Review Round 17, 2021 vs Melbourne
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Several players got caught like that tonight. It would help if the players around them told them they were hot. But maybe its too hard to hear other players at Adelaide Oval.
It wasn't a 'time is almost up' moment at all. Boak was one of about three players desperately trying to claw us to victory in the third quarter from memory. Besides there was noone to kick to. This often results in more players getting caught
Meanwhile Jackson gets picked for Melbourne week in, week out and I barely noticed him tonight. What’s he doing that Hayes isn’t? Instead, we have bloody Ladhams who will get another go before him.
The language all week has been that we don't want to win, so this result was certainly expected
This is going to sound brutal but i reckon our 2014 backline was miles better than what we have today. I specifically remember we had an absolute wall built at one point. Trengove and Carlile took the keys Hombsch would come third in as would Jonas. Pittard had some bomb scares but did rebound efficiently and we had Cam FRIDGE OShea who couldnt kick for s**t but had good positioning. When the dees dump kicked out of their 50 i fully expected one of our players to mark it which did happen a tiny bit during the third but more often than not we had one on ones and no ones coming through
We can only kick 8 goals with Dixon, MG and Marshall in he forward line,
The Hinkley effect, anyone good turns to ..........
Their coach was put under the pump and not given Hinkley extensions for no reason.
Playing Allir as a roaming forward pocket was seriously annoying. Then there was Butters getting injured...
I'm not so sure
Agree Lienert won his position on the field
Clurey was very bad not up to the speed of that game
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Butters was back too soon. He's an amazing player but ffs he's in his 3rd year. We should not be depending on him, and he should have had one more game in Sanfl to prove his fitness. I know the injuries are unrelated but he was hardly in the contest in the time he was out there.
Marshall, sorry mate but you need to go back to the Sanfl, and I wouldn't bring him back until he takes 5 contested marks in a game. Give him a target to work towards. Softer than margarine.
Houston needs to get further up the ground or back in the midfield, he's such a nothing player at the moment and when we play well I think he is one of our weapons. We need to get him involved. Where is that guy who was lacing out 50m passes inside the forward line from early in the season?
Rozee, inconsistent. Had a few good weeks before and always has a couple of special moments, but needs to stay in the game for longer.
Motlop, delist material. Struggle to think who would make an offer if we put him up for trade.
Hayes has to put his hand up to play next week and we must give him a go. Lycett needs support and it makes no sense to play our best key position players in Aliir and Dixon in ruck. We're robbing Peter to pay Paul.
If we are to salvage anything from this season, next week I want
In: Hayes, Hartlett, Garner, Pasini/Mead
Out: Marshall, Butters (inj), Motlop, Mayes, DBJ
Time to chop the passengers.
Players on notice: Burton, Houston, Frederick, Rozee
Marshall, sorry mate but you need to go back to the Sanfl, and I wouldn't bring him back until he takes 5 contested marks in a game. Give him a target to work towards. Softer than margarine.
Houston needs to get further up the ground or back in the midfield, he's such a nothing player at the moment and when we play well I think he is one of our weapons. We need to get him involved. Where is that guy who was lacing out 50m passes inside the forward line from early in the season?
Rozee, inconsistent. Had a few good weeks before and always has a couple of special moments, but needs to stay in the game for longer.
Motlop, delist material. Struggle to think who would make an offer if we put him up for trade.
Hayes has to put his hand up to play next week and we must give him a go. Lycett needs support and it makes no sense to play our best key position players in Aliir and Dixon in ruck. We're robbing Peter to pay Paul.
If we are to salvage anything from this season, next week I want
In: Hayes, Hartlett, Garner, Pasini/Mead
Out: Marshall, Butters (inj), Motlop, Mayes, DBJ
Time to chop the passengers.
Players on notice: Burton, Houston, Frederick, Rozee
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It was the game style. 2014 we put numbers behind the ball and slingshot forward. The exact opposite of what we do now.
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We also have a load of really average ball users, unfortunately most of them are in the midfield.
We will self destruct remaining part of season. No cohesion or trust in this team. Starts with Ken. Rudderless dog sh## game plan with a number of players so out of form it's too painful to watch. The fun in AFL footy has disappeared for me.
In my opinion they were just the much better side.
Better coach and we were beaten all over the ground. I don’t think our defence played too badly considering the amount of over the back’s and goal side uncontested possession our midfield let occur.
