The only stat that matters

[knighter 33]

% of grand finals won by teams with at least 20 appearances in vfl/afl history

Carlton - 55.1
Richmond - 54.1/52 (depending on 1924 interpretation per individual)
Essendon - 53.3/51.7 (depending on 1924 interpretation per individual)
For some reason the biggest club in the land, whither the land? - 35.7

% of grand finals won by teams with at least 15 appearances in vfl/afl history

Melbourne - 72.2
Hawthorn - 68.4
Brisbane/Fitzroy - 64.7
Carlton - 55.1
Richmond - 54.1/52 (depending on 1924 interpretation per individual)
Essendon - 53.3/51.7 (depending on 1924 interpretation per individual)
Geelong - 50
For some reason the biggest club in the land, whither the land? - 35.7
Sydney/South 2.77

Also rans (aka why are they still in it?)
North Melbourne - 4/9
Western Bulldogs - 2/4
St Kilda - 1/7

Discuss.

 

[MF]

Sydney/South 2.77

How did you come to this number?

 

[knighter 33]

Sydney/South 2.77

How did you come to this number?

 

[knighter 33]

Sydney/South 2.77

How did you come to this number?

Should read 27.7

 

[Liam Boy]

can we have a main board just for richmond supporters?

 

[knighter 33]

can we have a main board just for richmond supporters?

This should fascinate everyone. We’re not even top

 

[Liam Boy]

Only AFL Era Counts (1990 onwards)

Richmond (3/3) - 100%
Hawthorn(5/6) - 83.3%
Brisbane (3/4) - 75%
Adelaide (2/3) - 66%
North Melb (2/3) - 66%
West Coast (4/7) - 57%
Melbourne (1/2) - 50%
Port Adelaide (1/2) - 50%
Essendon (2/4) 50%
Bulldogs (1/2) - 50%
Geelong (4/9) - 44.4%
Carlton (1/3) - 33%
Sydney (2/7) - 28.5%
Collingwood (2/7) - 28.5%
St Kilda (0/4) - 0%
GWS (0/1) - 0%
Fremantle (0/1) - 0%
Gold Coast (0/0) - 0%

Highlights what a moronic stat this is. Hawthorn's 5 premierships is somehow worse than Richmond's 3 because they were only good enough to get to 3 grand finals?

 

[NetworkNerd]

This should fascinate everyone. We’re not even top

Only AFL Era Counts (1990 onwards)

Richmond (3/3) - 100%
Hawthorn(5/6) - 83.3%
Brisbane (3/4) - 75%
Adelaide (2/3) - 66%
North Melb (2/3) - 66%
West Coast (4/7) - 57%
Melbourne (1/2) - 50%
Port Adelaide (1/2) - 50%
Essendon (2/4) 50%
Bulldogs (1/2) - 50%
Geelong (4/9) - 44.4%
Carlton (1/3) - 33%
Sydney (2/7) - 28.5%
Collingwood (2/7) - 28.5%
St Kilda (0/4) - 0%
GWS (0/1) - 0%
Fremantle (0/1) - 0%
Gold Coast (0/0) - 0%

 

[Engimal v3]

North Melbourne is much better than Richmond imo

 

[STPer18]

% of grand finals won by teams with at least 20 appearances in vfl/afl history

Carlton - 55.1
Richmond - 54.1/52 (depending on 1924 interpretation per individual)
Essendon - 53.3/51.7 (depending on 1924 interpretation per individual)
For some reason the biggest club in the land, whither the land? - 35.7

% of grand finals won by teams with at least 15 appearances in vfl/afl history

Melbourne - 72.2
Hawthorn - 68.4
Brisbane/Fitzroy - 64.7
Carlton - 55.1
Richmond - 54.1/52 (depending on 1924 interpretation per individual)
Essendon - 53.3/51.7 (depending on 1924 interpretation per individual)
Geelong - 50
For some reason the biggest club in the land, whither the land? - 35.7
Sydney/South 2.77

Also rans (aka why are they still in it?)
North Melbourne - 4/9
Western Bulldogs - 2/4
St Kilda - 1/7

Discuss.

So hypothetically a team that plays off in one grand final in twenty years and wins it is better than a team that plays off in ten and wins nine? Give yourself an uppercut and see if you can rattle that other brain cell loose.

 

[knighter 33]

Only AFL Era Counts (1990 onwards)

Richmond (3/3) - 100%
Hawthorn(5/6) - 83.3%
Brisbane (3/4) - 75%
Adelaide (2/3) - 66%
North Melb (2/3) - 66%
West Coast (4/7) - 57%
Melbourne (1/2) - 50%
Port Adelaide (1/2) - 50%
Essendon (2/4) 50%
Bulldogs (1/2) - 50%
Geelong (4/9) - 44.4%
Carlton (1/3) - 33%
Sydney (2/7) - 28.5%
Collingwood (2/7) - 28.5%
St Kilda (0/4) - 0%
GWS (0/1) - 0%
Fremantle (0/1) - 0%
Gold Coast (0/0) - 0%

Even better. Finally proof of what tiger fans have been trying to tell the world

 

[knighter 33]

So hypothetically a team that plays off in one grand final in twenty years and wins it is better than a team that plays off in ten and wins nine? Give yourself an uppercut and see if you can rattle that other brain cell loose.

