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All fair enough but the MCG has produced dull wickets for quite some time now. This was just exceptionally dull.
Get rid of drop in wickets
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Dull yes but not this bad. This was just absolutely disgusting for everyone involved. Nothing for batsman or bowlers. Awful. Glad both Smith and Root blasted it.
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When even the winning captain (who tonned up alongside a half ton himself) gives a wicket
then you know it's a poor pitch.
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CA apparently investigating the pitch but nothing will be done about it because it went for 5 days and will be swept under the carpet. Let’s face it, had it not been Boxing Day and a public holiday, the ground would have been half full the whole 5 days as soon as the paying public looked at the disgrace of a pitch that killed the contest between bat and ball. Only reason why wickets fell was from players having to force the pace onto the ball.
I love the irony of all the precious Vics defending the pitch and ground when just about everyone is slamming the heck out of it and is now being investigated
‘Premier’ test maybe should be moved elsewhere...
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I love the irony of all the precious Vics defending the pitch and ground when just about everyone is slamming the heck out of it and is now being investigated
‘Premier’ test maybe should be moved elsewhere...
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CA apparently investigating the pitch but nothing will be done about it because it went for 5 days and will be swept under the carpet. Let’s face it, had it not been Boxing Day and a public holiday, the ground would have been half full the whole 5 days as soon as the paying public looked at the disgrace of a pitch that killed the contest between bat and ball. Only reason why wickets fell was from players having to force the pace onto the ball.
I love the irony of all the precious Vics defending the pitch and ground when just about everyone is slamming the **** out of it and is now being investigated
‘Premier’ test maybe should be moved elsewhere...
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What does the pitch have to do with the ground?
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Ignore Lynnsanity. A Victorian ran over his cat when he was a kid and has since never forgiven any of them.
Apparently they've used the same block of pitches for 15 years, ie the original drop-ins!
After that debacle, now is the time to start fresh with some new ones. If you're going to get it a bit wrong first up and 'accidentally' produce a green top, then having it against India is probably the best scenario.
Kohli could bat for a week on what they just played on.
After that debacle, now is the time to start fresh with some new ones. If you're going to get it a bit wrong first up and 'accidentally' produce a green top, then having it against India is probably the best scenario.
Kohli could bat for a week on what they just played on.
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If the adelaide wicket is so good why do test matches there need to be played under lights with a different coloured ball?
Adelaide curator is allowed to make competitive wickets.
I am not sure about that, because of the pink ball he is allowed to keep some love grass on it but outside of the night sessions it is still a road as it’s always been.
Before day/night tests almost all Adelaide results needed declarations in the first innings. Adelaide is well known as probably the best batting pitch in the world, never heard a fast bowler yet who says I am looking forward to bowling on the Adelaide pitch.
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I was at the Adelaide test again for all 5 days & it offers more to the players during the day sessions too - easier to score & also something in it for the bowlers.
Adelaide has produced quality wickets before the day night tests too.
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The day night tests are to be more spectator time friendly.
The wicket was good before day night tests too, usually getting a result day 5
Conspiracy theory - CA likes this as it will set up the public nicely to accepting six day/night tests a summer.
Assuming Melbourne and Sydney tests stay when they are they’ll never be D/N tests as CA pushes BBL heavily in that period. They’ll never want BBL clashing with tests or they’ll lose big telecast money.
Perth test is D/N for viewers in every other state and would finish way too late for other state’s viewers to be a D/N test particularly the kids and people working early the next morning.
Brisbane is really the only other option and monsoonal weather conditions at times mean that play is lost. Is still the only option bar Adelaide.
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If it means better wickets I approve of it.
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They actually do.
Damian Hough is the Adelaide guy and he said preparing the drop ins was like having to learn how to make a cricket pitch all over again.
The 100+ years of knowledge handed down from generations of curators has been rendered obsolete.
They played around with different lengths of grass, amount of watering in the lead up (adjusting for weather), how early and often it gets cut and rolled. Prepared plenty of stinkers initially that did nothing and the Redbacks bowlers found it impossible to get 20 wickets.
Erred the other way and all of a sudden Sayers, Mennie, Worrall were the best Shield pace attack in the comp, 2.5 day Shield games and the perennial wooden spooners were starting to win games.
Have now found a nice middle ground where there's a balance between bat and ball but it took years to get to this stage.
It’s a fast bowlers graveyard mate, it always has been. There wouldn’t be a quick anywhere who would say he wants to bowl at Adelaide.
1st innings declarations give the spinners a chance on day 5. No declarations then no result.
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Plenty of fast bowlers have had success, including a frightening spell by Mitch Johnston.
Sayers doesn't have problems taking plenty of wickets.
Adelaide usually provides assistance to all players & most tests are decided on day 5.
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When the time comes for all Tests to be day-night matches (and that time definitely will come) they'll just start the BBL a week earlier and finish it a week later.
Not on the first day it isn't. Adelaide has always been good for fast bowling on day one, great for batting on days 2-4 and takes spin and variable bounce on day 5. Has been that way years before drop-in pitches and the ground staff have now been mostly successful in replicating it.
Melbourne's pitch was a shocker, you could play a timeless test on that and it would not take spin by day 10.
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That would be a valid criticism from 5+ years ago but it's changed quite a bit
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"Get rid of drop-in pitches."
Says the AFL fan.
AFL ruined cricket in this country.
Says the AFL fan.
AFL ruined cricket in this country.
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The Adelaide wicket has improved immensely in providing a fair contest but hard to know how much to do with D/N cricket and how much the pitch.
As I mentioned earlier the most overrated test of all time IMO is the 06/07 Ashes test at Adelaide. Amazing finish but for four days was an absolute snooze fest as bowlers were sent to an early death.
For the 15 seasons prior to the D/N test Adelaide was reasonably comfortably the highest scoring ground in Australia of the regular test grounds. And that was tending upwards for the 5 seasons prior to the D/N test. An average of 40+ per wicket over a 5-year period is far too high to be considered a genuine contest between bat and ball.
It's all well and good to say most games at Adelaide had a result on day 5 but you can't ignore that 13 teams declared in Adelaide over those 15 years which is the equal most (shared with Brisbane) of any Australian ground.
The D/N tests have been brilliant to watch and have really bought the bowlers back into matches at Adelaide. Combined with the renovation of the ground and it look spectacular. Not just a highlight on the Australian cricketing calendar but the world cricketing calendar.
As I mentioned earlier the most overrated test of all time IMO is the 06/07 Ashes test at Adelaide. Amazing finish but for four days was an absolute snooze fest as bowlers were sent to an early death.
For the 15 seasons prior to the D/N test Adelaide was reasonably comfortably the highest scoring ground in Australia of the regular test grounds. And that was tending upwards for the 5 seasons prior to the D/N test. An average of 40+ per wicket over a 5-year period is far too high to be considered a genuine contest between bat and ball.
It's all well and good to say most games at Adelaide had a result on day 5 but you can't ignore that 13 teams declared in Adelaide over those 15 years which is the equal most (shared with Brisbane) of any Australian ground.
The D/N tests have been brilliant to watch and have really bought the bowlers back into matches at Adelaide. Combined with the renovation of the ground and it look spectacular. Not just a highlight on the Australian cricketing calendar but the world cricketing calendar.
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