Ruck v Ruck:
We were smashed in the ruck. The stats don’t show the dominance because the don’t account for the amount of times Gawn would tap it straight down the throat of Trac or Oliver and they’d get a fast clearance to hit a target inside 50. We had nothing like that from Lycett or any of our mids.
Mids v Mids:
Trac and Oliver were so so much better than Wines and Boak. Soundly beaten in quality there last night. Langdon was better than any of our wingers and overall their midfield was just so much better at position. That’s a coaching thing, you can’t let all our mids the whole game get drawn into the contest when Melbourne had the Richmond game style of having their extra numbers just outside of the contest, goal side, backing in Oliver or Trac to out class the 5-6 mids we had flocking to the ball. It happened in the first quarter and nothing changed for the whole game, so that’s terrible coaching.
Defense v Defense:
our defense actually played quite well I thougt. However, when you looked at May, Lever, Petty and Hibberd. My god in comparison we looked like an under 12’s team. Hibberd and May took about 8 grabs all at crucial points, all from contests our forwards had the ability to spoil. Yet on the other end we have even easier marking attempts and Jonas, Clurey and McKenzie just spoil it every time or get beaten on the lead from playing behind (Clurey). That’s the difference in quality.
When you get down to it simplistically it’s not hard to see why Melbourne won comfortably:
Their ruck was a lot better.
Their mids were a lot better especially their top 2.
Their defenders were miles better.
They outcoached us. This one wasn’t hard either as the only things that worked in the first quarter kept getting used and Hinkley didn’t make one single adjustment except moving Aliir out of defense which made us even worse.
We simply aren’t as good of a team and we’re outclassed across every line of the ground, including the coaches box.
Better coach and we were beaten all over the ground. I don’t think our defence played too badly considering the amount of over the back’s and goal side uncontested possession our midfield let occur.
Ruck v Ruck:
We were smashed in the ruck. The stats don’t show the dominance because the don’t account for the amount of times Gawn would tap it straight down the throat of Trac or Oliver and they’d get a fast clearance to hit a target inside 50. We had nothing like that from Lycett or any of our mids.
Mids v Mids:
Trac and Oliver were so so much better than Wines and Boak. Soundly beaten in quality there last night. Langdon was better than any of our wingers and overall their midfield was just so much better at position. That’s a coaching thing, you can’t let all our mids the whole game get drawn into the contest when Melbourne had the Richmond game style of having their extra numbers just outside of the contest, goal side, backing in Oliver or Trac to out class the 5-6 mids we had flocking to the ball. It happened in the first quarter and nothing changed for the whole game, so that’s terrible coaching.
Defense v Defense:
our defense actually played quite well I thougt. However, when you looked at May, Lever, Petty and Hibberd. My god in comparison we looked like an under 12’s team. Hibberd and May took about 8 grabs all at crucial points, all from contests our forwards had the ability to spoil. Yet on the other end we have even easier marking attempts and Jonas, Clurey and McKenzie just spoil it every time or get beaten on the lead from playing behind (Clurey). That’s the difference in quality.
When you get down to it simplistically it’s not hard to see why Melbourne won comfortably:
Their ruck was a lot better.
Their mids were a lot better especially their top 2.
Their defenders were miles better.
They outcoached us. This one wasn’t hard either as the only things that worked in the first quarter kept getting used and Hinkley didn’t make one single adjustment except moving Aliir out of defense which made us even worse.
We simply aren’t as good of a team and we’re outclassed across every line of the ground, including the coaches box.
Hayes has a long way to go to be as fit as Williams, or as professional as Ladhams.
After a great start to the year he turned to s**t very quickly after receiving accolades from game commentators. He's now lazy, back to being soft and his kicking is now crap. Drop.
Good review. Plus our forwards were shocking. Some weren't even prepared to make a genuine contest and that is unforgivable.
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To make matters worse a ******* Troy Chaplin coached backline destroyed our forward line.
what next a nathan Lonie led midfield dominates contested ball.
any wonder people are giving up
what next a nathan Lonie led midfield dominates contested ball.
any wonder people are giving up
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What really pissed me off was watching the forward line with a 2 on 2 and there’s Georgie just intent of blocking for Dixon, so we had a 2 on 2 and yet only 1 of our players was intent on the ball. Whose ******* idea is that? That has to be a direction. Just makes lever or Mays job easier.
when we decided to make lever play defence he looked ordinary
His effort and intensity was clearly there unlike half our team but he lacks polish atm. 2020 was a great year for him but in 2021 he's back to being undisciplined & wasteful.
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