You do realize every single match in the finals last year was won by 6+ goals?? Everyone got smashed. It was just a reflection of the way the game was being played rather than anyone being poor.
Coach Chris Scott re-signs to 2022 (aka the Chris Scott discussion Part IV)
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You do realize every single match in the finals last year was won by 6+ goals?? Everyone got smashed. It was just a reflection of the way the game was being played rather than anyone being poor.
Or it could be that Essendon weren't anywhere near as good.
Repeat - Sydney were not that good last year. The result against us wasn't an accident. We were a better team when it mattered.
(Can't wait to see the last sentence get twisted now.)
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Here's an idea - perhaps the four teams concerned, including us - that's Geelong, Richmond, Adelaide, and Sydney - were actually at differing levels of quality? Revolutionary concept isn't it?
Something like Richmond -> Adelaide ---> Geelong ---> Sydney. In September last year. Born out by those pesky things called results.
But no, if you dare point out that Geelong were miles too good for Sydney it apparently means you hate Geelong. An absolutely moronic view.
sydneys seasons last year is very difficult to gauge. yes, they started 0-6. they then went 14-2 with their only 2 losses being to hawthorn by a single goal each time.
id say both ends of their season were kind of 'out of the box'. they were probably far better than an 0-6 team, but probably not as good as a 14-2 team either...
ultimately, who cares though? most QF losers win the SF, and we were the QF loser. we should have expected to beat sydney, and we did.
the two GFists smashed us and GWS, and we smashed sydney and GWS smashed WC. all history now.
You said Sydney where cooked, what signs of being cooked did they display? Your purely basing this off us giving them a belting
Well Sydney did finish 6th at the end of the home and away season while we finished 2nd.
It was only the horrible beating we received from them the year before that made a lot of us think we'd lose.
The win was a surprise (due to our terrible finals record) but the result was pretty indicative of the ladder positions.
Max Milburn
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Mostly true. I think the size of win was more surprising than anything. And Sydney's ladder position was mainly due to their poor start to the season. Their form in the latter part of the season was pretty good.
their form from round 6, at least W/L although it looks like a healthy % as well, was league best. 2 teams beat them, hawthorn by 6 points twice and geelong in the SF.
No doubt. But ultimately they, like us and everyone else, has to be judged on finals performances. When they faced a top four team - us - they weren't just beaten by a couple of goals; they were completely outclassed.
Max Milburn
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Hopefully, ladder positions don't dictate what happens tomorrow night.
So you and partridge have now done a flip from Sydney were cooked which has no foundation to Geelong outclassed them.
Good to see
Clarkson implementing the Scott blue print against hawthorn.
They have gone from invincible to looking beatable because of what Scott has dissected and implemented against them.
They have gone from invincible to looking beatable because of what Scott has dissected and implemented against them.
geelong and scott made them look beatable by losing to them twice?
looks like clarkson should have implemented the pyke, simpson, hinkley or cameron blue print...
We lost to them by 3 points with ablett missing a sitter to win the game he usually kicks 9/10 times. What we did clearly works.
Nobody else gotten close to them at the MCG.
Quite a shame hawthorn decided to abandon the game plan the second half and let the game open up.
Attacking football does not beat Richmond
Vdubs
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Good move by Scott getting this done before he blew yet another final in spectacular fashion. What a worker and an almighty fraud. I would find it hard to defend these finals performances, but I guess people still will.
Still waiting for the pro Scott crowd to address why we get absolutely smashed off the park in finals. How many first quarters have we won in finals since 2012?
Yes, he is up to it. We don't need to sack him. We can't easily now anyway. Thasnki you early contract
The real issue is the direction he has taken us. Too defensive. Over coached looking team. The versatility thing for instance is him getting the pieces on the board to wherever he likes. Meanwhile the team's skillsets have gone top the shitter. The club needs a review. A big one. But we don't need a new coach. We need to figure out how to create a team that can play finals. Scott, all by himself does not seem to know how to do that. He is not the only coach. Geelong needs skills.
PatrickBateman
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OK, so what's Scott's finals record now since 2011, 3 and 10?
The club committed to a guy long term who can't coach a side to play finals - FACT
Our captain is showing he can't influence the side to get 'up' for finals either - FACT
Nothing will change. The club is soft, mentally and physically. Wholesale change required, just making finals isn't good enough. This side isn't hungry and carrying a bunch of players who need to harden up. The coach is promoting a culture that supports it.
The club committed to a guy long term who can't coach a side to play finals - FACT
Our captain is showing he can't influence the side to get 'up' for finals either - FACT
Nothing will change. The club is soft, mentally and physically. Wholesale change required, just making finals isn't good enough. This side isn't hungry and carrying a bunch of players who need to harden up. The coach is promoting a culture that supports it.
The stats regarding Geelong's first quarter efforts and the various shellackings they've copped are probably more alarming than the record itself. They paint a picture of almost complete ineptitude in finals, which really isn't good enough given the approach taken to building the list and the H&A performances in that time.
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