Europe War in Ukraine - Thread 4 - thread rules updated

[Gethelred]

Hey all,

Seeing as multiple people seem to have forgotten, abuse is against the rules of BF. Continuous, page long attacks directed at a single poster in this thread will result in threadbans for a week from this point; doing so again once you have returned will make the bans permanent and will be escalated to infractions.

This thread still has misinformation rules, and occasionally you will be asked to demonstrate a claim you have made by moderation. If you cannot, you will be offered the opportunity to amend the post to reflect that it's opinion, to remove the post, or you will be threadbanned and infracted for sharing misinformation.

Addendum: from this point, use of any variant of the word 'orc' to describe combatants, politicians or russians in general will be deleted and the poster will receive a warning. If the behaviour continues, it will be escalated. Consider this fair warning.

Finally: If I see the word Nazi or Hitler being flung around, there had better have a good faith basis as to how it's applicable to the Russian invasion - as in, video/photographic evidence of POW camps designed to remove another ethnic group - or to the current Ukrainian army. If this does not occur, you will be threadbanned for posting off topic

This is a sensitive area, and I understand that this makes for fairly incensed conversation sometimes. This does not mean the rules do not apply, whether to a poster positing a Pro-Ukraine stance or a poster positing an alternative view.

Behave, people.

 

[wannabejack]

How 17-year-old Ukrainian Valeriia escaped a Russian re-education camp

17-year-old Ukrainian Valeriia was abducted to a Russian re-education camp in Crimea. She tells Euronews how she made it back to Ukraine on her own.

www.euronews.com

“...we’ve been documenting how Russians deliberately exterminate acting locals, such as mayors, journalists, civil society actors, priests and artists, for example.”

...the forceful deportation of Ukrainian children is part of a genocide policy, because some of them are put in re-education camps where they’re told they’re Russian and Russia is their motherland, she told me. “Later, some of them are subjected to forceful adoption into Russian families to be brought up as Russians”,

...if you want to partially or destroy a national group, you have several strategies, such as killing them or forcefully changing their identity,”

Very small children suffered greatly due to inadequate care and harsh conditions, remembered Valeriia. With their parents or guardians absent, they roamed unsupervised, enduring cold weather without proper clothing. Many fell ill with bronchitis. Outbreaks of diseases like chickenpox and lice were common.

In the temporary-occupied territories, possession of a Russian passport is essential for proving property ownership and retaining access to healthcare and retirement benefits. Failure to obtain the forced new passport by July 1, as mandated by a new Russian law in occupied territories, may lead to imprisonment as a ‘foreign citizen’, risking custody loss, imprisonment, or worse.

...the aftermath of such experiences often manifests in various symptoms across behavioural, emotional, and physical domains. These include emotional outbursts, sadness, self-harm, sleep disturbances, and digestive issues. Left untreated, these symptoms can evolve into more serious conditions like depression, anxiety disorders, and impaired social functioning. Therefore, a timely intervention by trained professionals is crucial to address and mitigate the long-term effects of occupation on children's mental health.

Out of nearly 20,000 abducted and displaced children, only 400 have been returned

 

[wannabejack]

Suspected Storm Shadows Blast Russian Targets in Occupied Luhansk

The Ukrainian Air Force said it hit an “enemy facility” in Russian-occupied Luhansk region with air-launched missiles. The General Staff said the target was a Russian command center.

www.kyivpost.com

 

[wannabejack]

Ukrainian Fighter Pilots Are Itching To Glide-Bomb Russian Troops. Ukraine’s New Ram II Drones Are Clearing The Way.

The Ram II drone waits for Russian air defenses to appear—and then strikes.

www.forbes.com

And if they [RAM II drones] can knock out enough Russian air defenses, they could do for the Ukrainian air force what Russia’s Lancets have done for the Russian air force: clear the way for fighter-bombers to streak toward the front line at high altitude and drop precision glide bombs from 25 miles away.

KAB glide bombs are the decisive weapon of the third year of Russia’s wider war on Ukraine. Each 1,100-, 2,200- or 3,300-pound KAB—the Russians drop as many as a hundred per day—can devastate a Ukrainian position and clear a path for Russian ground forces.
The KAB is a “miracle weapon” for the Russians, Ukrainian Deep State noted. And the Ukrainians have “practically no countermeasures.”

