I don’t think you have to necesssarily be smart to get away with it (it helps), just lucky.
Remember that if WADA didn’t appeal to CAS, then the Essendon 34 would have gotten away with it and that program was a complete shambles.
Rumour The Push up King on the gear?
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I don’t think you have to necesssarily be smart to get away with it (it helps), just lucky.
Remember that if WADA didn’t appeal to CAS, then the Essendon 34 would have gotten away with it and that program was a complete shambles.
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Yeah but implying Richmond has an institutionalised doping program off jakey’s post playing steroid use is a bit of a long bow.
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Bit touchey on that one mate
Shows why we despise robbo
Invited to get on our bus to vic park after the 2010 g/f was sucking up to the ratpack and was brezzed
Never forgot it and went after the club with passion ever since
It's always personal with mark
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Yeah can’t stand the guy. Plus the whole depression thing with fasolo. What *stick actually thinks that let alone writes it.
Didn’t he also write some baseless s**t about the drug culture at Collingwood?
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Of course it is but you guys bits and its a bit of fun in the off season. Better than talking AFLW.
no way push-up king or any other affal players would take peds and roids, they test for them for chrissakes. jake was always clean, this post is a major smear
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I dunno, your chicks team has a better chance of winning the flag over the blokes. Could be more interesting in that sense
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Yep, most hated journo is footy when it comes to Pie fans. Its OK to be a hard arse but you have to be consistent and when we got the pathetic drivel defending Hird from 'Robbo' that was the final straw for me. Do not read, watch or listen to anything he is involved in. Thanks to Hutchy I don't have to change the channel when listening into SEN.
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I am not interested in non core business. I have heard a heap of pies fans saying we can win it cos your mob did. Sadly, I disagree with them.
But I can assure you we put on the best xmas dinner for the homeless.
with those legs, JK looks like he is a competitor at the dwarf throwing championships. #sorrytoalldwarfsoutthere[sic] #dwarvesnotdwarfs
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Yeah the argument falls down when you look at the 5 year trend
you know my position #rfc, basically ALL, and this thread proves no one knows the true parameters and sham of the testing regime, Essendon werent doing anything different, or anything wrong as they have their 'insider' rules. they were scapegoated.
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Duh. Gear is a part of professional sport, it's naive to think that of 800 professional athletes use would be uncommon. Of course Jake was on the juice and no doubt still is.
Full natty brah.
hear hear,
or, phonetics...
here here
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And you know mine, afl should have done a full comprehensive independant audit of all afl clubs. 12 non efc players went to danks clinic, yet nada
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Didn’t know that. Are their names public knowledge?
Chris Judd aka 'Bambi' gave the tell in the Fairfax The Age article. re:dope testing for exogenous testosterone. He talked about the carbon isotope ratios in the printed article, the C12, and C13, and how the C12 was from animal product, and C13 vegetable(soy) product, and they as professional footballers in Perth should have known this. This was circa Essendon or O'Keefe/Thomas at Collingwood.
The thing about the article, Bambi pulled one from the spook(intelligence/spies) handbook, from a limited hangout. But Bambi merely proved he knew esoteric information only valid when one is using a PED program for 'recovery therapy', testo patches post-game, plus whatever other roids in pre-season. #toosmartbyhalf is dumb
NB. I knew about the testo intricacies cos of the Floyd Landis case when he was positive in 2006 to exogenous testosterone, they went into this in detail, re: the carbon isotope exogenous testosterone method testing... when they rarely if ever use the CIR test. because it is more costly, and the entire regime is set-up to allow competitors to use PEDs within certain boundaries. This will detect exogenous testo, not merely testosterone-epitestosterone ratio<which is the indirect arbiter of positive>
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It takes the form of deception, misdirection, or coverup often associated with intelligence agencies involving a release or "mea culpa" type of confession of only part of a set of previously hidden sensitive information, that establishes credibility for the one releasing the information who by the very act of confession appears to be "coming clean" and acting with integrity; but in actuality, by withholding key facts, is protecting a deeper operation and those who could be exposed if the whole truth came out.
In effect, if an array of offenses or misdeeds is suspected, this confession admits to a lesser offense while covering up the greater ones.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limited_hangout https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_techniques that involves the release of previously hidden information in order to prevent a greater exposure of more important details.
It takes the form of deception, misdirection, or coverup often associated with intelligence agencies involving a release or "mea culpa" type of confession of only part of a set of previously hidden sensitive information, that establishes credibility for the one releasing the information who by the very act of confession appears to be "coming clean" and acting with integrity; but in actuality, by withholding key facts, is protecting a deeper operation and those who could be exposed if the whole truth came out.
In effect, if an array of offenses or misdeeds is suspected, this confession admits to a lesser offense while covering up the greater ones.
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lots of the PEDs have a half-life where it is nigh impossible to be tested positive for, plus the other ones where you will test positive, there are equivalent substitutes that cant be tested for... and then if you just dont open the door or the wife/girlfriend says you are 'out' when you are just in bed, but 'glowing' (re:halflife)
#toosmartcantcatchme
Whatya reckon Swannie meant?
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Thought it was steroids and not HGH
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And continue to assist the downtrodden in the fine tradition of social responsibility
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one was the Gold Coast chb who was an all-Australian at Adelaide before he went up when they formed, or a few years after they formed, there were a few Melbourne Demons players, I think one was the captain who had the bad foot or knee and was re-drafted by Adelaide, not Trengrove, the one with the marathon sister... plus some other Melbourne players
edit: twas Trengrove, I was getting Grimes and Trengrove conflated innit
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Yeah in many ways your progress was almost classical, a few years of being there abouts, a step back and then the surge. What Pies fans fail to understand is that Buckley has taken us backwards every year whereas apart from 2016, Hardwick did the opposite.
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If I want to give to a charity I can. I follow Collingwood for FLAGS, something we consistently fail at. So you enjoy that social do gooding.
Collingwood will throw 2mill per at GCs cap'n Lynch this year, prolly land him, but wont realise, that this JohnElliot Carlton1980s model, has now less potency, and is actually an anchor. New model in AFL, if finding a balanced22, and so this is something even the list-management idiot boffins wont appreciate, they will never shape the 22 and club culture, and how the starting 18field the posture and coach's strategy. Dimma Hardwick is an idiot, he happened upon the strategy by accident, cos of Griffith's concussions, and the AFL's concerns about the NFL class-action suits. It was a tail-wagging dog policy at Affal house. Collingwood needing to recruit a 'franchise player', a marketing face, someone to appease those club members, and as long as they make the salary cap work with the Fremantle Mayne recruit, or whatever the curly hair guy is called, as long as that salary is not too much an anchor, well, Tom Lynch's salary will be an anchor. Devil's advocate: the 1.3 million Ralph Carr got out of Richmond, will this be an anchor too? or Boyd at Footscray? good question @Lind_Lovelace. Cos I think they could be, when the Richmond list wanna get paid too.
riddle me this...
Is Dean Kemp and Craig Turley still surfing at Margaret River or are they 6 feet under?
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I have seen two flags and both were built around the development of young talent with some veterans and canny recruiting led to flags. Chasing big names normally ends in failure. As for the riddle I believe both are still well.
