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Mega Thread Nick Daicos - Can he be the GTWEB? Part 2

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Of course he's going to say that.

But I'd rather be 6 points down with 9 minutes to go and all the momentum, than 18 points down with 8 minutes to go.
Maybe if your ‘GOAT’ had one kick, yes just one in the last 1/4 you may have got close. Too busy running around trying to get an easy kick and couldn’t even do that😂😂
 

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N.Daicos has been in 2 prelim sides and a premiership team. By coaches votes in finals he has finished:

Outside the top 50 in 2022
Equal 11th in 2023
Outside the top 17* in 2025 (1 match to come)

He's had a few decent finals but is yet to really dominate in that setting. The closest he came was against the worst performing finalist this century (lost all 8 quarters at home) Adelaide.
 
The other thing with this list is that we saw some of these players have some incomplete seasons early on, meaning they were much older than Daicos by the time they hit the 85 to 90 game figure.

Fyfe, Rowell, Cripps...
Tis only 22 v 23, so still comparable IMHO

Not comparing a 26-27 year old to a 20 year old.
 
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13 of the top 20 on my list in the OP are sans Brownlow.
Here’s a question for ya, your OP
The Daicos effect
I think I’m right and Mcrae setup the team to build your gameplan around maximising one players opportunities in the midfield.
Daicos.
The unintended consequence of Pendlebury suffering a soft tissue injury (I haven’t even gotten into that yet) resulted in you not being able to execute the gameplan that the entire team list was built around and resulted in Daicos having arguably his least impactful game for the year, in a preliminary final.
Do you think The Daicos effect on your coaches limited your clubs ability to win a Preliminary Final?
 
Still waiting to hear an alternate term for a player who is 20% clear of the #2 player in the history of the game for Average Brownlow Votes per game?

I think you're being a bit harsh on Nick. His average is still rising. It should get well over 20% clear of the next best.
 
Here’s a question for ya, your OP
The Daicos effect
I think I’m right and Mcrae setup the team to build your gameplan around maximising one players opportunities in the midfield.
Daicos.
The unintended consequence of Pendlebury suffering a soft tissue injury (I haven’t even gotten into that yet) resulted in you not being able to execute the gameplan that the entire team list was built around and resulted in Daicos having arguably his least impactful game for the year, in a preliminary final.
Do you think The Daicos effect on your coaches limited your clubs ability to win a Preliminary Final?
The resounding answer is NO.

On many fronts.
 
N.Daicos has been in 2 prelim sides and a premiership team. By coaches votes in finals he has finished:

Outside the top 50 in 2022
Equal 11th in 2023
Outside the top 17* in 2025 (1 match to come)

He's had a few decent finals but is yet to really dominate in that setting. The closest he came was against the worst performing finalist this century (lost all 8 quarters at home) Adelaide
Back to your focus on finals in his debut season (whilst also pretending to argue they should be excluded)

And then using a season where he returned from a knee injury so didn't play all finals.

You're quite brilliant 🤣
 
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N.Daicos has been in 2 prelim sides and a premiership team. By coaches votes in finals he has finished:

Outside the top 50 in 2022
Equal 11th in 2023
Outside the top 17* in 2025 (1 match to come)

He's had a few decent finals but is yet to really dominate in that setting. The closest he came was against the worst performing finalist this century (lost all 8 quarters at home) Adelaide.

Finals is when it truly matters most. Its the ultimate test - the truest test.
 

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I think you're being a bit harsh on Nick. His average is still rising. It should get well over 20% clear of the next best.
Indeed.

We're all well aware his average is detrimentally impacted by an 11 vote rookie season.

What can he peak at?

Where will he end up once his career is done?

It's going to be an amazing watch!
 
Mr.Disengenous at it again.

Back to your focus on finals in his debut season (whilst also pretending to argue they should be excluded)

And then using a season where he returned from a knee injury so didn't play all finals.

You're quite brilliant 🤣
Should there be special dispensation?
 
Here’s a question for ya, your OP
The Daicos effect
I think I’m right and Mcrae setup the team to build your gameplan around maximising one players opportunities in the midfield.
Daicos.
The unintended consequence of Pendlebury suffering a soft tissue injury (I haven’t even gotten into that yet) resulted in you not being able to execute the gameplan that the entire team list was built around and resulted in Daicos having arguably his least impactful game for the year, in a preliminary final.
Do you think The Daicos effect on your coaches limited your clubs ability to win a Preliminary Final?

Totally off the mark. It was the other coaches suffering the Daicos effect which set up our season. For a big chunk of the season, they had an ultra defensive tagger on him at stoppage, which meant we could control positioning and make the opposition midfield unbalanced and our lesser mids like Long and current Sidey were really effective.

Once teams dropped th ultra defensive tag, our midfield struggled.

Then in the prelim, Pendles got injured, an underdone JDG copped a knock and was dead wood and Long and Sidey were really ordinary. We were too shallow and smashed by a really good deep midfield. The game plan held up - the goals we copped were contested with good numbers but they were better in the contest and scored. The game plan gave us some good opportunities in transition but we weren't good enough to take them.

Our Prelim was like Adelaide in the finals - our midfield wasn't good enough so the opposition controlled the game - you can't have one good bloke surrounded by battlers and get it done against good teams in finals - we needed Pendles and a firing Jordy to have a chance to keep the game on our terms against a team as good as they are around the footy.
 

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Indeed.

We're all well aware his average is detrimentally impacted by an 11 vote rookie season.

What can he peak at?

Where will he end up once his career is done?

It's going to be an amazing watch!
Just looked it up. Bunton didn't debut until he was a year older than Nick, which means we really shouldn't include Nick's first year in a comparative average. So really it's better to use an adjusted average, which means he's 40% above Bunton.

Then once you factor in the era and most of Bunton's opponents were heavy drinking smokers who didn't train, you get a new average of ....
 
Should there be special dispensation?
In my opinion, no.

If you are good enough to be arguably the best Rising Star of all time, you should be good enough to sneak a coaches vote in 1 of 3 finals.

If you are good enough to be top 3 (or winning) Leage MVP, Brownlow and Coaches Association awards then you should be good enough to dominate finals from 5 attempts in those years.

His H&A form has outdone his finals output by a considerable margin overall. So the next step is for him to really rip some finals apart once his game style suits that setting more (or he adds more strings to his bow).
 
Nick is obviously a great player and doesn't do anything on field that warrants the hate he gets but what he can't help is the ridiculous fawning from commentators whose job is to commentate on the game as it unfolds rather than openly cheer and reinforce how big of a star he is every time he has a possession or is in the vicinity of the ball.
 
Nick is obviously a great player and doesn't do anything on field that warrants the hate he gets but what he can't help is the ridiculous fawning from commentators whose job is to commentate on the game as it unfolds rather than openly cheer and reinforce how big of a star he is every time he has a possession or is in the vicinity of the ball.
That could very well be the longest sentence in the history of BigFooty...
 

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