So was Germany a failure for our injuries?

[Sea fog]

With normal service returning for Elliott and Moore, was this a waste of time and money? Seems these guys will always struggle to get on the park.

 

[76woodenspooners]

 

[Markfs]

For godsake dont mention the war...

 

[jackcass]

Was thinking the same thing.... the fact it's actually Moore's ankle and Elliott copped a massive shove in the back (like Zac Jones' hammy) isn't relevant at all. Heads need to roll.

 

[Pragmatic Shill]

With normal service returning for Elliott and Moore, was this a waste of time and money? Seems these guys will always struggle to get on the park.

Um... No.

Moore has an ankle issue, not a hamstring issue. Elliott's hamstring is a typical hamstring unrelated to the issue that he was plagued with last year.

Players that are prone to soft tissue injuries are going to get them - a visit to a specialist is not going to suddenly cure them. It's about learning how to manage them better that are unique to their bodies. If you look at the footage associated with Elliott's latest injury, he cops a similar shove to the back that Treloar got last year. A visit to the doctor is not going to prevent that.

Come on my dude, try and think a bit logically about these things before creating reactionary threads like this.

 

[Markfs]

It's amazing that a one week visit and a couple of consultations couldnt fix a structural weakness like chronic hamstrings...

I'd put it in the same bag as high altitude training. It has been proved to be bogus and millions and millions of collingwood dollars has been wasted in this area. It makes me angry. Those germans need to be held accountable for their misrepresentation of their skills and the people at the club who were lured in by their false promises need to be sacked.

 

[jonbe54]

No

Let's just say for instance that they continue to have problems . .

Let's just say also that we scrape into 2nd position by 2 premiership points at the end of the home and away

I can guarantee you that those two players were instrumental in enabling us to win a few games this year.

Therefore the cost of the trip to Germany and treatment is offset by us having the inside running at a premiership by not having to travel for an interstate final.

 

[sr36]

No

Let's just say for instance that they continue to have problems . .

Let's just say also that we scrape into 2nd position by 2 premiership points at the end of the home and away

I can guarantee you that those two players were instrumental in enabling us to win a few games this year.

Therefore the cost of the trip to Germany and treatment is offset by us having the inside running at a premiership by not having to travel for an interstate final.

That's logical, but I say we fire up that plane in our avatar and go and bomb the hell out of the Kaiser. They bloody promised the world and have only delivered a small island of hope.

 

[sr36]

Um... No.

Moore has an ankle issue, not a hamstring issue. Elliott's hamstring is a typical hamstring unrelated to the issue that he was plagued with last year.

Players that are prone to soft tissue injuries are going to get them - a visit to a specialist is not going to suddenly cure them. It's about learning how to manage them better that are unique to their bodies. If you look at the footage associated with Elliott's latest injury, he cops a similar shove to the back that Treloar got last year. A visit to the doctor is not going to prevent that.

Come on my dude, try and think a bit logically about these things before creating reactionary threads like this.

Elliott has got structural issues in his back. I'm guessing that the vast majority of the issues that have stopped him from playing a full season since we recruited him are all related and are all related to the issue in his back.

 

[Markfs]

Elliott has got structural issues in his back. I'm guessing that the vast majority of the issues that have stopped him from playing a full season since we recruited him are all related and are all related to the issue in his back.

evidently there's a back specialist in Austria who is a magician at fixing backs....... for a price

 

[sr36]

evidently there's a back specialist in Austria who is a magician at fixing backs....... for a price

Excellent. We'll be in that neck of the woods dropping bombs on Germany from Jonbe's plane. Might as well check it out.

 

[Bad Horse]

If you need targets there are an entire breed of German ponies out there. No pressure.

 

[sr36]

If you need targets there are an entire breed of German ponies out there. No pressure.

Are we going to bomb these ponies or use them as back up for our glorious but fragile show pony? Perhaps body parts for our show pony?

 

[jonbe54]

Correct Sr - I've had back issues for a couple of decades now and have seen every type of specialist in the field.

The back, and particularly the spine is a stupendously complex construction that really is the anchor point for the middle and lower body.

Any injury to the lower spine WILL cause referred pain and tension/tightness in the lower limbs.

Unrelieved tension from referred pain is a sure recipe for unhealthy soft tissue performance and needs to be managed closely.

Which is exactly what the club is doing.

 

[Bad Horse]

Are we going to bomb these ponies or use them as back up for our glorious but fragile show pony? Perhaps body parts for our show pony?

I take the Ripley approach to ponies. Nuke them all from orbit. Its the only way to be sure.

Of course I also recommend that spproach for Carlton supporters, Jehovas witnesses selling the Watchtower, and fans of k pop.

