Gibbs requests trade to Adelaide

[The Sloane Ranger]

Fair enough. I'll back us in either way, we just need to be aware how quickly ladder positions can change. 2016 Bulldogs and Freo for example. Trading out our first in two consecutive years also affects our ability to trade picks in the following two years so that needs to be taken into account. I'm sure the club has certain targets in the 2017 draft which will also impact the decision too.

I'm still holding out hope that neither scenario comes into play and we land him for 13 plus later pick swaps in 3rd or 4th round.

Carlton are not going to do a WB next year and I'm confident that we won't do a Fremantle

 

[relapse]

if we give 13 and 2017 1st, Id want 24 and a 2017 2nd + Gibbs

Unfortunately the chances of that happening are .....

 

[Bicks]

 

[Sanguinarius]

Roll the dice and do the trade.

If we crash and burn, then at least we actually gave ourselves a shot at it.

 

[GordonBlue]

Carlton gave up pick 3, Kennedy (worth a first rounder) and 30 for for Chris Judd in his prime.

We are giving up 2 first rounders (admittedly lower first rounders) for an older Gibbs.

If the rumour is true

Carlton gave away:
Pick 3, 20 and Kennedy (pick 4, 2 years earlier) for Judd who was suffering OP (we got 46 back)

This time it will most likely be:
Pick 13 and Pick 15 at best and you get Pick 20 back for a player who you will get as many years from as we did Judd

Not comparing the quality between the two, but the difference in picks totals to:
10 picks ealier with first pick
9 picks ealier with second (plus development who turned into a superstar)
They received pick 20, we're giving you pick 20

The value of the two trade are not in the same ball park

 

[Big Gazoongas]

You fellas crack me up.

The bottom line is he is 27 right now. It really is black and white.

People keep referring him to being 28...if he was really 28 right now he would be 29 in his first season with Adelaide...it all counts and misleads others too who actually think he is 28 RIGHT NOW.

People refer to him being 28 when he starts playing for us. What part of that aren't you able to comprehend. You're starting to make Port flogs look inteligent.

 

[baldandbroke]

Yes. I'd do our two firsts for your second next year and that is probably where this will end up. The only other way it gets done is giving up one our young guns which would be very stupid on our part. Sell the picks, keep the youth.

I'm still in this ballpark. It's like an 8 place downgrade next year - which we will use for Edwards anyway.

This is my ceiling, and I wouldn't think we would put out any more than that. If we are still in the market for Rocky, then his spiralling price might help us out with a second rounder from Lyons + CEY doing the job.

If we get out of this trade period and draft with 2 out of 3 - Gibbs, Rockliff, Jarman - I'll be happy. 3 out of 3 I'd be shocked and ecstatic.

 

[Carmo]

Props to the people on here, that have been on here a long time, and still have the energy to engage with the dumb shits, negative nellies and sky is falling-ers.

Dunno how you do it.

Anyway, just wanted to say I'm grateful.

 

[Weiterbot23]

Roll the dice and do the trade.

If we crash and burn, then at least we actually gave ourselves a shot at it.

You could never be blamed for it being a bad deal unless your 5 best players did ACLs and you missed the 8.

Freo, Essendon and GC will likely leap frog us next year (especially if we lose Gibbs) our 2017 second would still nab you pick 19-23

 

[arsene wenger1]

Guys lets get a grip here....POTENTIALLY our first this year and a slight downgrade of 1-6 spots for next year. The positives is nothing crazy happened with McGovern, Atkins or any of the crouch bros. who knows what will happen next trade period, we maybe upgrade that pick somehow in a trade. Next years draft is not final until next years trade period is done. We're actually making SOS look like genius the way we're carrying on here

 

[Carmo]

I'm still in this ballpark. It's like an 8 place downgrade next year - which we will use for Edwards anyway.

This is my ceiling, and I wouldn't think we would put out any more than that. If we are still in the market for Rocky, then his spiralling price might help us out with a second rounder from Lyons + CEY doing the job.

