Banter TRTT Part 12: Get Your Bowels Checked

[Contested Marx]

So the clique is rolling in and yet nobody except me actually has a position on whether or not the Carlton song is a) Racist, and or b) Needs to change, and or c) Old mate has jumped the shark with his movements.

Don't know about this clique you speak of but I reckon personally it's C)

Would be happy to educated otherwise

And regardless this won't stop me from telling all Carlton supporters that they are racists now

 

[edgie]

Carlton fans are too busy reeling from last nights game to worry about that. Had a couple mates already comment to me it was the worst game they've ever seen.

 

[Portology]

Spotted on Parramatta Rd yesterday: Bring Back The Bars supporter in Sydney?



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[Andre]

So the clique is rolling in and yet nobody except me actually has a position on whether or not the Carlton song is a) Racist, and or b) Needs to change, and or c) Old mate has jumped the shark with his movements.

No, no and yes. I doubt 1 in a 1000 people even knew the racist history of it. So now people will feel upset on hearing it. Bravo, bravo, he’s really helped people here

 

[Portology]

Were they?

Just ask Alexei Sayle and the Trotskyites.


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[chickentendies]

So the clique is rolling in and yet nobody except me actually has a position on whether or not the Carlton song is a) Racist, and or b) Needs to change, and or c) Old mate has jumped the shark with his movements.

Yeah sorry I actually didn't see this!
Looking at the argument he is presenting, that the song it is based on has racist roots is valid. I personally struggle to see how this makes the song racist.

A) Yankee Doodle (Hawks club song) was apparently written by the redcoats as an insult, strongly implying that American soldiers are gay. Instead, the Americans appropriated it and it became a song of pride and a **** you to the British. But there is a very easy argument to make that Hawthorn should change their song due to the homophobic history of the song.

B) Building on A), there could be an argument that Carlton have reappropriated the song.

C) Indigenous Carlton players have already come out and backed the club. If the black players, who would obviously be the ones directly affected by it because they sing it after every win say it is fine, it is fine. Although the argument could be made that since Carlton never win this is invalid.

D) Where is the line drawn when it comes to changing these things? I hate pulling that out, but I'm genuinely not sure. If Carlton are deemed a 'racist' club for refusing to change it, surely this makes every parent and kindergarten teacher racist the moment I make them aware that the song Ten Little Monkeys is based on a nursery rhyme called 'Ten little ******s' because they're still actively choosing to sing it despite its roots? Or Eeny Meeny Miny Mo?

However, I am not black, nor am I uncomfortable with telling a black person (or anyone) what they should or shouldn't be offended by but as part of this topic I think these issues need to be addressed. I also think disagreeing with him about his opinion here doesn't make a person racist.

Also I take everything back about manufacturing outrage this is a grouse topic.

 

[bomberclifford]

Or Eeny Meeny Miny Mo?

It still blows my mind that I’m old enough to have been taught the original lyrics to this with nary a raised brow by the adults passing on the song.

 

[NoddyHolder]

It still blows my mind that I’m old enough to have been taught the original lyrics to this with nary a raised brow by the adults passing on the song.

We used this throughout my primary school years and I honestly thought the word was knicker. I reckon we all said knicker. I had no idea why we said knicker but we did. I think I was an adult before the penny dropped.

 

[Papa G]

It still blows my mind that I’m old enough to have been taught the original lyrics to this with nary a raised brow by the adults passing on the song.

Not really. Racism, casual, real or percieved, hasn't been taken all that seriously in this country until the last decade or 2.

 

[Eddie Dingle]

I don't know, I wasn't there.

Has that ever stopped you having an opinion on something?

 

[edgie]

Has that ever stopped you having an opinion on something?

No way!

It also doesn't mean I don't ask questions to those with a more informed experience.

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[_VXV]

We used this throughout my primary school years and I honestly thought the word was knicker. I reckon we all said knicker. I had no idea why we said knicker but we did. I think I was an adult before the penny dropped.

We said n word at my primary school but we also had our yr 2 class blackface & pretend we were from Kenya for sports day one year so maybe not a thorough example…

 

[Power Girl]

We said n word at my primary school but we also had our yr 2 class blackface & pretend we were from Kenya for sports day one year so maybe not a thorough example…

Sweet Jesus who thought that was a good idea

 

[Doctor Feel]

 

[dirty2]

I used to sing the n word.... Pretty sure I knew it was bad.. but didn't understand..

 

[edgie]

Christ.

Whoever would have thought I went to the wokest school?

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[Eddie Dingle]

Christ.

Whoever would have thought I went to the wokest school?

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I think it’s more the point you are 13 and everyone else commenting is 85

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

 

[Power Girl]

I think it’s more the point you are 13 and everyone else commenting is 85

85 FFS. Steady on son. Some of us are still not getting grey hairs and remember it. But that could be due to outstanding genetics

 

[sobrave]

sound on

 

[Duck Farmer]

Here's a list of things that so-called American so-called patriots have defended in the Trump era because the left doesn't like them:

1. Nazis
2. The Confederacy
3. The British Royal Family

That's only two things.

 

[Duck Farmer]

That Cheer cheese guy should use his powers for good, not evil, and campaign to get the Weagles song banned.

 

[Pappagallo]

It still blows my mind that I’m old enough to have been taught the original lyrics to this with nary a raised brow by the adults passing on the song.

Primary school kids in the 90s were still being taught the original lyrics. I was saying it without ever knowing what it referred to and then one day it just changed to tiger without explanation.

 

[Sleezy]

Dylan8 just started twin peaks for the very first time. I bet you're jealous.

 

[_VXV]

Sweet Jesus who thought that was a good idea

Ahh…it was 1980 when hey hey it Saturday was funny