The use of pony offcuts in reconstructions i predict will fall into disfavour after the attempt to give Bill Shorten a charisma implant with parts from a hard drinking but otherwise charming Shetland called Boris may have tragically backfired with repercussions for us all.

 

[jonbe54]

Are we going to bomb these ponies or use them as back up for our glorious but fragile show pony? Perhaps body parts for our show pony?

Pony ligament transplants, pony bone marrow transplants - even pony mane transplants for our balding champions - the opportunities are endless.

 

[ClaytonM]

It's amazing that a one week visit and a couple of consultations couldnt fix a structural weakness like chronic hamstrings...

I'd put it in the same bag as high altitude training. It has been proved to be bogus and millions and millions of collingwood dollars has been wasted in this area. It makes me angry. Those germans need to be held accountable for their misrepresentation of their skills and the people at the club who were lured in by their false promises need to be sacked.

But if we did nothing I would suggest you would be bitching that with all our money we should be spending some of it on renowned specialists to fix some of our biggest assets.

Unfortunately injuries happen and some players are either more prone to injury or unlucky than others. Sometimes s**t just happens. Moore’s injury after all is an ankle.

 

[sr36]

I take the Ripley approach to ponies. Nuke them all from orbit. Its the only way to be sure.

Of course I also recommend that spproach for Carlton supporters, Jehovas witnesses selling the Watchtower, and fans of k pop.

The use of pony offcuts in reconstructions i predict will fall into disfavour after the attempt to give Bill Shorten a charisma implant with parts from a hard drinking but otherwise charming Shetland called Boris may have tragically backfired with repercussions for us all.

So we're talking about a war in Germany with a goal of genocide where the subjects of that genocide are used unsuccessfully for the purpose of scientific experimentation? Impossible. It could never happen. Not in a million years...

 

[Baltimore Jack]

With normal service returning for Elliott and Moore, was this a waste of time and money? Seems these guys will always struggle to get on the park.

Are the current injuries to Moore and Elliott the same as the previous injuries?

 

[good4footy]

Are the current injuries to Moore and Elliott the same as the previous injuries?

Stop it. Are you trying to get the thread closed!

 

[Bad Horse]

Pony ligament transplants, pony bone marrow transplants - even pony mane transplants for our balding champions - the opportunities are endless.

I hope we dont try a pony mane transplant on Reidy. We need him just at the moment.

But truly, why would we dabble in such dark forces? What do we hope to gain? Either the pony defiled implant is rejected by the host, as one would reject Robbo from the Human race. Or - perhaps worse - it might be...accepted.

And then the slow but inexorable process would begin, as the implant invaded the host, transforming, defiling in turn. Subtle outward signs, wearing a Carlton beanie, talking favourably about Eurovision, drinking Kombucha containing beverages, and before long the unfortunate would have the eyes ...dead eyes, like a dolls. And then from our former champion's mouth would come an other worldly screech, and the whole place would look like an Essendon presidents lunch after the rabbit terrine.

Hmmmmm...Kombucha

 

[jonbe54]

I hope we dont try a pony mane transplant on Reidy. We need him just at the moment.

But truly, why would we dabble in such dark forces? What do we hope to gain? Either the pony defiled implant is rejected by the host, as one would reject Robbo from the Human race. Or - perhaps worse - it might be...accepted.

And then the slow but inexorable process would begin, as the implant invaded the host, transforming, defiling in turn. Subtle outward signs, wearing a Carlton beanie, talking favourably about Eurovision, drinking Kombucha containing beverages, and before long the unfortunate would have the eyes ...dead eyes, like a dolls. And then from our former champion's mouth would come an other worldly screech, and the whole place would look like an Essendon presidents lunch after the rabbit terrine.

Hmmmmm...Kombucha

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LOL Horsey what a horror story I humbly beg forgiveness for such heresy, we must maintain our ascendancy at all cost from the riff raff.

 

[Markfs]

But if we did nothing I would suggest you would be bitching that with all our money we should be spending some of it on renowned specialists to fix some of our biggest assets.

Unfortunately injuries happen and some players are either more prone to injury or unlucky than others. Sometimes **** just happens. Moore’s injury after all is an ankle.

Then we arent we sending him to the famous dutch ankle specialist? There's something about this german think that is on the nose....

 

[Markfs]

Excellent. We'll be in that neck of the woods dropping bombs on Germany from Jonbe's plane. Might as well check it out.

curiously, there was also a famous back specialist in dresden ...

 

[TKiL]

Was thinking the same thing.... the fact it's actually Moore's ankle and Elliott copped a massive shove in the back (like Zac Jones' hammy) isn't relevant at all. "Heads need to roll".

don't say that - they'll probably roll their ankles - that's another 1-2 weeks