Rookie Draft

[Forzaport]

And Mitch Harvey and DBJ at 33 and 32. Winning.

 

[Adz2332]

I just look at it this way, most people had Battersby in the top 30 in the national draft!
People even voted for him to be taken with our first pick!

 

[Ebert80]

Hurley from Sturt about 5 or 6 years ago, was expected by some to be a 1st round pick in his year. Hes mainly played amateurs since.

Panos from Norwood was highly rated, but like Hourigan, under-sized. Panos was rookied, but in the main just been a solid SANFL footballer.

 

[RossFC]

Hurley from Sturt about 5 or 6 years ago, was expected by some to be a 1st round pick in his year. Hes mainly played amateurs since.
Panos from Norwood was highly rated, but like Hourigan, under-sized. Panos was rookied, but in the main just been a solid SANFL footballer.

I was a fan of Panos, bulldogs fans were protesting for him to get a game and the bulldogs refused to do so, they tried to ruin his career by playing him down back, which Panos knew he was being set up to fail.

edit: much like Nick Salter

 

[Malibu#27]

Can anyone tell me whether we had to put Flynn on the Rookie list proper or whether he could have remained on a separate international/alternate talent rookie list.

The reason I ask is it appears there is a mid December deadline to sign alternate talent rookies, so I'm trying to understand the benefits of putting Flynn on the rookie list proper ..... perhaps you cant upgrade an international rookie but can for a regular rookie ?

Edit: Found the rules: http://www.afl.com.au/afl-hq/the-afl-explained/rookie-players .. and it appears Flynn qualified as a category B rookie, so we may not have needed to put him on the main rookie list.

In addition to these six rookie-listed players, each club can include up to three additional players (now referred to as Category B rookies) on its Rookie List provided the player either:

...

IRISH ROOKIE PRE-SELECTION
Irish players can be signed directly to a club’s Rookie List under the International Player Rule and do not have to go through the draft. Previously, Irish players could not be listed as Category B rookies but took a spot on the main Rookie List.
Clubs can now list one Irish player as a Category B rookie but for each additional Irish player rookie listed, that player will be deemed to be a Category A rookie and the club will forfeit its last selection in the Rookie Draft for each additional player listed.

 

[Chrizzt]

Flynn isn't on the main rookie list. We can only have 4 category A rookies and they are Mutchell, Renouf, Gray, and Russell.

 

[Spadge]

According to the Tiser Port had Sam Russell in the top 35 players in the draft and we couldn't believe he was still there.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport...ager-sam-russell/story-fnia6ojc-1226769922493

Is Matt Rendell working for us now?

icantbelieveitsnotsamsiggins

 

[Malibu#27]

Flynn isn't on the main rookie list. We can only have 4 category A rookies and they are Mutchell, Renouf, Gray, and Russell.

I assume the 4 main rookies is because we have the two vets ?

In which case, my original question stands, why did we call out Flynn's name with selection (I note on Wiki at least its listed as an international rookie selection)... I assume its just protocol then ... even though we can still add another international rookie until mid December ?

 

[Ford Fairlane]

I assume the 4 main rookies is because we have the two vets ?

In which case, my original question stands, why did we call out Flynn's name with selection (I note on Wiki at least its listed as an international rookie selection)... I assume its just protocol then ... even though we can still add another international rookie until mid December ?

That vets thing has me a bit bamboozled. I think it used to be the case but according to the afl info prior to the draft it only depends on how many are on your main list. You can have a total of 44 players made up of 38 main list + 6 rookies, 39 + 5 or 40 + 4. If my sums are right we have 40 on the main list.

The international rookie read out seems to be an administrative direction. A few other clubs read out their international rookies too.

I think we can still add Venter under the 3 year rule. There was no deadline given for rookies under that rule as far as I could tell.

 

[Bicks]

Have you seen him kick, he will get his team mates seriously hurt by continuously putting them under rain makers.

Have you???

I've seen a fair bit of Matt play through the juniors and TAC and whilst he certainly isn't any Hamish Hartlett by foot, he is nowhere near as bad as some would have you believe, perhaps lacks a bit of penetration, more to do with his fitness base as he has never done a full pre-season due to cricket commitments.Matt has represented Victoria [wicketkeeper/batsman] at both schoolboys and Under 17's and has played A grade cricket in Ballarat since he was 14. However his contested footy, reading of the play and handball/extraction skills are elite. Getting his fitness up to AFL standard will be his toughest assignment IMO. Let's face it you rarely get the "perfect" footballer outside the top ten or so picks but there's plenty of scope with Matt.

P.S. I have resided in the Central Highlands, Victoria for the last 10 years, after shifting over from S.A.

 

[Jumbo]

Have you???