Ukrainian air force also gets 50 French-made Hammer glide bombs every month—and has modified its MiG and Sukhoi fighters to carry them.
Fifty French glide bombs a month isn’t a lot of glide bombs when the Russians are dropping thousands of KABs in the same span of time. But if and when Republicans relent and allow a vote on fresh U.S. aid, more JDAM-ERs [Extended Range precision-guided bombs] could arrive. Potentially a lot more.

And maybe, by then, Ukraine’s RAM IIs will have pushed back Russian air-defenses and made it safer for Ukrainian jets to glide-bomb the Russians nearly as relentlessly as Russian jets glide-bomb the Ukrainians.

 

[wannabejack]

 

[Visions]

How cute. These people affected by the floods think that by complaining about authorities something might actually get done.



Meanwhile another day, another inferior built dam due to the corruption of the state collapses.

 

[Aussie in exile]

How cute. These people affected by the floods think that by complaining about authorities something might actually get done.



Meanwhile another day, another inferior built dam due to the corruption of the state collapses.

There fools if they think Putin or the Russian state cares anything about them.

 

[wannabejack]

How cute. These people affected by the floods think that by complaining about authorities something might actually get done.



Meanwhile another day, another inferior built dam due to the corruption of the state collapses.

You would think that God wouldn't allow this flooding to happen seeing that russia is fighting a holy war.

 

[Mobbs]

In Tatarstan, 14-year-olds will be recruited to work at military factories [ASTRA]

The Parliament of Tatarstan has prepared a new regional program to promote youth employment, according to which teenagers 14-18 years old will be allowed to work in factories in their free time, Kommersant writes. Separate paragraphs in the document indicate “promotion of employment of youth under the age of 35 in agriculture” and “at enterprises of the military-industrial complex.”

Officials are worried that the number of working youth in Tatarstan is declining - due to “a decline in the birth rate in the country in the 90s of the twentieth century” and due to the fact that young people prefer to study rather than work.

Last year, the State Council of the Republic wanted to allow teenagers from 16 years of age to be employed in hazardous and hazardous industries.

Earlier it became known that in the Tatarstan SEZ "Alabuga" underage students of the "Alabuga Polytechnic" are forced to assemble Iranian kamikaze drones, which are used in the war against Ukraine.

Nested Links: [Kommersant] [Alabuga]

 

[wannabejack]

In Tatarstan, 14-year-olds will be recruited to work at military factories [ASTRA]



Nested Links: [Kommersant] [Alabuga]

Good to see kids earning a little pocket money.

 

[Andre]

In Tatarstan, 14-year-olds will be recruited to work at military factories [ASTRA]



Nested Links: [Kommersant] [Alabuga]

"and due to the fact that young people prefer to study rather than work."

Well I suppose we can take the positive long term view, that Russia is doing it's best to ensure they don't have enough people to put together any military equipment more complicated than a pitchfork.

 

[CD Xbow]

The Turtle is back! MkIII apparently. this time sporting EW gear. I can't imagine the enthusiasm the soldiers must have for being on board the battlefield highest value target. Go home boys, go home and watch reruns of Stalin's Trials, that ever popular soviet era rom-com.

New Russian 'Turtle Tank' Emerges On The Battlefield, Features Electronic Warfare System

Russia's monstrous turtle tank was not a one-off, with the third one now identified and it carries an electronic warfare system.

www.twz.com

 

[Visions]

An airfield in Crimea has been targeted and in the words of Rihanna “shines bright like a diamond.”

 

[Mobbs]

An airfield in Crimea has been targeted and in the words of Rihanna “shines bright like a diamond.”

Dzhankoy, not just an airfield, but a major rail junction in the centre of Crimea, and therefore i route for military resources coming over the Kerch Bridge to reach southern Zaporizhzhe oblast.

 

[Mobbs]

These events are a week old but the video was just presented now. Just insane.

 

[Thrawn]

These events are a week old but the video was just presented now. Just insane.

Those pesky Skaven and their damn-busting drills!

 

[Visions]

These events are a week old but the video was just presented now. Just insane.

Russians treating their common citizens like they do their soldiers.

And apparently mice caused the dams worth billions to collapse because they chewed through them.....those mutated rodents that Ukraine produced in their biolabs have a lot to answer for!

Man what a ****ed up backwards third world nation Russia is.

Meanwhile currently in Kurgan the scenes are like this. Somewhere in there is the Kurganmashzavod factory which produces Russias AFV's. Oh well, shame it will be offline for a while....

