to the elite Under 18s pathway, so should have confidence in his ability to maintain that trend as he climbs the ranks. Whether Kolar develops into a modern day centre half-forward, wingman, or mobile utility, there is plenty for AFL clubs to work with.
There are still a few things Kolar may look to enhance as he improves his overall craft. Somewhat rangy and lightly built, his one-on-one positioning and strength will be important for key position roles, while also allowing him to utilise his athleticism more effectively. His speed off the mark and vertical leap would be an unstoppable combination when presenting at the ball, but Kolar is sometimes caught behind or in a spot where he is unable to leap at the ball. These are things a few preseasons and experience at the top level will easily fix. Understanding the right leading patterns and when to take the game on from further afield will also come more naturally to him over time, hopefully aiding his overall output and consistency in the process.
DRAFT PROJECTION: Late-Rookie
It would take a brave club to back in the Northern Knights product with just three games of NAB League football under his belt, though Kolar’s elite athletic base across each department has many high on his potential. Having earned a National Combine invite, Kolar is clearly in the frame as a draft chance and has piqued the interest of recruiters. His lack of runs on the board has him pitted as a very late or rookie possibility at this point, and he would be a long-term choice made on upside. Given the NAB League’s extension to an Under-19 competition, Kolar could also be one to set the Victorian ranks alight should he miss out in 2020.
HIGHLIGHTED TESTING RESULTS:
Preseason:
Running Vertical Jump (R/L) – 83cm/82cm
Speed (20m) – 3.04 seconds
Endurance (yo-yo) – 21.7

Liam Kolar

afl.draftcentral.com.au

Might not be nothing in it.
But if you say Kolar out loud when your pissed it does sound like Balta.

 

[cairo tiger]

no for a fact ross has a running coach as tigers have said he needs to pick this up.

 

[cairo tiger]

no for a fact ross has a running coach as tigers have said he needs to pick this up.

No his coach also , really good this bloke.

 

[THE_GUN]

Might not be nothing in it.
But if you say Kolar out loud when your pissed it does sound like Balta.

Sydney will be doing everything it can to get Kolar

 

[GoTigers2015]

A possible scenario is that GWS bid on Collingwood NGA prospect Reef McInnes @18 (Pick 15 slides to 18 due to earlier bids on other NGA prospects)
Collingwood if matched would need 788 points and would see pick 19 (948 points) slide back to pick 59. Therefore Collingwood would probably want to trade out pick 19 to avoid that happening.

Collingwood trade pick 19 to Richmond for future 2021 1st round pick
Collingwood match bid with later picks
GWS selects player with pick 19
Richmond trades pick 21 to Collingwood for Collingwood's 2021 future 1st round pick
Richmond select player with pick 20.

18 Reef McInnes
19 GWS selection
20 Richmond selection plus Collingwood 2021 1st round pick
21 Collingwood selection plus Richmond 2021 1st round pick