I've seen a fair bit of Matt play through the juniors and TAC and whilst he certainly isn't any Hamish Hartlett by foot, he is nowhere near as bad as some would have you believe, perhaps lacks a bit of penetration, more to do with his fitness base as he has never done a full pre-season due to cricket commitments.Matt has represented Victoria [wicketkeeper/batsman] at both schoolboys and Under 17's and has played A grade cricket in Ballarat since he was 14. However his contested footy, reading of the play and handball/extraction skills are elite. Getting his fitness up to AFL standard will be his toughest assignment IMO. Let's face it you rarely get the "perfect" footballer outside the top ten or so picks but there's plenty of scope with Matt.

P.S. I have resided in the Central Highlands, Victoria for the last 10 years, after shifting over from S.A.

Did becoming full time footballers with numerous pre-seasons under their belts sure did help Tregenza and symes with alleviating their bomb scare kicks?

 

[Bicks]

Did becoming full time footballers with numerous pre-seasons under their belts sure did help Tregenza and symes with alleviating their bomb scare kicks?

Time will tell I guess Jumbo, though I see his role more as a Scott Thompson in and under type player, Thommo ain't great with his foot skills either but most teams would love one like him, perhaps even Port?? Shit I hope he's a better than Tregenza and Symes anyhow.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Have you???

I've seen a fair bit of Matt play through the juniors and TAC and whilst he certainly isn't any Hamish Hartlett by foot, he is nowhere near as bad as some would have you believe, perhaps lacks a bit of penetration, more to do with his fitness base as he has never done a full pre-season due to cricket commitments.Matt has represented Victoria [wicketkeeper/batsman] at both schoolboys and Under 17's and has played A grade cricket in Ballarat since he was 14. However his contested footy, reading of the play and handball/extraction skills are elite. Getting his fitness up to AFL standard will be his toughest assignment IMO. Let's face it you rarely get the "perfect" footballer outside the top ten or so picks but there's plenty of scope with Matt.

P.S. I have resided in the Central Highlands, Victoria for the last 10 years, after shifting over from S.A.

His 3 minute highlights video (it's all some of us have to go by) was not flattering. Plenty of kicks looked a shank even not under pressure and it seemed to be a knock on him by some reviewers. Heard the same as you've said about his fitness.

Still he can find plenty of the ball and if you kick it often enough chances are you will land it enough in the right spot.

 

[Forzaport]

That vets thing has me a bit bamboozled. I think it used to be the case but according to the afl info prior to the draft it only depends on how many are on your main list. You can have a total of 44 players made up of 38 main list + 6 rookies, 39 + 5 or 40 + 4. If my sums are right we have 40 on the main list.

The international rookie read out seems to be an administrative direction. A few other clubs read out their international rookies too.

I think we can still add Venter under the 3 year rule. There was no deadline given for rookies under that rule as far as I could tell.

I reckon the 3 year rule is classified as 'Alternative Talent' Category B rookie.

I think it's all done and dusted now for rookies though going off the AFL key dates page.

Thursday 31 October by 2pm - list lodgement (1); rookie promotion to primary list; retained second and third-year rookies; scholarship players; alternate talent player nominations.
Friday 8 November - international players inclusion on rookie list form; players not registered or played for 3 years rookie list form lodgement.
Monday 25 November - Gillette AFL delisted free agency period (3) concludes; AFL club list lodgement (3); notification of NSW and Qld pre-selected rookies, father-son pre-selected rookies, Academy pre-selected rookies, international scholarship pre-selected rookies and scholarship pre-selected rookies nominated if not selected in the pre-season draft.

Any rookie signed from here on in is a scholarship player only and not officially listed on a club's rookie list I think.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Fair enough. Never heard anything one way or the other from the club.

 

[Asgardian]

Time will tell I guess Jumbo, though I see his role more as a Scott Thompson in and under type player, Thommo ain't great with his foot skills either but most teams would love one like him, perhaps even Port?? Shit I hope he's a better than Tregenza and Symes anyhow.

Out-Of-Puff will go well with Head-Crouch, all the foot skills of Leon Milde.

 

[Bicks]

Out-Of-Puff will go well with Head-Crouch, all the foot skills of Leon Milde.

Pity is I'm old enough to remember Leon Milde, so you must be in the "veteran" class too Asgardian??..

The knock on Brad Ebert has always been his kicking too, but still a bloody good footballer by anyone's standards, blokes that can consistently win their own ball are still at a premium, something both Brad and Matt have in spades. Blokes with Hamish Hartlett's kicking skills are few and far between.

 

[Nemisis]

Brad Ebert's kicking is pretty good now. I think Brad has pushed into the top 50 players in the AFL.
Better kick than Judd

 

[Powerstufff]

Brad Ebert's kicking is pretty good now. I think Brad has pushed into the top 50 players in the AFL. Better kick than Judd

One thing about a post like that, you are bound to get a reply.