 

[Zidane98]

S400 in Crimea denazified:

 

[Baldur]

Those pesky Skaven and their damn-busting drills!

The rat people do not exist, this is a myth made by nazi's and other enemies of Russia in order to disrupt public order.

 

[jatz14]

They are accused of using nerve agents in weaponry which is an escalation past just phosphorous etc. If true, well ... campaigners ... yet I do remember one bloke saying here a year or two ago : its war, which should already be atrocious - what evil extravagance of war could possibly be condemned when war itself is already abominable. It takes me back to something I still believe since day one: Geneva Convention needs one rule only : don't have wars.

Reminds me about a quote about war, in reference to, it's seen as a game.

Quote was, War is a game, and this game only has 1 rule. You cannot refuse to play.

On SM-A346E using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[Zidane98]

Russians treating their common citizens like they do their soldiers.

And apparently mice caused the dams worth billions to collapse because they chewed through them.....those mutated rodents that Ukraine produced in their biolabs have a lot to answer for!

Man what a ****ed up backwards third world nation Russia is.

Meanwhile currently in Kurgan the scenes are like this. Somewhere in there is the Kurganmashzavod factory which produces Russias AFV's. Oh well, shame it will be offline for a while....

First a NATO bio lab bred shark eats a Russian tourist in Egypt, now NATO super bio lab rats are eating away Russia's dams. This is of course followed by those pesky NATO bio lab birds that somehow work against Russian speaking people only of the vatnik variety who support Putin but don't work against Ukranians and / or Russian speaking Ukranians who don't support Vlad and his gang of fascist thugs.


This NATO bio lab sounds impressive!

 

[Visions]

Georgians protesting against their pro-Russian government outside parliament. They don't seem happy with the current regime.

Spoiler: Swearing involved

 

[Visions]

So the speaker of the house has finally come up with his amazing plan to provide aid to all and sundry including Ukraine.

Its basically the same as the Senate bill that was approved, the only difference is that it is split into 4 bills and Ukraine has to pay back $10 billion of the 60 billion it is given (however this can and will most likely be waived).

Johnson has basically wasted 2 months to come up with this same plan, leading to the death of more people in Ukraine as a result that could have been prevented.

Will be voted on Saturday and then needs to go back to the Senate for approval. Biden has said he is happy with it and will sign it into law.



Meanwhile that dumbest of dumb people in MTG has come up with amendments for the Ukraine bill (the amendments wont go anywhere but it shows how she is a crackpot and the biggest Russian shill alongside Trump in the US government).

 

[Aussie in exile]

So the speaker of the house has finally come up with his amazing plan to provide aid to all and sundry including Ukraine.

Its basically the same as the Senate bill that was approved, the only difference is that it is split into 4 bills and Ukraine has to pay back $10 billion of the 60 billion it is given (however this can and will most likely be waived).

Johnson has basically wasted 2 months to come up with this same plan, leading to the death of more people in Ukraine as a result that could have been prevented.

Will be voted on Saturday and then needs to go back to the Senate for approval. Biden has said he is happy with it and will sign it into law.



Meanwhile that dumbest of dumb people in MTG has come up with amendments for the Ukraine bill (the amendments wont go anywhere but it shows how she is a crackpot and the biggest Russian shill alongside Trump in the US government).

MTG's mental health issues surface again

 

[Cap]

So the speaker of the house has finally come up with his amazing plan to provide aid to all and sundry including Ukraine.

Its basically the same as the Senate bill that was approved, the only difference is that it is split into 4 bills and Ukraine has to pay back $10 billion of the 60 billion it is given (however this can and will most likely be waived).

Johnson has basically wasted 2 months to come up with this same plan, leading to the death of more people in Ukraine as a result that could have been prevented.

Will be voted on Saturday and then needs to go back to the Senate for approval. Biden has said he is happy with it and will sign it into law.



Meanwhile that dumbest of dumb people in MTG has come up with amendments for the Ukraine bill (the amendments wont go anywhere but it shows how she is a crackpot and the biggest Russian shill alongside Trump in the US government).

He didnt waste it.

He did the bidding if Trump up until it might cost his job.


MTG reminds me of pir Adelaide Board MAGA posters. Absolutely devoid of a brain.

 

[Visions]

Probably taken out by friendly fire after a missile run on Ukraine. Shame that the pilots are reported to have survived.