Autopsy Round 3, 2022: Hawks go down to the Blues

[CHUBBSS]

Some of Hardwick's work in one-on-one situations when the ball's on the deck is breathtaking, still think he's criminally underrated

One of the key reason why our back 6 is as good as they are, his so good you just expect it

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

AFL coaches votes.​

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Carlton v Hawthorn​

9 Sam Docherty

15

Sam Docherty

Age

30

Ht

187cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

22.3

5star

K

15.1

5star

HB

7.2

4star

M

6.6

5star

T

2.4

4star

CL

1.1

3star

D

22.6

5star

K

16.0

5star

HB

6.6

4star

M

7.0

5star

T

0.6

1star

CL

0.4

3star

D

11.2

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.4

4star

CL

0.6

3star

(CARL)
8 Changkuoth Jiath

9

Changkuoth Jiath

Age

24

Ht

185cm

Wt

78kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.5

4star

K

5.0

2star

HB

9.5

5star

M

3.5

4star

T

2.5

4star

MG

91.0

1star

No current season stats available

D

14.5

4star

K

5.0

2star

HB

9.5

5star

M

3.5

4star

T

2.5

4star

MG

91.0

2star

(HAW)
5 Jacob Weitering

23

Jacob Weitering

Age

26

Ht

195cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.8

4star

K

9.1

4star

HB

4.7

3star

M

5.6

5star

T

1.3

3star

MG

189.4

3star

No current season stats available

D

16.8

4star

K

10.8

4star

HB

6.0

4star

M

6.0

5star

T

0.8

3star

MG

263.4

4star

(CARL)
5 Patrick Cripps

9

Patrick Cripps

Age

29

Ht

195cm

Wt

93kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

25.9

5star

K

9.8

4star

HB

16.1

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

5.8

5star

CL

7.4

5star

D

21.0

5star

K

10.1

4star

HB

10.9

5star

M

2.5

3star

T

3.8

4star

CL

6.3

5star

D

12.6

4star

K

4.8

2star

HB

7.8

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.2

5star

CL

1.4

4star

(CARL)
3 Dylan Moore

13

Dylan Moore

Age

24

Ht

177cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.9

3star

K

5.1

2star

HB

6.7

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.9

4star

G

0.3

3star

No current season stats available

D

12.2

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

6.2

4star

M

5.4

5star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.4

3star

(HAW)

 

[The Spirit of Cricket]

AFL coaches votes.​

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Carlton v Hawthorn​

9 Sam Docherty (CARL)
8 Changkuoth Jiath (HAW)
5 Jacob Weitering (CARL)
5 Patrick Cripps (CARL)
3 Dylan Moore (HAW)

doch was incredible

 

[Judd2Sewell]

AFL coaches votes.​

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Carlton v Hawthorn​

9 Sam Docherty (CARL)
8 Changkuoth Jiath (HAW)
5 Jacob Weitering (CARL)
5 Patrick Cripps (CARL)
3 Dylan Moore (HAW)

5 - Docherty
4 - Cripps
3 - CJ
2 - Weitering
1 - Moore

5 - CJ
4 - Docherty
3 - Weitering
2 - Moore
1 - Cripps

 

[TylerDurden]

doch was incredible

Unbelievable game.

 

[BlueWaterHawk]

Some of Hardwick's work in one-on-one situations when the ball's on the deck is breathtaking, still think he's criminally underrated

Externally maybe, but the club knows how good he is.

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[WWSD]

Surprised Sicily wasn’t in the coaches votes. He was one of the reasons why we ended up getting back in the game.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

You're missing the point entirely SYL - these stats merely distort the reality.
No one's saying he isn't an endurance runner, we all know that he is.
But he lacks speed at the contest - whether to escape with the ball or catch his man. Have a look at 2 incidents in the last quarter - your big picture stats won't help you there.

Sam Mitchell lacked pace as well but he compensated for that with extraordinary agility and that 6th sense that great footballers have.

I suspect it was Finn's lack of speed at the contest that kept him at Box Hill last year.

He’s played 6 games.

Maybe wait until he’s played a few more before critiquing him too harshly, and particularly against Sam Mitchell.

