Except it was bruhns man also and bruhn didn’t do anything while in there himself.
If our 4th year mids we expect to stand up and take the mantle to lead us forward are blaming 19yo mids with no experience then let’s just wave the 24 white flag
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If our 4th year mids we expect to stand up and take the mantle to lead us forward are blaming 19yo mids with no experience then let’s just wave the 24 white flag
Lacking A grade elite mids coming through. Clark probably the exception
I agree but I think Scott panicked a bit over our lack of class exiting defence. The injuries didn't help as he got lost in "plug and play" sub mode where he did a bit of this and that. From memory he also missed some games where our midfield was at it's most depleted.
But I certainly hope he is given full reign to make a midfield role his own - primarily at stoppages. Then he can still act as an outside midfielder on the wing when we rotate others through. He can offer plenty in both of those roles - that have a lot more overlap than defence/midfield.
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Not if Ollie Henry is back in though?
Dempsey looks good, so it would have to be OH plus Dempsey not Neale. We would be very top heavy if we do play both Neale and Dempsey with OH. Who knows what happens when Rohan gets fit again.
Everybody seems to like Clark's game, so it seems he will play rd 1.
It is interesting that all of Bews, Kolo, Tuohy and MOC have been played; MAYBE Tuohy gets the sub role. I can't see Mannagh starting ahead of these players for rd 1. Should we lose, changes for sure.
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Watching Holmes doing interviews, and his happiness with the group, I'd be stunned if he wants to leave. Looks like leadership material at Geelong.
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Bruhn, Holmes, Clark and Conway are all tracking to be a graders, if not very close to it
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I worry about anyone who purports to understand ruck infringements.
Depends on what you consider an A grader. I don't know how you can say Clark and Conway are tracking that way. Bruhn may become a B grader. Who knows if Holmes will be here next year. I still think we are short of high level midfield talent.
I’d say only Holmes has shown A grade potential up to this point.
Clark will be nominated for a rising star award this year. Kid will be a star.
Dempsey I like a lot, but this year has too many people ahead of him (unless we get ravaged by injuries) Next year will be his breakout year.
Holmes off half back is genius, looked a genuine A grader, will be interesting to see how they handle the inevitable defence forward tag he’ll get.
Neale will make it as he’s an athletic beast… just don’t know if it will be as the key forward.
Dempsey I like a lot, but this year has too many people ahead of him (unless we get ravaged by injuries) Next year will be his breakout year.
Holmes off half back is genius, looked a genuine A grader, will be interesting to see how they handle the inevitable defence forward tag he’ll get.
Neale will make it as he’s an athletic beast… just don’t know if it will be as the key forward.
dazbroncos .... what was your thoughts on Shannon Neale?
Not sure I agree on bruhn, and not entirely sure holmes will be a midfielder. But I love your optimism on it.
I have high hopes for Conway from the little I have seen.. but it is obviously very little which puts an a steric next to it. Bruhn really disappointed me in the practice match. He did very little the first half when Merritt and parish were tearing us apart in the middle. I was looking to him to See if he would take the game up to them yet he didn’t.
I would agree he is tracking to be a solid B grader at the moment, much similar to a Mitch Duncan career. Never quite an AA level, but a good solid reliable player.
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You don't have to worry about the umps then.......
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Put it this way I’m more confident in Bruhn than the others and the way I see players as A Graders is like this.
Stars of the competition
Bont, Daicos, Gulden
A graders
Steele, Neale, Cripps
To become an a grade ruckman is quite easy, just don’t get injured and take intercept marks
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Bruhn had 6 CB attendances for the first half. Goldy was giving Stanley a bath.
In the last quarter Bruhn had 6 attendances for 9 disposals and funny enough Goldy only attended 2
That in my opinion says more about Stanley than it does how Bruhn went against 2 experienced midfield stars
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Holmes seems like the classic winger; Riccardi-esque? Although Danger, who says too much at times, likens him to C Judd.
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Seriously? If you're not sure about Holmes being a midfielder then there are about 10 guys in the game's history who you would've been sure about being a midfielder at his age.
Holmes has Rozee type potential. The key word there is potential. But that's probably about his ceiling and would be an AA midfielder.
Bruhn was wasted as a small forward (a role he wasn't that suited to) for his first two seasons so it's a little early to say what his level will be as a midfielder. Holmes at least has had 2-3 seasons as an outside midfielder where we've had more time to assess him.
But if I was going to guess on Bruhn... somewhere between Atkins and Guthrie level. You can build a good midfield with these types of players. We probably need to recruit one more at peak age though.
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Thought Clark was excellent, much better than I expected. Agree he lost a few clearances badly in the first quarter (also went to ground unnecessarily a few times overcommitting to chasing opponents who had won the clearance) but he improved in that area throughout the game. Otherwise very clean, good vision.
Would happily see Clark and Dempsey in the 22 but not convinced either play round 1 - the MC is pretty conservative - but should play more than they miss. Rohan, Tuohy, Duncan wouldn't want to have and patches of bad form.
Would happily see Clark and Dempsey in the 22 but not convinced either play round 1 - the MC is pretty conservative - but should play more than they miss. Rohan, Tuohy, Duncan wouldn't want to have and patches of bad form.
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As a 3rd year player last year he had about 100x the inside game of Riccardi.
Look back at any AA midfielder of the last 10 years and ask what they were doing in their 3rd year in the system. Holmes is light-years ahead of most.
Just for Geelong what were Guthrie, Blicavs, Ablett, Bartel, Johnson, Chapman, Corey, etc doing as 20-21 year olds? Holmes has most of them covered by miles and miles as a midfielder at the same age.
He looks brilliant across HB is why
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This MC picked Jack Henry every game from his 2nd season. Same with Miers.
They picked Mullin and O'Connor after a handful of VFL games. They picked Dempsey a few games after stepping off a basketball court.
They picked Holmes for finals in his first year.
They twice rushed Sam Simpson back from injury for finals series.
They've dropped Parfitt, Menegola, Dahlhaus, Bews and O'Connor in the past 2 seasons
None of this suggests a match committee that is conservative.
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He was better in midfield yesterday. You don't waste a gun midfielder at half back.
If Holmes ends up a half back it's because we've developed one of the all-time great midfields and we don't need him there like what happened with Enright.
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