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  1. 1981

    1981 Norm Smith Medallist

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    Last year's trade period was very unique for us, a massive amount of activity with certain trades dependent on previous trades. So much so unless you really sit down and look closely at the various activities you won't understand these activities. In that context I do look at the final outcome, and not the individual parts. That's how I evaluate it. If you evaluate it differently then all power to you.
     

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  2. 1981

    1981 Norm Smith Medallist

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    Windhover, seriously, whatever ..
     
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  3. The Old Dark Navy's

    The Old Dark Navy's Up, Up Cronulla

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    That's fine where the Crows and GWS trades were concerned. Definitely go together as part of a bigger trade.

    I doubt very much that we traded Bell with a view to package that pick with our second rounder to obtain the Dogs first rounder late in the draft. Definitely two separate trades not dependent on each other for mine.
     
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    1981 Norm Smith Medallist

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    I accept that SOS maybe didn't plan for it to be used that way, however I think it is pretty obvious SOS had a strategy to bundle picks and on-trade. He was wheelin' and dealin' the entire trade period. At the end of the day that is what the final wash up was, and that is what I judge, in its entirety.
     
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    gbatman Brownlow Medallist

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    Weren't those picks meant to be Tomlinson and ended up being Curnow?
     
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  6. BluesRule

    BluesRule Club Legend

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    It may take a little longer, but Curnow trade upgrade is starting to look very good. Still would like Tomlinson, but hoping Curnow will be the better player.
     
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    gbatman Brownlow Medallist

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    yeah I think so, Curnow has a heap of potential, it's a pity we can't have our cake and eat it too!
     
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  8. Big Sim is Back

    Big Sim is Back Club Legend

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    There you go Batty, with a cherry on top and all. Tuck in son.

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    gbatman Brownlow Medallist

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    Where's the rest of it!
     
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  10. Big Sim is Back

    Big Sim is Back Club Legend

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    Accomodated comfortably in my ample tummy
     
  11. rog1995

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    One thing is we can't afford to have any misses anymore with top 10-30 selections. I can't remember when we selected a player in that range that turned out to be a 200 game player for us Cripps being the exception. Anyone can select the number one Draft pick but it's the mid range selections that has really hurt us.
     
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    therubbernub Club Legend

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    what is sos's strike rate in the 10-30 range i wonder?
     
  13. DaVillaBlues

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    I think we actually got paid (slight) overs for Tom Bell, thought Brisbane were quite decent in their trade negotiations, considered how we did fleece them for Doc a couple of years ago.

    Tomlinson will be much harder to get next time around, mainly due to Ham McCarthy being a spoilt sooky sooky la la. (If he wasn't happy at GWS and wanted to return home to Perth, why sign a contract extension last year ?)
     
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    1981 Norm Smith Medallist

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    So his club don't get screwed??
     
  15. My name geoff

    My name geoff Premiership Player

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    Troy Menzel's 40 games at Carlton:
    356 disposals
    151 marks
    46 goals
    25 tackles

    Kerridge + GWS 4 from 5 games average this year:
    353 disposals
    94 marks
    16 goals
    68 tackles

    If the 5 players continue at the exact trajectory as they currently are, then by the time they reach Menzel's 40 games at Carlton:

    2824 disposals
    752 marks
    288 goals
    544 tackles

    Apart from being an all time great of our football club,full back of the century, establishing a father/son academy which is required to accommodate just your sons alone, Stephen Silvagni, what have you done for us lately?
     
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    Freo probably offered him more money.
     
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    Wickzki Brownlow Medallist

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    Per Player

    D: 2824 / 5 = 564.8 = big win
    M: 752 / 5 = 150.4 = push
    G: 288 / 5 = 57.6 = big win
    T: 544 / 5 = 108.8 = big win

    All wins and definitely all young enough to keep that pace up.
     
  18. My name geoff

    My name geoff Premiership Player

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    I love that SOS recruited 5 players in the ND and in their first season 4 of them have already proven that they can play AFL footy.

    When was the last time that has happened?
     
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    We might need some generational clarification on the thread title.

    There's a few candidates ;)
     
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    We have never done that, some years it was a luxury to get 2.
     
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  22. Moe B

    Moe B Club Legend

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    Tomlinson has shown nothing though, Curnow will almost certainly be a better player... Don't get the hype on that guy!! Would actually rather stewart...
     
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  23. thylacine60

    thylacine60 TheBrownDog

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    bear with me......just checking the archives now.........won't be a mo..........bringing up the relevant period aaaaaaaaand

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    ........er, never.
     
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  24. My name geoff

    My name geoff Premiership Player

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    Marchbank's game on the weekend in my mind fully justified silvagni's determination to get him across and has further enhanced my confidence in sos as a recruiter.
     
  25. F the Rest

    F the Rest Club Legend

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    He looks the goods but let's not go too early, Kristian Jacksch starred in his first pre-season games for us as well.