You need to look at GCS involvement in Hogan, Neale, Beams, May overall deal. Without GCS involvement none of this deal get done. How boring is it!!! Two week without a deal get done.
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Obviously in jest, but I sometimes wonder if it would be possible to assign some sort of value to the players on each list, compare them and assign draft points accordingly as a more "true" equalisation measure. I don't think there's any way to do it objectively though, short of something as riddled with problems as AFL player ratings. Perhaps the salary cap is as close as it ever gets..
Why not? How many Home and away (travel) games players played back in old days where Hawthorn get priority pick compare to now.
Because it's unfair on 17 other clubs. Adelaide took a big gamble to trading for Carlton's first this year and and deserve to be rewarded if it pays off for them. No club should be gifted a free pick before all 18 teams have had a chance to make a selection. Everyone should have an opportunity to draft the player they want before potentially missing out to a pick that was just given to a team.
And their gamble was made with the knowledge that priority picks can be awarded by the AFL at their discretion, and that picks can be pushed back by extra picks being awarded, as happened in 2018. They should have no complaints whatsoever, they accepted that risk when they made the trade.
Good, so with that in mind I'm sure your club won't mind paying back the points used for your two priority picks, as GUMBLETRON mentioned above. After all, not everyone had an opportunity to draft the player they want before potentially missing out to a pick that was just given to a team, in those two drafts.
I mean you can try and be snarky towards me but i agree that Hawthorn shouldn't have been given any priority picks, i don't like them for any club. I can't change what happened i am totally within my rights to be of the opinion that all 18 clubs should have the opportunity to make a selection at the Draft before any extra picks are handed out. An end of first round pick is hardly trash.
You seem sensitive, my comment was about Hawthorn, not you personally. You are of course entitled to your opinion, and so am I. My opinion is that the management of Hawthorn, or any other club that received a priority pick, should say nothing at all about the fairness of priority picks in the present day until and unless they return the points they in turn were gifted. If we're going by that principle you outlined above.
Did you hold the same belief when Hawthorn got their three priority picks? Hawthorn, Carlton and Melbourne have all had three picks at the start of the 1st round. The GCS are a basket case, much worse than what those teams ever were. Now those teams and Collingwood are allowed to use the northern clubs as their recruitment grounds.
Then why was it fair when your team gained Hodge, Roughead and Ellis? The priority pick was the main reason behind your premiership success. I find it extremely hypocritical of Hawks supporters to now be against the GCS getting one. Now that you've milked the system for all it's worth you now want to get rid of it.
No... I don't think it was fair when we gained from it... Not hypocritical and i am being totally consistent with my opinion.
You really like to embelish things..the last front ended PP was issued 10 YEARS AGO. No way did the crows have full knowledge that it might happen. I have provided commentary from the clubs themselves pushing back against PP's and the reasons they give and live pick trading is front and centre of that argument. As for start up concessions - GC had far far far more assistance by way of draft concessions, opportunity to poach players etc than the crows ever did. No one is denying that the AFL should not give further assistance to the Suns but those that are fair minded and understand the effort and resources that go into the setting up for a draft from the clubs also understand why no front end PP should be given. It is only those shouting from the cheap seats that don't have an understanding of this
Did AFL inform all team that when Adelaide and Carlton exchange pick there won't be any priority pick given this year , don't do thing based on assumption.
On the other hand did the AFL say they were going to give a front end PP?..if not then maybe adelaide has a good case to go the AFL for full compensation as they may not have done the pick swap if the AFL were going to award a front end PP
What? How were the Suns not set up properly?
What has GWS getting have to go with the GC not being set up properly? GWS got way over the top imo.
Because they didn't get the same concessions. GWS had both a recruiting advantage over Gold Coast and also prevented them getting an additional #1 overall pick, which boosted GWS' eventual rise at the expense of Gold Coast's.
Because it's an example of the AFL's neglect of them. People crap on all the time about culture and how crowds play a part in the decision of a player to stay or go.
It doesn’t change the fact the Gold Coast had 10 wins after 4 season and looked finals bound. They got given enough. They made decisions that turned their fortunes around, regardless of what GWS got, GWS can’t afford to keep what they got given.
