Recruiting EFC Trade/Draft Talk II with F/A rules in OP - Billings for a fourth rounder the latest rumour

[eth-dog]

Prestia and 7 for pick 1 is good for both clubs

It is, but haven't you guys ruled out trading up for pick 1?

 

[westking]

I thought Gold Coast have ruled out trading with Essendon forever. Lets stop wasting our time contemplating such scenarios.

But if they did.....

I reckon Hurley and Hibbered are gone. What will GC give for Pick 1, Hurley and Hibbered?
That would be a 'super trade' if Ive ever seen one.

 

[Runk]

I was thinking IF Hurley AND Hibberd both go how do we get in the best position to re-invigorate our list?

A possible and semi-realistic way I see it is:
Hurley to the dogs for their R1 + R2 (say pick 13+31) and swap 2017 ESS R3 for WB R2 (WB get Hurley for a R1 pick + R2 pick and a pick downgrade)
Hibberd to Melbourne for R2 pick (say pick 25) and possibly a 2017 R4 pick.

Then we trade:
Picks 19,25,31,37 (2822 points) to GWS for picks 8 & 16 (2618 points) (GWS do this because basically they are just targetting academy picks and 204 free points is a good get)
Picks 1, 55 and WB 2017 R2 pick(approx 3770 points) to GC for picks 4 & 7 (3678 points). GC get pick 1 to use on player before Brodie pick plus extra points in 55 plus start stockpiling picks in case of next year academy picks.

This gives us picks:
4, 7, 8, 13, 16, 73

Assuming Prestia goes to either Carlton or Richmond for their first round pick, I see the draft order at the end of the year therefore being something like (not including bids for GWS players):

1) Gold Coast: Brodie
2) Gold Coast: Bowes (Matching Brisbane's bid and using pick gained from Richmond/Carlton (5th/6th pick) + one of their 2nd rounders)
3) Brisbane: SPS
4) Fremantle: Marshall
5) Essendon: McCluggage
6) Richmond/Carlton: Ainsworth
7) Essendon: McGrath
8) Essendon: Venables
9) Port Adelaide: Gallucci
10) St Kilda: Simpkin
11) North Melbourne: English
12) West Coast: Rotham
13) Essendon: Toranto
14) Adelaide: Scharenberg
15) Sydney: Scrimshaw
16) Essendon: Battle
...
73) Essendon: Walla upgrade.

Giving us something along the lines of McCluggage/Marshall, McGrath, Venables, Toranto, Battle.
While also maintaining our 1st and 2nd rounders next year.

Don't get me wrong, I'd prefer Hurley and Hibberd to stay but I think this would really help re-invigorate our list if they were to go.

Dodo?

 

[Iva Bigun]

It is, but haven't you guys ruled out trading up for pick 1?

That was reported from a "source" at the club. I think Prestia and 7 works for both clubs however some have suggested here 4 and 7 which is too much.

Personally with Bowes slipping I think we would only trade if Prestia nominated Essendon

 

[eth-dog]

That was reported from a "source" at the club. I think Prestia and 7 works for both clubs however some have suggested here 4 and 7 which is too much.

Personally with Bowes slipping I think we would only trade if Prestia nominated Essendon

I think Bowes will still be bid on in the first 3.

 

[PhoenixBonez]

Dodo?

Shh don't blow my cover

 

[MarkG]

Is there consensus on who those three are?

Brodie, McLuggage and Petrevski-Seton

 

[yodellinhank]

I thought Gold Coast have ruled out trading with Essendon forever. Lets stop wasting our time contemplating such scenarios.

But if they did.....

I reckon Hurley and Hibbered are gone. What will GC give for Pick 1, Hurley and Hibbered?
That would be a 'super trade' if Ive ever seen one.

Josh Caddy. Dodo finally stumps it up years too late.

 

[WEEVZ]

Why would we do that deal? I don't understand why would we give up pick 4 for nothing

It was just a hypothetical way for us to improve our draft position, and for you to gain a few points.

 

[VelvetSledge]

Some reporter saying that Pig to Melbourne is a done deal

Not sure who, just heard it on the radio

 

[DapperJong]

Interesting.

 

[Rack Watts]

So, do we get anything for him?
Or just mid season player theft?

