List Mgmt. Should I stay or should I go now? End of season list management discussion (now continued for 2020)

[KermitJagger]

With Burgoyne being in the top 10 highest paid players at the club. What compensation pick will we get. A pick in the 40s or 50s?

It's not about what he gets here, it's about what he will be getting at Gold Coast, with a little bit of the herbs and spices the AFL throws on for good measure.

If he gets a Daniel Wells type deal for 3 years, we'll probably get a pick in the 40s or 50s. We could also potentially get nothing.

 

[MrPremiership]

Where is Schoe at?

Can't get the body right but still young enough. Does the recruitment of Patton end his career?

 

[OnTheRocks]

Where is Schoe at?

Can't get the body right but still young enough. Does the recruitment of Patton end his career?

He ain't no Birch.
Gone, I think.

 

[TheFourPillars]

Where is Schoe at?

Can't get the body right but still young enough. Does the recruitment of Patton end his career?

Done...

 

[Spursfan]

Where is Schoe at?

Can't get the body right but still young enough. Does the recruitment of Patton end his career?

yeah I think he's gone mate.

 

[HODGEYROAD]

It's not about what he gets here, it's about what he will be getting at Gold Coast, with a little bit of the herbs and spices the AFL throws on for good measure.

If he gets a Daniel Wells type deal for 3 years, we'll probably get a pick in the 40s or 50s. We could also potentially get nothing.

It's at the AFL's discretion lets not kid ourselves, should Burgoyne leave we're a lock to get absolutely nothing.

 

[tommyk72]

When are we expecting lost announcements to start? Do delistings start now, or not til after the season

 

[getgaff]

When are we expecting lost announcements to start? Do delistings start now, or not til after the season

Exit interviews this week I presume.

A few of the other non finals clubs have started filtering through with de-listings and retirements.

North only have Goldstein and 1 other player on their O.O.C list left.

 

[Carl Spackler]

I was always curious as to why clubs announce delistings any sooner than that last minute possible. You never know who might end up as trade bait. Also, what advantage does an early delisting give a player? He can start talking to other clubs? His manager can do that if he's trade bait as well, no?

Unless he's an absolute no-hoper and won't offer any sort of trade value to anyone then I would not delist until forced by the rules. But I don't really konw what the right answer is.

 

[Brant]

I was always curious as to why clubs announce delistings any sooner than that last minute possible. You never know who might end up as trade bait. Also, what advantage does an early delisting give a player? He can start talking to other clubs? His manager can do that if he's trade bait as well, no?

Unless he's an absolute no-hoper and won't offer any sort of trade value to anyone then I would not delist until forced by the rules. But I don't really konw what the right answer is.

It’s fairer on the player so they have more info/time to work on their career.

Hendo is one of those no-hopers you speak of. As is Ceglar. Some players definitely have more appeal if they can be added for free.

I’m sure that players with trade currency won’t be de-listed just yet, for obvious reasons.

 

[MasterSamurai]

I was always curious as to why clubs announce delistings any sooner than that last minute possible. You never know who might end up as trade bait. Also, what advantage does an early delisting give a player? He can start talking to other clubs? His manager can do that if he's trade bait as well, no?

Unless he's an absolute no-hoper and won't offer any sort of trade value to anyone then I would not delist until forced by the rules. But I don't really konw what the right answer is.

Need to clear the books plus players need to know where they’re at ASAP so they have time to get shopped around by his manager.

 

[Walshawk]

Where is Schoe at?

Can't get the body right but still young enough. Does the recruitment of Patton end his career?

Yes, there is only room on the list for one perpetually injured key forward.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

I think any delistings will be delayed until Box Hill are done surely?

 

[TylerDurden]

 

[spudmaster]

With Burgoyne being in the top 10 highest paid players at the club. What compensation pick will we get. A pick in the 40s or 50s?

Reckon you're missing a zero...

 

[PT Bar None]

It's at the AFL's discretion lets not kid ourselves, should Burgoyne leave we're a lock to get absolutely nothing.

We could well lose a fourth round pick

 

[Hodginator]

Quintet re-sign

Hawthorn’s 2020 list is taking shape, with five promising youngsters signing new one-year deals.

m.hawthornfc.com.au

Hawthorn’s 2020 list is starting to take shape, with five promising young Hawks signing new one-year deals this week.

The quintet consists of second-year players Jackson Ross and Harrison Jones, along with first years Damon Greaves, Will Golds and Ned Reeves.

 

[col44]

It's not looking good.. that's all I know.
Heavy reliance on a couple young Irish boys.

If Patton struggles next year and we don't have Poppy, Burgoyne, Smith, Birchall, Schoey, Ceglar and Roughy we will be adding to our trophy cabinet. It just will be made of wood, not silver.

 

[col44]

Nice. You'd rather finish 12th?

 

[col44]

Or are you thinking Patton comes back from a knee to kick 70, Mitchell comes back from a broken leg to win the brownlow and Impey comes back early to star?

I am a loyal member since before you were born I suspect. I have no issue taking a couple steps back to take three forward.

Please don't confuse my version of reality with descent. Only those with the Rosiest of glasses think we will improve next season, though I'll be more than happy if it happens.

Feel free to respond with more quality comments.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Says we’ll win a wooden spoon next year - accuses others of not being realistic.

 

[bris tarangau]

Or are you thinking Patton comes back from a knee to kick 70, Mitchell comes back from a broken leg to win the brownlow and Impey comes back early to star?

I am a loyal member since before you were born I suspect. I have no issue taking a couple steps back to take three forward.

Please don't confuse my version of reality with descent. Only those with the Rosiest of glasses think we will improve next season, though I'll be more than happy if it happens.

Feel free to respond with more quality comments.

Agree. We need to keep some experience and others, so we have depth...

 

[Simon Crawshay]

He ain't no Birch.
Gone, I think.

Very true
The upside of getting Birch fit is that he is still a quality starting 18 player when he plays.
The upside of getting Schoey fit is a marginal 22 to 25 type player.
Unfortunately for Ivan Drago he is probably a gonzki

 

[moginie]

Please don't confuse my version of reality with descent. Only those with the Rosiest of glasses think we will improve next season, though I'll be more than happy if it happens.

Feel free to respond with more quality comments.

How else do you think people interpret your comments? Reality vs descent? You had intimated that we would come last. If that isn't descent then what is?

 

[Carl Spackler]

It's not looking good.. that's all I know.
Heavy reliance on a couple young Irish boys.

If Patton struggles next year and we don't have Poppy, Burgoyne, Smith, Birchall, Schoey, Ceglar and Roughy we will be adding to our trophy cabinet. It just will be made of wood, not silver.