All interpretations equally valid, though you have to stretch it a fair bit to come up with that one. The first list is first for a reason

 

[Captivating]

What about a stat of teams with 40 GF appearances. Who leads that list?

 

[oak79]

Only AFL Era Counts (1990 onwards)

Richmond (3/3) - 100%
Hawthorn(5/6) - 83.3%
Brisbane (3/4) - 75%
Adelaide (2/3) - 66%
North Melb (2/3) - 66%
West Coast (4/7) - 57%
Melbourne (1/2) - 50%
Port Adelaide (1/2) - 50%
Essendon (2/4) 50%
Bulldogs (1/2) - 50%
Geelong (4/9) - 44.4%
Carlton (1/3) - 33%
Sydney (2/7) - 28.5%
Collingwood (2/7) - 28.5%
St Kilda (0/4) - 0%
GWS (0/1) - 0%
Fremantle (0/1) - 0%
Gold Coast (0/0) - 0%

The stat that counts is Winning them. Then Making them.
Winning 1 flag is not better than winning 4...

order fixed:

Hawthorn(5/6) - 83.3%

Geelong (4/9) - 44.4%
West Coast (4/7) - 57%

Brisbane (3/4) - 75%
Richmond (3/3) - 100%

Sydney (2/7) - 28.5%
Collingwood (2/7) - 28.5%
Essendon (2/4) 50%
Adelaide (2/3) - 66%
North Melb (2/3) - 66%

Carlton (1/3) - 33%
Melbourne (1/2) - 50%
Port Adelaide (1/2) - 50%
Bulldogs (1/2) - 50%

St Kilda (0/4) - 0%
GWS (0/1) - 0%
Fremantle (0/1) - 0%
Gold Coast (0/0) - 0%

 

[knighter 33]

What about a stat of teams with 40 GF appearances. Who leads that list?

If you’re happy with just making appearances then you have your reward. Richmond and Carlton fans prefer winning them but whatever

 

[knighter 33]

The stat that counts is Winning them. Then Making them.
Winning 1 flag is not better than winning 4...

order fixed:

Hawthorn(5/6) - 83.3%

Geelong (4/9) - 44.4%
West Coast (4/7) - 57%

Brisbane (3/4) - 75%
Richmond (3/3) - 100%

Sydney (2/7) - 28.5%
Collingwood (2/7) - 28.5%
Essendon (2/4) 50%
Adelaide (2/3) - 66%
North Melb (2/3) - 66%

Carlton (1/3) - 33%
Melbourne (1/2) - 50%
Port Adelaide (1/2) - 50%
Bulldogs (1/2) - 50%

St Kilda (0/4) - 0%
GWS (0/1) - 0%
Fremantle (0/1) - 0%
Gold Coast (0/0) - 0%

As I said, the stat that counts is winning them. VFL should count until the league officially makes the shift. For fairness sake I didn’t include teams that entered post 1925

 

[Blackas87]

If you’re happy with just making appearances then you have your reward. Richmond and Carlton fans prefer winning them but whatever

Melbourne and Hawthorn have won just as many as Richmond, and at higher winning percentage.

But you seperate 20 and 15 appearance. I guess you’re happy rewarding Richmond with the appearances.

 

[oak79]

As I said, the stat that counts is winning them. VFL should count until the league officially makes the shift. For fairness sake I didn’t include teams that entered post 1925

Until the league officially makes the shift? They did, in 1990, to AFL.

Probably best you don't include cups after 1990 either then.

 

[knighter 33]

Melbourne and Hawthorn have won just as many as Richmond, and at higher winning percentage.

But you seperate 20 and 15 appearance. I guess you’re happy rewarding Richmond with the appearances.

I thought 20 was a fair cut off point. Not sure why . Seems fair after 126 years but each to their own I guess

 

[knighter 33]

Until the league officially makes the shift? They did, in 1990, to AFL.

Probably best you don't include cups after 1990 either then.

The shift from including vfl stats. Everyone does it, not just me.

 

[Farang83150]

% of grand finals won by teams with at least 20 appearances in vfl/afl history

Carlton - 55.1
Richmond - 54.1/52 (depending on 1924 interpretation per individual)
Essendon - 53.3/51.7 (depending on 1924 interpretation per individual)
For some reason the biggest club in the land, whither the land? - 35.7

% of grand finals won by teams with at least 15 appearances in vfl/afl history

Melbourne - 72.2
Hawthorn - 68.4
Brisbane/Fitzroy - 64.7
Carlton - 55.1
Richmond - 54.1/52 (depending on 1924 interpretation per individual)
Essendon - 53.3/51.7 (depending on 1924 interpretation per individual)
Geelong - 50
For some reason the biggest club in the land, whither the land? - 35.7
Sydney/South 2.77

Also rans (aka why are they still in it?)
North Melbourne - 4/9
Western Bulldogs - 2/4
St Kilda - 1/7

Discuss.

Who GAF?

 

[knighter 33]

Who GAF?

Victorians GAF

 

[BF Tiger]

s**t thread is s**t

 

[Roddy]

Only one stat TRULY matters…overall premiership frequency/strike rate:

VFL/AFL premiership and grand final statistics - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[HTPunter]

If you’re happy with just making appearances then you have your reward. Richmond and Carlton fans prefer winning them but whatever

Essendon* and Carlton fans prefer winning them

And then Collingwood fans (because even though they’ve lost a lot more, they’ve also won 2 more)

And then Richmond, Hawrhorn & Melbourne…