Scott Morrison - How Long? Part 2

[The Punter]

Doesn't answer the question though.

Then the answer would be "those schools who need it most based on the above assumption, can lobby their state governments for more funding as they are the only people who can directly provide that funding."

This is a case of letting the cobblers do the cobbling.

 

[JackOutback]

The two levels of government work on an agreed responsibility for funding: the state governments fund public/private 80/20, and the feds the other way around. And the fed money for public is given directly to the state governments because they are constitutionally prohibited from providing funding directly to state schools. They are not so limited with non-government schools.

I'm aware of that, but the Feds aren't shy about overstepping their authority when it suits them (usually backed up by the High Court). Its priorities are arse about when it's funding private schools as if they are 'in need'.

 

[Pessimistic]

I'm aware of that, but the Feds aren't shy about overstepping their authority when it suits them (usually backed up by the High Court). Its priorities are arse about when it's funding private schools as if they are 'in need'.

"In need" means haven't opened a 'wellness centre" or hockey pavillion or purchased an adjoining property for a few years

 

[Present Not Past]

Then the answer would be "those schools who need it most based on the above assumption, can lobby their state governments for more funding as they are the only people who can directly provide that funding."

This is a case of letting the cobblers do the cobbling.

And is precisely why public schools are always in a chronic need of funding as opposed to private schools.

 

[Present Not Past]

"In need" means haven't opened a 'wellness centre" or hockey pavillion or purchased an adjoining property for a few years

Oh my dear fellow, how on earth can Tristan possibly survive school if he is forced to go without his daily walkies, chasing the ball and tummy rubs?

 

[Present Not Past]

When the f*** did this government start to worry about people who are hard up and struggling to afford things? This sounds a lot like middle class welfare to me.

The more families put their children into private schools the more votes the Libs have in the bag as all they have to do is run the "ALP will always cut funding to private schools" scare campaign. Cynical - yeah I know.

 

[Pessimistic]

The more families put their children into private schools the more votes the Libs have in the bag as all they have to do is run the "ALP will always cut funding to private schools" scare campaign. Cynical - yeah I know.

Under gillard admin, schools fought like mad to keep their funding and books 'private', while still holding out the bowl for moolah. And you're right they would threaten to put up fees if the govt got stroppy.

 

[Present Not Past]

Under gillard admin, schools fought like mad to keep their funding and books 'private', while still holding out the bowl for moolah. And you're right they would threaten to put up fees if the govt got stroppy.

They're targeting less well-off families this time around who would be the first to feel the pinch if schools raised their fees.

 

[Pessimistic]

In leafy suburbs like mine, I still fail to see the edge (or see that its over stated). If your local high is full of drongos who mess about I can see the atttraction of a local school where the all the kids are motivated because parents are paying.

 

[Present Not Past]

In leafy suburbs like mine, I still fail to see the edge (or see that its over stated). If your local high is full of drongos who mess about I can see the atttraction of a local school where the all the kids are motivated because parents are paying.

Are you talking about private schools here?
Private schools still have their drongos, the only difference is that they come from wealthy houeholds.
The only schools I've found where the majority of kids are motivated are the selective high schools.

 

[The Punter]

Are you talking about private schools here?
Private schools still have their drongos, the only difference is that they come from wealthy houeholds.
The only schools I've found where the majority of kids are motivated are the selective high schools.

At the risk of derailing the thread, Victoria has the smallest number of fully-selective high schools by some margin.

 

[Pessimistic]

And apparently over half the melbourne kids dont attend the nearest appropriate school. and they wonder why congestion?

 

[Pessimistic]

All the same its a hell of a business model....relies on perception of state schools being bad. and as its perception not true comparison, all manner of crap gets spoken

 

[Deliverance]

The Australian public voted in a lazy administration.

Will be interested with GDP figures for the Dec 1/4 and then the Mar 1/4 - if we do chance go negative in both quarters then it is only because this government sat on its hands and did nothing other than the tax cuts, which most people banked or paid down debt. The two crisis, bushfires and coronavirus, have just made it worse. Our GDP growth is at 1.7%, at it lowest levels since the GFC.

