List Mgmt. Trade and F/A - Part 3

[Jen2310]

10 days til trade period starts.
It'll be here before we know it.

 

[MyManLynch]

10 days til trade period starts.
It'll be here before we know it.

It’s already alive & kicking on BF.

 

[manicpie]

10 days til trade period starts.
It'll be here before we know it.

When is DFA open?

 

[partypie]

It’s already alive & kicking on BF.

It hasn't really started in earnest until capology season has commenced.

 

[TradeDraft]

It’s already alive & kicking on BF.

Does it ever end on BigFooty?

 

[partypie]

When is DFA open?

You can find a list of tentative (TBC) dates here on BF (link).

I assume that this post will be updated (either progressively or all at once) when offseason dates are confirmed.

 

[whiskeytown]

It's going to be a long re-build, as we are starting from so far behind - we need to target recruiting on every area of the ground, because our group that are 20-24 are comfortably the worst in the league. People are talking about a 4 year re-build, but in four years time, that group where we are a long way behind the pack, will be the dominant age group in the league.

Midfielders yes, small forwards in McReery and Ginnivan yes... but I struggle to see more than one of Murphy, Wilson, W Kelly, Keane as part of any dominant defence

 

[MyManLynch]

It hasn't really started in earnest until capology season has commenced.

I didn’t think Collingwood indulged…

 

[Jen2310]

When is DFA open?

I'd assume around end of October. Usually a week or two after the trade period.

 

[snagbreac]

Lipinski's gone quiet in the rumour mill. I think if there was a player we could walk to the draft, it's him and we'd have reason to after Treloar.

In: N. Daicos, Y. Dib, N Kreuger and P. Lipinski
Out: A. Tohill, L. Greenwood, C. Mayne and M. Lynch.

Cox and Thomas may also find new homes. Interest has to be there otherwise I'd just re-sign them.

 

[TradeDraft]

Lipinski's gone quiet in the rumour mill. I think if there was a player we could walk to the draft, it's him and we'd have reason to after Treloar.

In: N. Daicos, Y. Dib, N Kreuger and P. Lipinski
Out: A. Tohill, L. Greenwood, C. Mayne and M. Lynch.

Cox and Thomas may also find new homes. Interest has to be there otherwise I'd just re-sign them.

I think it's gone quiet because the Talk it's a Done Deal and he is not Exactly a Big Name

 

[snagbreac]

I'd assume around end of October. Usually a week or two after the trade period.

Lore posted this elsewhere:

AFL TRADE, DRAFT AND FREE AGENCY DATES 2021

Grand Final
Saturday September 25 (we hope!)

Restricted and Unrestricted Free Agency Window
Friday October 1 – Friday October 8

Trade Period
Players: Monday October 4 – Wednesday October 13
Picks: Monday October 4 – tbc (approx. Friday November 19)

Draft Combine (Metro, Regional & State)
tbc (possibly October 9 & 10)

List Lodgement 1
tbc (approx. Thursday October 28)

Delisted Free Agency Window 1
tbc (approx. Friday October 29 - Monday November 8)

List Lodgement 2 (Final date for primary list delistings)
tbc (approx. Tuesday November 9)

Delisted Free Agency Window 2
tbc (approx. Wednesday November 10 - Friday November 19)

National Draft
Wednesday November 24 (Round 1)
Thursday November 25 (Round 2 through to conclusion)

Preseason and Rookie Drafts
Friday November 26

Final List Lodgement
tbc (Mid-December)

Pre-Season Supplemental Selection Period (SSP)
tbc

 

[Jen2310]

Lipinski's gone quiet in the rumour mill. I think if there was a player we could walk to the draft, it's him and we'd have reason to after Treloar.

In: N. Daicos, Y. Dib, N Kreuger and P. Lipinski
Out: A. Tohill, L. Greenwood, C. Mayne and M. Lynch.

Cox and Thomas may also find new homes. Interest has to be there otherwise I'd just re-sign them.

Probably because its as good as done at this point. Should be done early once the trade period opens up. I think we'll try to avoid PSD if you can, dont need relationships even more fractured than they might be. But if dogs get stubborn, then its a chance.

 

[Scodog10]

This is why I was open to J Kelly from the crows as a F/A.

Madgen, Ruscoe, Murphy, W Kelly, Wilson, Keane...

I can see Madgen playing near 100 games by default. Ruscoe looks positive... but the rest really could all easily be failures and not on the list by the end of 2023

We could do with some proven mature body defenders or we fall into a hole once Roughead and Howe go

It’s the reason why I had zero interest in Kelly. We need quality and there’s no point wasting time and cap space on a guy who’s peak is 6/10 when we need to chop a bunch of 3-4/10 types. The positive for me is that these guys can be found at any pick you just need to focus on the right traits. The problem with all three of our guys is they’re slow and average to poor overhead.

