Society/Culture Woke. Can you tell real from parody?

[Chief]

Rolled over to Part 2:

Society/Culture - Woke. Can you tell real from parody? - Part 2 -

Potatoes have no gender. And soon, nearly 70 years (sic), the name of Hasbro’s popular spud-shaped toy will reflect that: No more Mr. Potato Head. It’s just Potato Head. On Thursday, the company announced it would be rebranding the iconic quick-change toy to break away from traditional ideas...

www.bigfooty.com

 

[Eagle Wrath]

It would be easier.

I think you meant it is easier. Is it now racist to call out racism? The woke would say it depends on who is doing it.
We dont hear the same mob crying racist when they deliberately exclude white people from movies and other groups.

 

[Carringbush2010]

Which article did you read?

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The one that SBD posted

 

[Frank Bunn]

Back on track...

The Entomological Society of America, an organization that oversees bug naming, has dropped the term “gypsy moth,” considered an ethnic slur to the Romani people.​

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This move is the first two for the organization’s Better Common Names Project, which seeks to replace names that contain derogative terms, inappropriate geographic references and for those that disregard what native communities called the species. The other insect it renamed was called the "gypsy ant," a lesser-known insect species that moves frequently.​

'Gypsy' moths are being renamed due to ethnic slur: What to know about the destructive bug

Amid a historic outbreak in several states, the 'gypsy' moth is being renamed over concerns about it being an ethnic slur. Here's what to know.

www.usatoday.com

I'm guessing the large ****** worm (rhymes with maggot), slave making ants and Hitler's beetle could all be in trouble.

 

[Chief]

Back on track...

The Entomological Society of America, an organization that oversees bug naming, has dropped the term “gypsy moth,” considered an ethnic slur to the Romani people.​

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This move is the first two for the organization’s Better Common Names Project, which seeks to replace names that contain derogative terms, inappropriate geographic references and for those that disregard what native communities called the species. The other insect it renamed was called the "gypsy ant," a lesser-known insect species that moves frequently.​

'Gypsy' moths are being renamed due to ethnic slur: What to know about the destructive bug

Amid a historic outbreak in several states, the 'gypsy' moth is being renamed over concerns about it being an ethnic slur. Here's what to know.

www.usatoday.com

I'm guessing the large ****** worm (rhymes with maggot), slave making ants and Hitler's beetle could all be in trouble.

The cracker bee should be safe, though.

 

[Frank Bunn]

The cracker bee should be safe, though.

Because they pollinate Kaffir limes?

 

[Frank Bunn]

Lessons on the periodic table and the chemical structure of food could be erased from VCE chemistry classes to make room for the teaching of “green chemistry principles” such as recycling metals and plastics.​

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VCE chemistry will be changed in 2023 as education authorities seek to strip back a subject they say has become cluttered with content but lacks emphasis on how chemistry can contribute to environmental sustainability.​

Goodbye periodic table?: VCE chemistry set for elemental change

Lessons on the periodic table and the chemical structure of food could be erased from VCE chemistry to make room for teaching “green chemistry principles”.

www.theage.com.au

 

[Chief]

Lessons on the periodic table and the chemical structure of food could be erased from VCE chemistry classes

They really could possibly but probably not but it makes for a good headline eh?

 

[ShanDog]

They really could possibly but probably not but it makes for a good headline eh?

It's literally in the draft curriculum.

Well, it's not in it, which is the point.

 

[Chief]

It's literally in the draft curriculum.

Well, it's not in it, which is the point.

Periodic table erased from chemistry class.

I’ll believe that when it happens.

 

[ShanDog]

Periodic table erased from chemistry class.

I’ll believe that when it happens.

I'm not sure what to say to you. That's what the draft new curriculum from the curriculum authority in Vic proposed. I haven't read the document (not my state, not my field of study), but have seen it reported in media and through education professionals/researcher discussion online.

Much like the national maths curriculum draft, that science one will hopefully be significantly changed with pushback from teachers and education specialists.

 

[Gough]

Some people call it CRT others would call it real history. I can see why some like the government and various enablers in the Senate would want it banned though.

 

[potsandpans]

It would be easier not to be a racist prat. But you take the hard road.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/07/13/redskins-change-name-announcement/

 

[Frank Bunn]

I'm not sure what to say to you. That's what the draft new curriculum from the curriculum authority in Vic proposed. I haven't read the document (not my state, not my field of study), but have seen it reported in media and through education professionals/researcher discussion online.

Much like the national maths curriculum draft, that science one will hopefully be significantly changed with pushback from teachers and education specialists.

One mention of the periodic table, as part of an 'Exploration Option'.

11 mentions of Aboriginal, including this.

Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples have diverse cultures, social structures and a history of unique and complex knowledge systems. In VCE Chemistry, students consider how scientific thinking can be informed and enhanced by considering how Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples have developed and refined their own knowledge about the world through: observation, using all the senses; prediction and hypothesis testing, including trial-and-error; and making generalisations within specific contexts including the use of plants as medicine and the use and modification of natural materials for useful purposes.​

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Teachers are encouraged to include Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander knowledge and perspectives in the design and delivery of teaching and learning programs related to VCE Chemistry.​

Pages - Chemistry

www.vcaa.vic.edu.au

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

‘Encouraged’.

Read.

 

[ShanDog]

One mention of the periodic table, as part of an 'Exploration Option'.

11 mentions of Aboriginal, including this.

Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples have diverse cultures, social structures and a history of unique and complex knowledge systems. In VCE Chemistry, students consider how scientific thinking can be informed and enhanced by considering how Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples have developed and refined their own knowledge about the world through: observation, using all the senses; prediction and hypothesis testing, including trial-and-error; and making generalisations within specific contexts including the use of plants as medicine and the use and modification of natural materials for useful purposes.​

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Teachers are encouraged to include Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander knowledge and perspectives in the design and delivery of teaching and learning programs related to VCE Chemistry.​

Pages - Chemistry

www.vcaa.vic.edu.au

These sections of curricula are common to most states and most levels of schooling (early years, middle years, senior). In this document, it reads much like the cross-curricular priorities (https://www.australiancurriculum.edu.au/f-10-curriculum/cross-curriculum-priorities/) for the national curriculum. These are not assessed items and aren't requirements - just guidelines on what the curriculum authority would like teachers to include in their study wherever possible. For example, this is from the page I linked:

'Cross-curriculum priorities are only addressed through learning areas and do not constitute curriculum on their own, as they do not exist outside of learning areas. Instead, the priorities are identified wherever they are developed or have been applied in content descriptions. They are also identified where they offer opportunities to add depth and richness to student learning in content elaborations. They will have a strong but varying presence depending on their relevance to the learning area.'​

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There's a far more interesting argument to be had about whether our 'scientific thinking can be informed and enhanced' by considering what ATSI people did pre-colonisation, as per the wording in the VCE chemistry draft curriculum. I would suggest not, and question why that's in there.

 

[Frank Bunn]

There's a far more interesting argument to be had about whether our 'scientific thinking can be informed and enhanced' by considering what ATSI people did pre-colonisation, as per the wording in the VCE chemistry draft curriculum. I would suggest not, and question why that's in there.

Consideration of how cultures have influenced science is a valid topic. For example, Isaac Newton was trying to discover God's laws. But I don't think that discussion belongs in the curriculum of hard sciences like Physics and Chemistry.

The Chemistry curriculum it is steering towards achieving certain subjective ends - such as 'sustainability', or 'clean energy' the 'relevant environmental, economic and social factors'.

identify the sociocultural, economic, political, legal and/or ethical implications of the production of the selected material; and suggest how the production process could be improved in terms of selected green chemistry principles leading to sustainable production and the minimisation of wastes.​

All indigenous people had knowledge of their environment but it can't be classed as science.

 

[Suspense]

I can't talk about F to 6, but the 7 to 10 curriculum is mostly a load of wank. Teachers teach what they want to teach (usually what will engage students & prepare them with the pre-requisite skills and knowledge for VCE in their subject area) and then later tie it back to one or two of the very generically defined curriculum descriptors.

The VCE Study designs actually do matter - because that determines what students will actually be assessed upon. The subjects I teach don't have any 'aboriginal perspectives' yet - but I don't doubt that there is working group down a VCAA trying to nut out how they weave it into Software Development.
That said, there has been an increased focus upon ethical considerations and sustainability, which I don't have an issue with because they can often be taught in the context of an existing topic - rather than taking away from the core skills/knowledge of the subject.

I would suggest that you could teach 'how Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples have developed and refined their own knowledge about the world' in about 20 minutes of class time.

 

[Chief]

There's a far more interesting argument to be had about whether our 'scientific thinking can be informed and enhanced' by considering what ATSI people did pre-colonisation, as per the wording in the VCE chemistry draft curriculum. I would suggest not, and question why that's in there.

It would be the same as “pre-scientific method” type info? Dunno.

 

[ShanDog]

It would be the same as “pre-scientific method” type info? Dunno.

I'm sceptical and assume the purpose is not to highlight the strengths of the post-enlightenment scientific method, but is rather a byproduct of the 'other ways of knowing' postmodern academic studies that I don't put much stock into. It really strikes me as the secular equivalent of Christian apologetics.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Consideration of how cultures have influenced science is a valid topic. For example, Isaac Newton was trying to discover God's laws. But I don't think that discussion belongs in the curriculum of hard sciences like Physics and Chemistry.

The Chemistry curriculum it is steering towards achieving certain subjective ends - such as 'sustainability', or 'clean energy' the 'relevant environmental, economic and social factors'.

identify the sociocultural, economic, political, legal and/or ethical implications of the production of the selected material; and suggest how the production process could be improved in terms of selected green chemistry principles leading to sustainable production and the minimisation of wastes.​

All indigenous people had knowledge of their environment but it can't be classed as science.

What part of teachers are encouraged do you not understand?

 

[Crankyhawk]

Back on track...

The Entomological Society of America, an organization that oversees bug naming, has dropped the term “gypsy moth,” considered an ethnic slur to the Romani people.​

​

This move is the first two for the organization’s Better Common Names Project, which seeks to replace names that contain derogative terms, inappropriate geographic references and for those that disregard what native communities called the species. The other insect it renamed was called the "gypsy ant," a lesser-known insect species that moves frequently.​

'Gypsy' moths are being renamed due to ethnic slur: What to know about the destructive bug

Amid a historic outbreak in several states, the 'gypsy' moth is being renamed over concerns about it being an ethnic slur. Here's what to know.

www.usatoday.com

I'm guessing the large ****** worm (rhymes with maggot), slave making ants and Hitler's beetle could all be in trouble.

Parody

 

[ShanDog]

What part of teachers are encouraged do you not understand?

To be fair, I couldn't get my students to read a rubric at gunpoint.

 

[Sweet Jesus]

How many of you folks are teachers?

 

[Evolved1]

I don't recall the periodic table getting much usage in VCE chemistry when I graduated in the 20th century. It's probably a non-issue.

 

[Lethality]

Isn't gynaecological health also a gendered term though? It contains the root Greek word for woman.

Also, a LOT of women (or people who menstruate) don't actually menstruate. Maybe they need to change this to something more inextricably female, like, well, biological female? Trans people feel they were born in the wrong body, so that would include acknowledging their biology, and therefore perhaps we don't need to dance around it.