Wells Vs Carey

[wellsythegr8]

At the time of the decision, do u think that the Adelaide Football Club made the right decision in giving up pick 4 (to become pick 2) and Kane Johnson for Wayne Carey and Jason Torney?

Obviously with the benefit of hindsight, u would most likely take Wells and keep Johnson, however keeping in mind that at the time, they thought they were only giving up pick 4 and that Wayne may have been the necessary ingredient for premierships success the decison is more plausible and acceptable.

Or do u think the club should have realised the need to begin re-building and as such kept the high draft pick?

 

[Portmanteau]

I think the AFC est. 1991 found out first hand what happens when you ******** a stranger in the ass...

 

[macca23]

I was all for getting Wayne Carey at the time, but not at the expense of giving up picks 2 and 18 (originally 4 and 20). My thoughts at the time,and nothing has changed that view, was that pick 18 was a fair trade for a 32 year old with crook shoulders that had been disowned by the club.

Hindsight says just how bad that deal actually was. Wells is going to be a top-liner, and could have been a Crow.

From Adelaide's point of view, a dumb, dumb trade.

 

[Snickers]

Hindsight is a beautiful thing!

 

[wellsythegr8]

I was all for getting Wayne Carey at the time, but not at the expense of giving up picks 2 and 18 (originally 4 and 20). My thoughts at the time,and nothing has changed that view, was that pick 18 was a fair trade for a 32 year old with crook shoulders that had been disowned by the club.

Hindsight says just how bad that deal actually was. Wells is going to be a top-liner, and could have been a Crow.

From Adelaide's point of view, a dumb, dumb trade.

So if u knew it was going to be picks 2 and 18 u wouldn't have done the deal?

 

[Crow-mosone]

we should have kept pick 2 and kane johnson? do tell?

geez, this annoys me. what does everyone want to do, sit on our hands when we appeared so close? then everyone would be complaining how you need to take a risk if you want to get anywhere.

join the real world, you take risks to get anywhere. If you don't think so, stay in school.

At the time I thought the price was a little high, but if that was the price of doing business so be it.

 

[Thewlis Dish]

So if u knew it was going to be picks 2 and 18 u wouldn't have done the deal?

I was all for getting Wayne Carey at the time, but not at the expense of giving up picks 2 and 18 (originally 4 and 20).

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[outback jack]

at the time i was happy to get carey, but i honestly thought he was on the way out (easy to say that in hindsight) but i remember he was getting alot of groin and leg injuries. He had a poor yr too before he had that affair. i though pick 4 would have been nice, esp considering we hadnt had many high picks, and in hindsight its pretty clear who won............

i was also ********ed with the richmond deal, my understanding is that we swapped our 1st, 2nd and 3rd rounders and swapped torney for johnson. not sure if this is 100% right. If it is, thats a shocking trade should have told richmond give us 4 or dont worry about it. Johnson was soooooo important to us.

If we had got pick 4 without trading away our first rounder, we could have got someone like schammer, he went at about that pick, not 100% sure though

looking at it whoever did these deals should be sacked. Set the club back 5 yrs easy. Trading has always been our weakness

 

[outback jack]

we should have kept pick 2 and kane johnson? do tell?

geez, this annoys me. what does everyone want to do, sit on our hands when we appeared so close? then everyone would be complaining how you need to take a risk if you want to get anywhere.

join the real world, you take risks to get anywhere. If you don't think so, stay in school.

At the time I thought the price was a little high, but if that was the price of doing business so be it.

yeah, but if this was the price, then we should have pushed harder on other deals where we had the power like johnson or stenglein. We could have made them pay, how come we always seem to break even or lose in trade deals, have we ever ripped anyone off??

 

[wellsythegr8]

yeah, but if this was the price, then we should have pushed harder on other deals where we had the power like johnson or stenglein. We could have made them pay, how come we always seem to break even or lose in trade deals, have we ever ripped anyone off??

You did well in the Darren Jarman trade!