 

[Jim Prideaux]

Mitchell said in the presser that scrim made a passing comment “should be right” as if it was to be nothing. Id be surprised if it’s a month out surely?

Didn’t see that, but great if true.

 

[smeltitdeltit]

Umpire.
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[CHUBBSS]

Umpire.
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What I would like to see is a club take a stance behind closed doors to ban s**t umpires from being anywhere near a hawks match, to put up with half the crap they dish out is a joke, not sure if it’s possible but if we keep seeing the same umpires doing the same things week in week out it ruins the game

 

[Luv_our_club]

Ned Ryderson - still not twenty pages. Shame isn't it. What can we do to change that, perhaps?

 

[cryptor]

Umpire.
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I can’t believe these umpires are the best of the best. Just farcical.

 

[GOHORCS]

Is it just me or does Cripps get a long time to get rid of it from when he is tackled?
He doesn't seem to be slowed down or stopped from disposing however he wants but a tackle is a tackle isn't it?

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[Luv_our_club]

Is it just me or does Cripps get a long time to get rid of it from when he is tackled?
He doesn't seem to be slowed down or stopped from disposing however he wants but a tackle is a tackle isn't it?

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We missed a lot of HTB frees on Sunday because of the Carlton crowd.

HTB is perhaps the best indicator of umpires lacking spine at times... because they are complicated decisions.

 

[Yardie]

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Its like Frosty is invisible.

Clearly MVP for mine. Harry and DeKoning didnt get near it. CJ played well and he is exciting but once again his dreadful turnovers get ignored.
Frosts game has gone
to another level! Mitch was quick to correct the media in their frenzied CJ questions in his press conference.
Why is Frost invisible to Hawthorn fans?


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Because most fans think that Frost plays football. Once you realise and accept that he plays to his own tune of Frostball can you only truly understand how good he is.

 

[moginie]

Ned Ryderson - still not twenty pages. Shame isn't it. What can we do to change that, perhaps?

Well we must have done fairly well because normally after a loss there is a plethora of negative posters who can't wait to post their opinions over and over again.

 

[smeltitdeltit]

Is it just me or does Cripps get a long time to get rid of it from when he is tackled?
He doesn't seem to be slowed down or stopped from disposing however he wants but a tackle is a tackle isn't it?

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He does. So does danger and Petracca The elite bullocking mids get eternity to dispose of the ball and are heralded for strength in the tackle (rightly so) but 2nd stringers aren’t given the same leeway. Example was Finn against the boundary on the wing in the third (or early 4th)

 

[kirbatron]

Umpire.
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deadset awful

 

[hawkman]

The worst one given was against Reeves. He barely took a step before he was tackled

 

[Dudi]

Anyone think the Carlton defender (don't know name) was holding the ball in the dying minutes about 30m out directly in front?

 

[Hawkas1988]

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Its like Frosty is invisible.

Clearly MVP for mine. Harry and DeKoning didnt get near it. CJ played well and he is exciting but once again his dreadful turnovers get ignored.
Frosts game has gone
to another level! Mitch was quick to correct the media in their frenzied CJ questions in his press conference.
Why is Frost invisible to Hawthorn fans?


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Dreadful turnovers? Lol.

CJ was incredible yesterday. Fans thought it. Oppo fans thought it and the coaches clearly thought it going by the coaches votes. He was EASILY our best player yesterday.

Frosty has been good and is definitely underrated, however please stop trying to constantly tear down one of the most exciting young players in the comp just to get your point across about Frosty being underrated.

CJ transforms us as a team.

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[Dudi]

Why did CJ not go for the ball near the goal square and allow the Carlton forward to kick a goal? That was one of the weirdest things I've seen for a while.

 

[SSSSSS]

The worst one given was against Reeves. He barely took a step before he was tackled

Thought Breust was worse. He took a bouncing ball mid air and was chicken winged straight away for HTB.

 

[hawkman]

Thought Breust was worse. He took a bouncing ball mid air and was chicken winged straight away for HTB.

One arm was free so i can see why it was paid. Should have just dropped it out as that is generally play on (I hate that you can drop it out and there is generally no penalty)