A do nothing administration.

I thought they did do something.
Didn't they allow APRA to relax lending criteria so housing could continue to become more unaffordable for young people?

 

[NSWCROW]

 

[Chief]

More portents of doom, Scotty from marketing is on his knees praying for the rapture. He'd rather see those two fat muppets of his die than face the consequences of the gene pool they've been thrown in.

That’s a bit over the line. Maybe let’s ease up on people’s kids. Except Donald Jr.

 

[MC Bad Genius]

Some of the quotes at the bottom of the article around the female changeroom grants sound like they've been lifted wholesale from the scripts of the next season of Utopia. What a debacle.

 

[cartwright]

136 emails ..., tsk tsk
And scottys electorate gets $50k for a building already built

 

[kirky]

This is a totally failure of this government - and what for $51b? Now that is one huge waste of money.

What Telstra's shock move says about Australia's NBN

The NBN's problems will continue to worsen, with Australia fast approaching "a breaking point where we are going to be left far behind".

thenewdaily.com.au

 

[kirky]

This government is led by a bunch of dills. Perhaps we do need to go into recession to wake the Australian people up. I know that is harsh but we need to face reality as a country.

Billions still 'wiped on' the ASX despite coronavirus infecting shares

The coronavirus hasn't done as much economic damage as the headlines suggest. But it might – and the government won't help.

thenewdaily.com.au

 

[Pessimistic]

The 97 asia crisis turned out good for Aus. In fact it was probably the start of our 'chinese save haven' persona. (which did have a downside ie housing debt bubble)

I'm wondering if it was just 'Dumb luck' or did the Howard Govt take some appropriate measures

 

[NSWCROW]

inb4 the usual " * you for daring to stand up to us , it's Labors fault " bullshit from these ******* mutts

Prime minister's department broke the law delaying FOI request, watchdog finds

Department one of at least three federal agencies found to have breached freedom of information law since November

www.theguardian.com

Imagine voting for these dogs

 

[NSWCROW]

This is a totally failure of this government - and what for $51b? Now that is one huge waste of money.

What Telstra's shock move says about Australia's NBN

The NBN's problems will continue to worsen, with Australia fast approaching "a breaking point where we are going to be left far behind".

thenewdaily.com.au

Yeah but rupert got what he wanted and that's all that mattered to the abbott ministry

 

[E Shed]

inb4 the usual " fu** you for daring to stand up to us , it's Labors fault " bullshit from these ******* mutts

Prime minister's department broke the law delaying FOI request, watchdog finds

Department one of at least three federal agencies found to have breached freedom of information law since November

www.theguardian.com

Imagine voting for these dogs

This probably won't even make the mainstream news. Just complete & utter corruption.
note that they spent $110,000 to "clear" themselves. Much like Sports Rorts I imagine.

"It was a recurring problem at the department in 2017/18. The OAIC found the department met the legally-imposed deadlines in just 35% of FOIs that year.

The information watchdog told the department to audit and improve its handling of requests within three months, and send out an all-staff missive reminding employees of their legal obligations.

The finding, though, is in stark contrast to a separate $110,000 internal investigation the department conducted into its handling of the same FOI request, in which it cleared itself of wrongdoing."

 

[NSWCROW]

This probably won't even make the mainstream news. Just complete & utter corruption.
note that they spent $110,000 to "clear" themselves. Much like Sports Rorts I imagine.

"It was a recurring problem at the department in 2017/18. The OAIC found the department met the legally-imposed deadlines in just 35% of FOIs that year.

The information watchdog told the department to audit and improve its handling of requests within three months, and send out an all-staff missive reminding employees of their legal obligations.

The finding, though, is in stark contrast to a separate $110,000 internal investigation the department conducted into its handling of the same FOI request, in which it cleared itself of wrongdoing."

Imagine if it was Labor.

It'd be the worst ******* thing that's ever happened to this country since the Japs attacked Darwin