 

[outback jack]

You did well in the Darren Jarman trade!

gave up a good player though

 

[Thewlis Dish]

gave up a good player though

A good player in Wellman for a star in Jarman.

What were you expecting to give up?

 

[wellsythegr8]

gave up a good player though

I'd take Jarman and the 2 premierships he was an integral part of for Wellman every day of the week!

 

[outback jack]

I'd take Jarman and the 2 premierships he was an integral part of for Wellman every day of the week!

yeah we did ok, but cant say we ripped them off completely. wasnt there some picks involved as well in the jarman deal i think there was?? wellman wasnt a bad player, although not in the class of jarman. Cant think of any other deals where we did well..........

 

[blue boy]

i would take kane jonson and pick 4 any day evryone knew that wayne carey was nealry at the end of his carrer

 

[DaveW]

Sigh.

a) At no point did we have pick 4(2) AND Kane Johnson. It's clear you don't understand the nature of this trade deal. If indeed you understand the nature of trading at all.

b) Kane Johnson was already lost to us. Keeping him simply wasn't an option. You'd know this if you'd been following football for more than two years.

 

[Crow-mosone]

You did well in the Darren Jarman trade!

how old are you?

 

[jmorg1]

Pick 4(2) was given to us as part of the trade for Johnson. So how exactly would we have BOTH pick 4 and Kane Johnson?

 

[Cap]

I am happy with what Torney has done and I think we should look beyond Wanyes on field performances - didnt anyone else notice the changes in players such as rutten, hentschel etc after a just one season learning from the Wayne ? I'm quiet sure he brought alot more to the crows than just 20 odd games

 

[noddy]

You did well in the Darren Jarman trade!

We did didn't we

In trades you win some, you lose some.

Move on people.

 

[noddy]

I am happy with what Torney has done and I think we should look beyond Wanyes on field performances - didnt anyone else notice the changes in players such as rutten, hentschel etc after a just one season learning from the Wayne ? I'm quiet sure he brought alot more to the crows than just 20 odd games

Correct!!

Am i right in that Wayne Carey has bought a pub somewhere in Adelaide ??

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Sigh.

a) At no point did we have pick 4(2) AND Kane Johnson. It's clear you don't understand the nature of this trade deal. If indeed you understand the nature of trading at all.

b) Kane Johnson was already lost to us. Keeping him simply wasn't an option. You'd know this if you'd been following football for more than two years.

Yep, been done to death & this time by a poll that doesn't even reflect our choices. ie. Sugar was returning home so keeping him was never an option, let alone with pick 4(2) thrown in as a bonus if he decided to stay.

We gave up too much for Carey, but we probably gained more than expected for Stenglein. ie. You win some, you lose some. The most important thing is not to dwell on it & move forward.

 

[Markthirtytwo]

I was all for getting Wayne Carey at the time, but not at the expense of giving up picks 2 and 18 (originally 4 and 20). My thoughts at the time,and nothing has changed that view, was that pick 18 was a fair trade for a 32 year old with crook shoulders that had been disowned by the club.

Hindsight says just how bad that deal actually was. Wells is going to be a top-liner, and could have been a Crow.

From Adelaide's point of view, a dumb, dumb trade.

Ah but who's to say if we would have picked Wells anyway the way we have picked up until this year.

 

[No 1 Draft Pick]

yeah we did ok, but cant say we ripped them off completely. wasnt there some picks involved as well in the jarman deal i think there was?? wellman wasnt a bad player, although not in the class of jarman. Cant think of any other deals where we did well..........

Jack Did It you loser. I am trying to restrain myself being the festive season and all......but......

The Crows have been the beneficiary of the biggest one-sided trade of all time.

Andrew Mc Leod for Chris Groom

Dual Norm Smiths in our great campaigns in 97 and 98. Jack - please tell me the emotions you felt when we won the flags in 97/98. How did you celebrate? Some of the best days of your life huh.

 

[BulldogMike]

No Adelaide fans, an injury plagued player on the verge of retirement was definately a rip-off as the exciting Wells will be carving it up making the club look like fools for years.