If we get out of this trade period and draft with 2 out of 3 - Gibbs, Rockliff, Jarman - I'll be happy. 3 out of 3 I'd be shocked and ecstatic.

I'd be happy with 2 out of 3.

Would love one pick in between 20 and 40 though. Lots of good SA talent will be there, currently underrated, most people tipping them for 30-60.

Also happy if we only end up losing 1 / 2 players for this to happen. Hendo or Lyons. Will be a bit sad if either of those go, but still ok with it. Will be more sad about Lyons, I reckon Hendo's pretty much at his ceiling, I think Lyons will climb a bit further. Happy for them to stay as well. Glad we'll likely keep Curly as well.

EDIT oops, just realised Hendo didn't trigger recontract so he's gone. O well, the rest stands.

 

[D Webb]

Isn't it supposed to be easier to recruit mids than it is for key position players?

 

[Golumless]

I agree. Time to walk away before we completely sell the farm. He had a chance to come home a few years ago. We owe this kid nothing especially not a badly lop sided deal.

And yet you'll be the first to sink their teeth into the club for not winning a premiership.

 

[Sanders]

Could be as little as a 1 pick downgrade

Based on this year it's at least a 12 pick downgrade. Add in a couple of academy/FS picks and it's close to a whole round

 

[The Flying Doormat]

What has he actually done?

His job.

 

[Samcro24]

We need ready made quality. Weve struggled to get players. We need mids. We've gone ballsy and poached a contracted one.

He will be the best user of all our mids & complement them beautifully. The first mid with polish that can actually hit targets since the Goodwin macca days. A nice change from all out grunt.

We will give up a first and likely pick downgrade on another, and apparently that's insanity. Bullshit. It's like buying 32 bucks worth of fuel and going nah **** that, it's not worth two 20 dollar notes.

It will be a good trade. Or we can keep going round in circles drafting like we have for 10 years. Go all in, this year and next, have a tilt at the flag. Win it, or crash and burn- it's better than mid table.

Then we can talk about who we will get with our top 5 pick and rebuild properly.

 

[mattymac]

We finish top 4 blues bottom 2 the difference is like 6 picks max. This is a good trade.

Blues midfield will get slaughtered once we take Gibbs out of it. Absolutely put to the sword.

They should've taken Lyons while they had the chance haha

 

[arsene wenger1]

Sydney and hawthorn would both do this deal.....sh* t teams rebuild. Let's not be sh*t

 

[Golumless]

Guys lets get a grip here....POTENTIALLY our first this year and a slight downgrade of 1-6 spots for next year. The positives is nothing crazy happened with McGovern, Atkins or any of the crouch bros. who knows what will happen next trade period, we maybe upgrade that pick somehow in a trade. Next years draft is not final until next years trade period is done. We're actually making SOS look like genius the way we're carrying on here

The thing to factor here is Edwards. If he is as good as it sounds like he is, we have our first sorted regardless.

Lets hope that he is.

 

[Weiterbot23]

Based on this year it's at least a 12 pick downgrade. Add in a couple of academy/FS picks and it's close to a whole round

Yes but a Gibbs trade makes you better and us worse

 

[NCHammertime]

Sydney and hawthorn would both do this deal.....sh* t teams rebuild. Let's not be sh*t

Except for when Hawthorn didn't make the finals for 5 years in a row in the mid 2000's and rebuilt.

 

[Elite Crow]

His job.

Look, it's a bit rich showing your face around here given what you've been saying on your board.

 

[arsene wenger1]

The thing to factor here is Edwards. If he is as good as it sounds like he is, we have our first sorted regardless.

Lets hope that he is.

Exactly.....they probably already rate him as a first rounder so they figure they can probably afford to downgrade a little. If they need to bring in a later pick next year to get the points required then so be it.

 

[arsene wenger1]

Except for when Hawthorn didn't make the finals for 5 years in a row in the mid 2000's and rebuilt.

Ok forget hawthorn then.....lets go with sydney only

 

[Messiah]

I'll get it right this time.
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