List Mgmt. Should I stay or should I go now? End of season list management discussion (now continued for 2020)

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Downie hasn't really even palyed ona wing at under age footy has he? He may get there at ALF level, but surely he and Day are more half back flankers at this stage. For it's Phillips and Morrison as prue wingers with guys like Shiels, Wings, Moore likely to get shifts, maybe even Finn and other part time kids.
I believe he has played both half back and wing. It was the inside mid role he has yet to be trialed in.
 

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Davo-27

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Anyone know anything about him?
i had him as an outside chance to be drafted last year, inside mid who showed some class in his underage year in 2019, probably the best kid from Dandenong in his draft year, decent prospect who could develop into a player? if i remember he did have decent acceleration? its been awhile since i saw him play, but he did look good in his underage year for Dandenong, i remember that.
 

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Will we pick someone up now or wait for the msd? is The difference you can get 1st dibs on a player now but in the msd it is still a draft and is based on ladder order so you may get beaten out to a kid from a lower placed club? trial and pick a player now or go to draft. I guess with 2-3 selections you can do both
 

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Will we pick someone up now or wait for the msd? is The difference you can get 1st dibs on a player now but in the msd it is still a draft and is based on ladder order so you may get beaten out to a kid from a lower placed club? trial and pick a player now or go to draft. I guess with 2-3 selections you can do both
I think with Scully retiring, Patton sitting out indefinitely and Sicily out for most if not all the year we will heavily explore this option.
 

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Anyone know anything about him?
From that profile, appears we’ve changed our recruiting model - prioritising speed, power and hardness with skills and decision making a 2nd order priority. Seems similar to Saunders in some ways. But a type we’ve typically not looked at (seems more a Richmond style pick).
 

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Will we pick someone up now or wait for the msd? is The difference you can get 1st dibs on a player now but in the msd it is still a draft and is based on ladder order so you may get beaten out to a kid from a lower placed club? trial and pick a player now or go to draft. I guess with 2-3 selections you can do both
I don't see there being too many of these come halfway through the year to be honest. One, maybe two at max.

Tough start to the season with limited resources.

We could use a 19YO mid season draft steal and a top 2/3 pick in the next draft, so I'm not complaining.
 

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From that profile, appears we’ve changed our recruiting model - prioritising speed, power and hardness with skills and decision making a 2nd order priority. Seems similar to Saunders in some ways. But a type we’ve typically not looked at (seems more a Richmond style pick).
Yes we have a clear focus on speed. This started a couple of years ago but really escalated this offseason. * indicates above average pace (at least for a their position)

2016
Mitchell
O'Meara*
Vickery
Henderson*

Morrison
Lewis

Hanrahan*
Fitzpatrick
Nash*

2017
Impey*

Worpel*
Moore
Ross

Jones
Mira
Wilsmore
Cousins
CJ*

2018
Mitchington*
Scrimshaw
Scully*
Wingard*

Kosi*
Walker

Geaves
Golds*
Mohr
Reeves

2019
Frost*
Patton

Day*
Maginness*
Morris*

Hartley
Jeka*
Pepper*
Booksby
Mitchington*

2020
Hartigan
Phillips

DGB*
Mitchell*
Downie*
Brockman*

Saunders*
 

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Yes we have a clear focus on speed. This started a couple of years ago but really escalated this offseason. * indicates above average pace (at least for a their position)

2016
Mitchell
O'Meara*
Vickery
Henderson*

Morrison
Lewis

Hanrahan*
Fitzpatrick
Nash*

2017
Impey*

Worpel*
Moore
Ross

Jones
Mira
Wilsmore
Cousins
CJ*

2018
Mitchington*
Scrimshaw
Scully*
Wingard*

Kosi*
Walker

Geaves
Golds*
Mohr
Reeves

2019
Frost*
Patton

Day*
Maginness*
Morris*

Hartley
Jeka*
Pepper*
Booksby
Mitchington*

2020
Hartigan
Phillips

DGB*
Mitchell*
Downie*
Brockman*

Saunders*
Massively ramped up this draft. Get the feeling McKenzie rates the attribute more than Wright has in the past. I know Wright put a premium on kicking.

Certainly has a Richmond feel to it. And fair enough.
 

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Massively ramped up this draft. Get the feeling McKenzie rates the attribute more than Wright has in the past. I know Wright put a premium on kicking.

Certainly has a Richmond feel to it. And fair enough.
I think it is driven by a shift away from structured play towards unstructured play. Good teams can attack quickly before the zone is in place. No point having the best zone and foot skills if teams jet out of their backline and get it down the other end before you can set up. Less stoppages means less chances to reset. And it is becoming impossible to get out of defence if you can’t out sprint your opposition into space.
 

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Massively ramped up this draft. Get the feeling McKenzie rates the attribute more than Wright has in the past. I know Wright put a premium on kicking.

Certainly has a Richmond feel to it. And fair enough.
And by all reports we were also looking to draft Max Holmes up until the Cats moved up and nabbed him from us. He smashed the 20m sprint at the NAB AFL Draft Combine. I reckon the new manning the mark rules will make players with speed extremely valuable so will be interesting to see how it all plays out.
 

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I think it is driven by a shift away from structured play towards unstructured play. Good teams can attack quickly before the zone is in place. No point having the best zone and foot skills if teams jet out of their backline and get it down the other end before you can set up. Less stoppages means less chances to reset. And it is becoming impossible to get out of defence if you can’t out sprint your opposition into space.
The Tigers model. Modern game, proven success. Most will be doing it.
 

OnTheRocks

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The Tigers model. Modern game, proven success. Most will be doing it.
If we are to go down that path then we really do need at least 2 marking and goal kicking forwards, Geelong know it and so does Bris. so they get a key forward each.
Gunston out could have a huge impact on our ability score.
 

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Yes we have a clear focus on speed. This started a couple of years ago but really escalated this offseason. * indicates above average pace (at least for a their position)

2016
Mitchell
O'Meara*
Vickery
Henderson*

Morrison
Lewis

Hanrahan*
Fitzpatrick
Nash*

2017
Impey*

Worpel*
Moore
Ross

Jones
Mira
Wilsmore
Cousins
CJ*

2018
Mitchington*
Scrimshaw
Scully*
Wingard*

Kosi*
Walker

Geaves
Golds*
Mohr
Reeves

2019
Frost*
Patton

Day*
Maginness*
Morris*

Hartley
Jeka*
Pepper*
Booksby
Mitchington*

2020
Hartigan
Phillips

DGB*
Mitchell*
Downie*
Brockman*

Saunders*
Think you might find Fitzpatrick had some toe as well.
 

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when we were a running machine of a side our HBs and HFs were basically extra mids with the likes of Birch, Osborne Bateman filling positions. All had great running ability and explosive speed.

Impey on one wing and Philips on the other this year.

Hb line Scrimmers DGB Frost/ Day
HFs Breust O’Brien Wingard
 

Ned Ryerson

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when we were a running machine of a side our HBs and HFs were basically extra mids with the likes of Birch, Osborne Bateman filling positions. All had great running ability and explosive speed.

Impey on one wing and Philips on the other this year.

Hb line Scrimmers DGB Frost/ Day
HFs Breust O’Brien Wingard
Interesting. When we first recruited Impey wasn’t there talk of building his tank so he could play outside mid in future?
 
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