****in' ay! Somalia is another example of "libertarianism" in action
Do I hear a dexter fan or is this just one of your sayings?
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****in' ay! Somalia is another example of "libertarianism" in action
Do I hear a dexter fan or is this just one of your sayings?
Hopefully we'll get the local State based ABC news from around the country. Sky now have a menu where you can tune to your local state based news but it's pretty ordinary.
Having lived and worked in most states/territories I love seeing what's going on. I wonder if they'll do those half hour weather forecasts for W.A. lol
****in' ay! Somalia is another example of "libertarianism" in action
Free marketeers like Placebo, and Meds when he's at his most bombastic, seem to live in some theoretical fantasy world as far removed from reality as any Marxist dialectic.
So taxes for things that you like and what protect you, but nothing for anything you don't like and which protect others? I wish I lived in the minarchist fantasy world!
But, no, I was more commenting on the idological thrust of the debate that you two have taken the thread on.
His view of the ABC is quite far removed from the reality of the ABC.
Clearly someone doesn't understand the libertarian position of not being allowed to infringe on any others rights or initiate force against another, something that isn't respected in Somalia.
What rights? You don't have any other than those granted to you by the state.
I'm not gonna touch this one.
Come on, placebo. Touch it.
Let's imagine a state whose only power is that of protecting rights, rather than enacting what some might call social responsibilities. Effectively, all such a state could do is have an executive police function.
I hardly think a government that is tasked solely with policing, that can only exercise its monopoly on violence, is the best form of government.
I hardly think a government that is tasked solely with policing, that can only exercise its monopoly on violence, is the best form of government.
Police, courts and army yes and also a clear constitution limiting the governments powers.
Again, that is an ideal, not what I'm asking to be implemented at the drop of a hat nor what I'm even arguing for at all in this country at the moment as it's not practical at this moment in history.
And I tend not to care what you think is the best form of government.
Why would it solely be policing?
Protecting property rights entails far more than that. Anti fraud measures for example, anti monopoly powers, copyright laws etc.
A very successful form of government
See Hong Kong. Rose from a fishing village to one of the richest cities in Asia on that model.
The government owns all the land, does it not? You can own your land here.
Gravy, what is it you think a country limited to police, courts and national defense will actually lead to (in reference to saying it wouldn't stay a very liberal government for very long)? It's as if you are implying I want a police state or something.
Why do we need the ABC and SBS?
No, I'm not implying you want a police state. I'm saying that this ideal of a state that is limited to protecting rights (which means its only function is upholding the law) will inevitably lead to a police state.
I believe so. You can purchase on leasehold basis. A property lawyer told me recently that freehold was a misnomer as it merely denoted a 999 year lease from the Crown. No idea if this applies in Australia as well.
Why do we need the ABC and SBS?
I really don't see how a government based on the very principles of non-aggression and negative liberty would lead to a police state.