List Mgmt. The Kelly and All Draft and Trades Discussion Thread- #freetim #ITSHAPPENING

[ConcreteWaters]

Can we just get some clarification in here - if Kelly walks to the draft It’s the pre season draft, not the national draft, and you can’t trade picks in the PSD. So no, we can’t simply move up the draft order if Kelly walks, and given it’s based on previous finishing order, we’d need to rely on none of the 13 clubs before us selecting him


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I think he can nominate for either (or both?). I thought the same, but was corrected by a more knowledgeable poster. I guess it would mean that we would just need to trade up to below Freo in that case and tell Tim we'll take him. We can then shop the pick to Geelong and say, if you don't take it, we'll pick him up with it anyway.

 

[MrKK]

The last few days of this thread proves yet again that we have the best club board on BF. Not even close.

And here was me thinking I might take a few weeks off, now i can't look away.

 

[WillieNillie]

Deal is pretty much done already ive been told. A few nicetieis being figured our regarding a swap of 2nd rounders in 2020 to this year may hold it up a little but in principle its done

Eagles will obtain Hawks pick 11 for our 2 2nd rounders which goes to F/S bid. We then trade pick 11 and 14 for Kelly but get a 2nd rounder back this year of some sort from Geelong

 

[Trav22]

We play as a defensive unit. We had a long period this year without TB and went alright


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The defensive unit part is true, but with TB out of the side we got severely shown up.
When he did come back he was completely out of form and we payed the price in a few games (the RD 22 Game against Richmond being one of them IIRC). My point being you still need a strong key lock down defender for the 1v1 contest against power forwards. TB leaves we are screwed

 

[Trav22]

I think he can nominate for either (or both?). I thought the same, but was corrected by a more knowledgeable poster. I guess it would mean that we would just need to trade up to below Freo in that case and tell Tim we'll take him. We can then shop the pick to Geelong and say, if you don't take it, we'll pick him up with it anyway.

If he enters the draft will he be set to a rookie wage/ 2 year contract ?

 

[Art OF war]

If he enters the draft will he be set to a rookie wage/ 2 year contract ?

No- you can set your terms.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

If he enters the draft will he be set to a rookie wage/ 2 year contract ?

No. As a current player he can specify his total salary and length of deal.

 

[kerr87]

Deal is pretty much done already ive been told. A few nicetieis being figured our regarding a swap of 2nd rounders in 2020 to this year may hold it up a little but in principle its done

Eagles will obtain Hawks pick 11 for our 2 2nd rounders which goes to F/S bid. We then trade pick 11 and 14 for Kelly but get a 2nd rounder back this year of some sort from Geelong

Pick 14, 22, 32 for Kelly + 2nd

Looks good.

 

[mattyc75]

Haha same. Had one or two funny bits

Maybe i was asleep for those bits

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[wraglesweb]

Deal is pretty much done already ive been told. A few nicetieis being figured our regarding a swap of 2nd rounders in 2020 to this year may hold it up a little but in principle its done

Eagles will obtain Hawks pick 11 for our 2 2nd rounders which goes to F/S bid. We then trade pick 11 and 14 for Kelly but get a 2nd rounder back this year of some sort from Geelong

Hot sauce or tomato sauce ?

 

[Trav22]

Robertson, Rivers and Sharp all likely heading too freo
If they receive pick 6 and 22 for hill and Langdon.
(Along with there original draft picks)

Disappointing!!!

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Robertson, Rivers and Sharp all likely heading too freo
If they receive pick 6 and 22 for hill and Langdon.
(Along with there original draft picks)

Disappointing!!!

In the past two drafts they’ve taken one West Australian in a total of 11 picks - mature age ruckman Scott Jones who was taken with their seventh and final pick in 2017. They’ve taken as many Tasmanians as West Aussies.

So how exactly is it “likely” that they’ll load up on all the local players you happen to like? It’s possible. But likely?

And are you suggesting that we pull out of the Kelly deal in the hope of getting to those players first?

 

[Trav22]

In the past two drafts they’ve taken one West Australian in a total of 11 picks - mature age ruckman Scott Jones who was taken with their seventh and final pick in 2017. They’ve taken as many Tasmanians as West Aussies.

So how exactly is it “likely” that they’ll load up on all the local players you happen to like? It’s possible. But likely?