Edit: you’re more likely to get near 100 games than Madgen. He’s 29 on ANZAC day next year and would need to play almost three full seasons to get to 100. Considering he should be delisted this year there’s no chance.

 

[Shannin]

Lipinski's gone quiet in the rumour mill. I think if there was a player we could walk to the draft, it's him and we'd have reason to after Treloar.

In: N. Daicos, Y. Dib, N Kreuger and P. Lipinski
Out: A. Tohill, L. Greenwood, C. Mayne and M. Lynch.

Cox and Thomas may also find new homes. Interest has to be there otherwise I'd just re-sign them.

If the club is going to be brutally honest about the list, there will be at least 8 outs.

 

[Silky23]

Nobody actually knows outside of those within GC and Essendon. It’s pointless to throw out numbers here, everyone is just guessing.

Does not change the fact GC are paying a significant portion of his salary. That is fact. We would not have been paying him much at all. That’s the realisation, it’s not suiting any narrative.

 

[TradeDraft]

If the club is going to be brutally honest about the list, there will be at least 8 outs.

Doubt this Season but with next season with over Half the List out of Contract we could see a Big Cull

 

[Jen2310]

Collingwood and the Western Bulldogs already have history over the Adam Treloar

1

Adam Treloar

Age

31

Ht

185cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

28.2

5star

K

12.9

5star

HB

15.3

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

4.9

5star

CL

4.6

5star

D

30.3

5star

K

16.3

5star

HB

14.0

5star

M

2.0

2star

T

3.3

4star

CL

5.8

5star

D

18.0

5star

K

11.2

4star

HB

6.8

5star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.6

4star

CL

1.6

4star

trade – and who was paying his contract in 2021 – and now might be in for Round 2 over what Patrick Lipinski

1

Patrick Lipinski

Age

25

Ht

190cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.0

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

10.2

5star

M

3.5

4star

T

2.8

4star

CL

1.5

4star

D

18.3

4star

K

7.0

3star

HB

11.3

5star

M

2.5

3star

T

2.7

4star

CL

1.3

4star

D

15.2

4star

K

6.6

3star

HB

8.6

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.4

4star

CL

1.2

4star

is worth at the draft table.

The Dogs will point to the three-year deal they put in front of the inside midfielder as proof of how much they wanted him at the club.

The Pies will point to the fact he has hardly been in the Dogs extended squad – let alone in the AFL side – for the second half of the year.

Both clubs will use all of their draft points this year on father-son prospects, so would a swap of future picks get it done?

Or a third-rounder next year?

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[Timmy from Thomastown]

We picked up about 10 first year players last year on minimum chips because that’s all our cap would allow.

We couldn’t afford any players from other clubs....subsidy or no subsidy.

 

[Pragmatic Shill]

I can handle minimal cuts this year because McRae might want to come in and see what he can do with the existing list. I don't think he'll be able to do too much because I don't rate a lot of the stock but I'd back him backing himself.

 

[partypie]

I didn’t think Collingwood indulged…

Select BF Collingwood board posters certainly do. Just not that sort of "capology".

 

[partypie]

Collingwood and the Western Bulldogs already have history over the Adam Treloar trade – and who was paying his contract in 2021 – and now might be in for Round 2 over what Patrick Lipinski is worth at the draft table.

The Dogs will point to the three-year deal they put in front of the inside midfielder as proof of how much they wanted him at the club.

The Pies will point to the fact he has hardly been in the Dogs extended squad – let alone in the AFL side – for the second half of the year.

Both clubs will use all of their draft points this year on father-son prospects, so would a swap of future picks get it done?

Or a third-rounder next year?

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Or no pick at all and he walks to the PSD. Hun sports writers are seriously stupid with their persistent anti-Collingwood bias(es) just trying to get clicks.

 

[Quicky]

Define athleticism as he appears to lack both pace and leap.

He has the Scharenbergs about him but less ability to find it or read the play.

I guess I was thinking of his evasiveness in traffic.

 

[Freddo]

This is why I was open to J Kelly from the crows as a F/A.

Madgen, Ruscoe, Murphy, W Kelly, Wilson, Keane...

I can see Madgen playing near 100 games by default. Ruscoe looks positive... but the rest really could all easily be failures and not on the list by the end of 2023

We could do with some proven mature body defenders or we fall into a hole once Roughead and Howe go

if a 29 year old madgen plays another 60 afl games then we really are in absolutely putrid state. Madgen should never play again. Awful

 

[Matt_352]

How much is Weid and Krueger going to cost.