You won’t get silence because that implies we accept your Putin bot propoganda.
Would love to know more about the story that the head male propaganda guy on their state tv used to work for Rain tv at some point in the past.
Yeah those Vecher hosts really do raise the question of whether they are knowingly parrotting a theme, part of the disinformation service (or just for ratings and kickbacks) or if they are truly convinced of the crazy things they say.
I truly think they do not care....they want to make Russia Great again at any cost and for any narrative even if they know the narratives are just made up for audience to buy into any narrative that will have them back their regime.
Saying these places are a natural part of mother Russia, while at the same time, advocating that its essential for Russian security to have these countries act as a buffer zone between Russia and NATO seems contradictory.
The issue has nothing to do with NATO, the issue is Ukraine was moving towards a western style democracy where the people have power and independence. Russia couldn't cope that Ukraine were no longer their puppet. In the end it wasn't NATO who rolled their tanks into Ukraine, it was Russia ( I'm aware irony NATO tanks are going to in Ukraine anyway as Military aid).
Well said but wasted on the particular idiot. The idea that Ukranian people themselves decide what they want themselves is well beyond these simple types that fall down the rabbit hole of Russian propaganda that is probably their first introduction to the place called Ukraine itself.
Yeah you walked into a human environment speaking inhumanely, ignoring the slaughter of innocent people. I hope I could correctly predict indignation. If I someone killed an innocent person in front of you, and you were upset about it, do you think you are acting overly indignant? [Yes] [No]
What American propaganda? Is there any? Show us some. I mean, show us anything at all, that is a claim which came out of the USA re Ukraine conflict, but isn't matched by equal statements from basically everyone else outside of RF. Or are you just trying to be "anti-USA" (fine) using the blood of innocent Ukrainian civilians (not fine). Place example of specifically American propaganda, relevant to Ukraine conflict, here: ______________________
Why do you think an alternative view is acceptable? Truth is what the facts are. Alternative views are for religious nutcases, evolution deniers, flat earthers and anyone else who thinks data doesn't matter in epistemology. Data can change knowledge, surmisings can not.
Wording the discussion of genocide as a matter of debate is Irvingesque. You made claims and you got responses.
Yeah the old "it's more complex than that" trope. Everybody knows that there are complex elements related to this conflict, but tbh I don't think a kid in Vinnitsia watching her foot fall back to the ground in front her could give too much a of a rats about someone moving a piece on a strategy board on the other side of the world right now. We have three threads chockers with varying contributions here. But it still comes down to terrorism and genocide and empire building overall, and I don't give a * if I missed a tidbit, I just want innocent people to stop dying. Will you agree that this is the primary concern? [Yes] [No]
Not for you, I guess.
I have a Russian apologist friend who grew up in Luhansk and truly believes that Ukraine is full of Satanic Nazis among my friends. She has a scar from an explosion which demolished her house while she hid in a basement, that she believes came from the Ukrainian side, back in 2015ish - her uncle also died in this attack, iirc. If someone wants to tell me that I am not listening to both sides of the story sufficiently - it can be her, not some random who likes to turn the murder of children into their personal "arguing on the internet" plaything. I don't believe too much of what she claims, but I at least believe that she believes it.
You haven't stated you are pro putin but your actions and commentary have shown you are just a more eloquent version of green hammer.
The Russians had exactly that until recently with a neutral Ukraine, Finland and Sweden.
They all start the same. Good old conspiracy theories about the US leading the revolution in 2014 which forced Russias hand. Then when others respond listing the huge gaping holes in their BS, rather than responding to the topic, they get all defensive stating they aren’t pro Russian and throw their toys out with the cot. Every effing time like clockwork
The stupidity of it's opening post and total lack of awareness is no surprise after seen half a dozen of these johnny come lately brainwashed types and predictable path they go down.Watch this RT video. I am very smart and objective.