 

[Runk]

Some reporter saying that Pig to Melbourne is a done deal

Not sure who, just heard it on the radio

Seems to be the flow. Sam 'Poo Face' McLure called it last night. Whatevs. 2nd rnd please Roosy.

 

[WEEVZ]

Some reporter saying that Pig to Melbourne is a done deal

Not sure who, just heard it on the radio

It was Sam McClure.

So, do we get anything for him?
Or just mid season player theft?

A trade still has to happen, but if I were the club I'd be approaching the AFL and questioning the legality of what the Dees have done. I thought it was against AFL rules & regs for opposition clubs to make formal contract offers to contracted players mid-season (regardless of whether the offer is/was only made and agreed to verbally).

 

[Andronicus]

Just looking at old drafts.

First 9 picks in 1991 were from WA.

 

[yodellinhank]

It was Sam McClure.


A trade still has to happen, but if I were the club I'd be approaching the AFL and questioning the legality of what the Dees have done. I thought it was against AFL rules & regs for opposition clubs to make formal contract offers to contracted players mid-season (regardless of whether the offer is/was only made and agreed to verbally).

I think they are allowed to talk to agents just not the player. Yeah, I know.

 

[ant555]

Some reporter saying that Pig to Melbourne is a done deal

Not sure who, just heard it on the radio

Not sure anyone can say done deal even if he wants to accept a deal. Bit of dealing to be done yet.

 

[efcboy]

It was Sam McClure.


A trade still has to happen, but if I were the club I'd be approaching the AFL and questioning the legality of what the Dees have done. I thought it was against AFL rules & regs for opposition clubs to make formal contract offers to contracted players mid-season (regardless of whether the offer is/was only made and agreed to verbally).

Can probably have a heads of agreement signed which is a non-binding agreement used as a pre cursor to formal contract.

 

[gillon]

Every club does this. It's a non-factor.

 

[WEEVZ]

Can probably have a heads of agreement signed which is a non-binding agreement used as a pre cursor to formal contract.

Hmm I still don't think it's right but ok. I still think if opposition clubs want to approach a contracted player with an offer, they should ask that players incumbent club's permission first. Bit of honesty, etc. goes a long way rather than underhanded dealings.

 

[JayDon]

Hmm I still don't think it's right but ok. I still think if opposition clubs want to approach a contracted player with an offer, they should ask that players incumbent club's permission first. Bit of honesty, etc. goes a long way rather than underhanded dealings.

He stays???

 

[efcboy]

Hmm I still don't think it's right but ok. I still think if opposition clubs want to approach a contracted player with an offer, they should ask that players incumbent club's permission first. Bit of honesty, etc. goes a long way rather than underhanded dealings.

Don't think that's practical. An employee (player) generally doesn't want their employer (club) to know they are considering taking up a job elsewhere until they accept that position. Likewise an employer generally doesn't tell another employer (company/club) they are interested in securing their staff.

 

[TheFrenchCut]

If Hibberd leaves and we end up with pick 27 or whatever, I'd be hopeful for something like:
1 - McCluggage
19 - Simpkin
27 - Drew

Obviously there are a lot of others i'd like to take too, but i'd be pretty excited with this batch if it happened.

 

[Andronicus]

Don't think that's practical. An employee (player) generally doesn't want their employer (club) to know they are considering taking up a job elsewhere until they accept that position. Likewise an employer generally doesn't tell another employer (company/club) they are interested in securing their staff.

How many employers organise trades with other companies in the real world?

Not sure it is the best comparison.

 

[WEEVZ]

If Hibberd leaves and we end up with pick 27 or whatever, I'd be hopeful for something like:
1 - McCluggage
19 - Simpkin
27 - Drew

Obviously there are a lot of others i'd like to take too, but i'd be pretty excited with this batch if it happened.

It'd be the following for mine:
#1 - McLuggage
#19 - Battle
#26 - Whoever is best available (Kerr?)

I think though having #1, #19, #26 (via MEL for Hibberd), #37, #48 (via WCE for Howlett), #55, #73, #91, #109 is probably a few too many picks. I'd be more in favour of getting as many picks inside the top 10 (and 20) as possible. IF (and I don't think it'll happen) Hurley does decide he wants to leave, we'd have to go after Marchbank wouldn't we? Or do we press hard for a Patton/Lobb and play Hooker in defense again with Francis as the 3rd tall down there?