And are you suggesting that we pull out of the Kelly deal in the hope of getting to those players first?

More of my opinion than anything else, just seeing as they will “likely” have a lot of early and mid round picks and from what I’ve seen the 3 WA boys are quality. Chances are they may only pick 1 of the 3 up come draft day, just trying to get the ball rolling past 159 odd pages of Tim Kelly trade hypotheticals.
I’m a bit over it

 

[Trav22]

And No, not suggesting we pull out of the Kelly deal at all. Don’t know how u came to that conclusion

 

[Wadsworth]

true but at the end of the day, we didn`t want him enough ,which was understandable ..

Hindsight shows we probably could have gone back to back this year if we had gotten Kelly ..To compete with Richmond and get a edge and keep improving ..We need to make sure we don`t mess this up ..

Difficult to make that leap. My view is that we probably lacked the mental hunger to win it this year. In a professional sporting environment, being even the slightest bit off can derail us. We added talent in Gaff, Shep and Naitanui to the team that won through the finals last year, but we’d put ourselves behind the 8-ball by not finishing top 2 (or at least top 4). And that came down to just not switching on enough rather than talent.

 

[Wadsworth]

Getting the impression that this will be done on Monday. This has been coming for 12 months, a lot of huffing and puffing has taken place in public and both clubs have other deals in mind that can only take place after this one has been concluded.

It is in the best interests of all parties (particularly T.Kelly) to get this out of the way early and move on.


Phone has been buzzing all night but have only just got in from a few drinks and will leave it until tomorrow now before going through them. If there turns out to be anything worthwhile, I'll add it here later on.

Oi! Dylan. DYLAN, you son-of-a-gun. It’s tomorrow already. Wake up and tell us the trade news. WillieNillie has already overtaken you with the Kelly update.

 

[ROO DOGG]

I think this is the first time in my life that i just want the weekend to be over and Monday come. So much anticipation.

 

[archiemoses]

Getting the impression that this will be done on Monday. This has been coming for 12 months, a lot of huffing and puffing has taken place in public and both clubs have other deals in mind that can only take place after this one has been concluded.

It is in the best interests of all parties (particularly T.Kelly) to get this out of the way early and move on.


Phone has been buzzing all night but have only just got in from a few drinks and will leave it until tomorrow now before going through them. If there turns out to be anything worthwhile, I'll add it here later on.

Wake up Dylan!

 

[ROO DOGG]

Difficult to make that leap. My view is that we probably lacked the mental hunger to win it this year. In a professional sporting environment, being even the slightest bit off can derail us. We added talent in Gaff, Shep and Naitanui to the team that won through the finals last year, but we’d put ourselves behind the 8-ball by not finishing top 2 (or at least top 4). And that came down to just not switching on enough rather than talent.

Also a very tough draw, AFL pretty much gifted our spot in the 4 to Richmond

 

[kerrazy]

Dylan82, wanna spend a night with me?

 

[Wadsworth]

Wake up Dylan!

Cmon, Dylan. We need our trade news. If I start yelling at the kids unnecessarily because I’m in a bad mood while waiting for my trade news, that’s on you, Dylan.

 

[ziad]

I think this is the first time in my life that i just want the weekend to be over and Monday come. So much anticipation.

Ha, we have a long weekend

 

[twotooto]

Deal is pretty much done already ive been told. A few nicetieis being figured our regarding a swap of 2nd rounders in 2020 to this year may hold it up a little but in principle its done

Eagles will obtain Hawks pick 11 for our 2 2nd rounders which goes to F/S bid. We then trade pick 11 and 14 for Kelly but get a 2nd rounder back this year of some sort from Geelong

You seem to get "told" a lot of things and I don't recall seeing any of them actually come to pass. Do you get your jollies making up bullshit and posting it on the net as if you're in the know?

FMD what is it with these dribblers.

 

[WillieNillie]

Our handling of the

Pick 14, 22, 32 for Kelly + 2nd

Looks good.

Not quitem we give up 2020 2nd rounder too to get a better one in 2019 (cos we win the flag etc)

 

[InTheWings]

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Looks like Geelong management are having a bit of fun on his wikipedia page. Jesus, at least make a proper sentence!

Two can play that game.