Steven Silvagni: Football's Biggest Fraud

[chunkylover53]

Dodoro became LM in 2010, So going into his 10th, hopefully the elusive final win and more is around the corner.

Took Blair Hartley 7 years to win Richmond a flag, SOS @ 5 years.

It doesn't happen overnight.

Hartley also made plenty of blues along the way.

Yarran for a 1st rounder
Hampson for a 2nd rounder
Ben Lennon @ 12 before Cripps

Was often crucified for bringing guys like Houli and Grigg in every year.

List managers * up all the time, people just hate SOS coz he's a rooster and probably ****ed their missos when he was younger, or maybe still does.

 

[Marcel Proust]

Lol 'basket case'.

In 2019 we sacked our coach and were 1-10 and still managed:

75k members
One of the highest attendance average
Cripps 3rd in (?) Brownlow
Walsh Rising Star
7 wins
Not one player asking to leave the club
3 players nominate to get to us (Papley, Martin, Pittonet)

But yep, a basket case. We will get Martin in the PSD and it's a shame about Papley but not a huge deal.

Have a recruit called Sam Docherty who should be handy next year too.

Good times are comin' but as someone else said, get some cheap shots in while you can.

14th, 16th, 18th, 16th ...

worse record than the suns, up until very recently in if you take a longer term view than this season

 

[TheShardMan]

if u took sos at his word these last few years, then u should be disappointed he got only betts and pittonet. martin very likely for free gives added points. but hes been promising blues fans a gun for a long time and hes got no one. don't say papley and other guns werent available bcos hes had years to prepare and deliver. even minnow clubs can target a big signing and get it done.

does the list improve after this trade period? yes, but its only marginal and not what he set the bar at.

kinda like ur boss promising u a 3 month bonus but only giving u 3 days. sure u got more money in ur pocket but it ain't much comfort when u see everyone else's boss delivering on their 3 months.

 

[Milanista28]

Hartley also made plenty of blues along the way.

Yarran for a 1st rounder
Hampson for a 2nd rounder
Ben Lennon @ 12 before Cripps

Was often crucified for bringing guys like Houli and Grigg in every year.

List managers fu** up all the time, people just hate SOS coz he's a rooster and probably f’ed their missos when he was younger, or maybe still does.

It's not an easy job, most do more good than bad IMO. Like you said they make mistakes all the time.

 

[JohnnyFontane90]

Up until 2 days ago his list management over carlton's list rebuild was excellent.

Dropped the ball big time with papely and my suspicion is that SOS simply doesn't rate small forwards and how important they are in modern footy. It's the one area of GWS list that's been average despite their wealth of talent so he has form in neglecting small forwards.

 

[AuntyBlindEye]

Dodo would be just about as bad wouldn't he?

 

[james Dean]

14th, 16th, 18th, 16th ...

worse record than the suns, up until very recently in if you take a longer term view than this season

Who’s in a better position right now? Carlton or Gold Coast?

 

[Marcel Proust]

Who’s in a better position right now? Carlton or Gold Coast?

i like rowell

 

[Elmer_Judd]

if u took sos at his word these last few years, then u should be disappointed he got only betts and pittonet. martin very likely for free gives added points. but hes been promising blues fans a gun for a long time and hes got no one. don't say papley and other guns werent available bcos hes had years to prepare and deliver. even minnow clubs can target a big signing and get it done.

does the list improve after this trade period? yes, but its only marginal and not what he set the bar at.

kinda like ur boss promising u a 3 month bonus but only giving u 3 days. sure u got more money in ur pocket but it ain't much comfort when u see everyone else's boss delivering on their 3 months.

Please show us publicly where SOS made all these statements ?

Also at least we are not losing one A Grade player a year to a rival club like Freo are.

 

[OnceWeWereKings]

perhaps but stats are very overrated. its not supercoach

Caddy kicked 50 odd goals last season btw. newSOS gunna do that statman?



butler might do well

oh wait, wrong team

I'm going to stop after this because its too easy.

I've just given you comparisons / facts / context which you've then completely ignored with your simpleton response.

You've then gone on to state "Caddy kicked 50 odd goals last season...." implying it has some sort of relevance in comparing the two.....

Yes, Caddy did kick 50 (46) odd goals last year. In his eighth season as a 26 year old.

If your not disputing the relevant career track of the two players and then add some linear context, its not a stretch to argue Silvagni could achieve similar output at some stage of his career.

 

[Socrates2]

He's just not suited to the job plus he shouldn't have two of his children on the list. He should be a defensive coach.

 

[Socrates2]

Carlton supporters are defending SOS like they did with Brendan Bolton. Sometimes you have to face the realistic situation and SOS has a terrible record.

 

[james Dean]

i like rowell

That didn't answer the question at all.

 

[cfc4life]

A 4 year rebuild should have shown progress by now.

Climbing from 18th to 16th in 4 years isn't very promising.

How's the past 10 years gone for your mob?

Also its really quite unbelievable how Carlton can't pick up any decent small forwards with the picks they have been handed out for under performing.

Fantasia - pick 56
Tippa - Rookie
Stack - Rookie
R. Gray - pick 55

Carlton are dead set terrible at developing players.

You only chose two of these, and passed on the other two exactly like every other team in the league. Fantasia was a good pick I'll pay that. Tippa was given to you when you took prohibited substances and lost three quarters of your side to suspension remember?

Langford had more of every stat except for 1 less goal than Gibbons this year. He played 4 less games than Gibbons.

Your players aren't that good. No need to get so upset over it.

Langford was a first round pick 5 years ago, Gibbons just had his first season in the AFL and was a rookie selection.

 

[OnceWeWereKings]

Let's come back in 13 years and see if SOS' list has won a final. If he hasn't, only then can he be compared to the great Dodoro

Some records are just not meant to be broken.

 

[SickQwon]

Now that Socrates has chimed in, it's officially a nuffie party. Are we missing anyone else? Darthbards?

 

[OnceWeWereKings]

Now that Socrates has chimed in, it's officially a nuffie party. Are we missing anyone else? Darthbards?

Fadge & MOC are on the way !!

 

[cfc4life]

Now that Socrates has chimed in, it's officially a nuffie party. Are we missing anyone else? Darthbards?

Where's Starchamber

 

[The Warlord]

Carlton have been s**t the whole time I've been on BF.

There was a time when I hated them more than Essendon.

 

[The Warlord]

Or I'd be the clown blowing the balloons at the we hate carlton nuffie party.

 

[SBYM]

They say plagiarism is the sincerest form of flattery.

Decent troll, hasn't got s**t on my 'Who won the Judd/Kennedy trade' thread but...

 

[FRUMPY]

Carlton have been s**t the whole time I've been on BF.

There was a time when I hated them more than Essendon.

Then get off BF please......

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[The Warlord]

Then get off BF please......

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Why did you say Facebook first?

 

[Collins-Langford-Ayres]

He's just not suited to the job plus he shouldn't have two of his children on the list. He should be a defensive coach.

He was a scragger as a player. Nothing to suggest he has the mind to be a defensive coach.

Should be a coterie meeter and greeter, along with Judd. Neither seem fit for the roles they have been given.

 

[gullie man]

Love reading these "lets lay into everything Carlton" threads, I just sit back with a smug look on my face and wonder, how did our club manage to head * so many people?