Recommitted Ollie Wines [re-signed until 2026]

[schmuttt]

Keath 76% DE (16.3 disposals)
May 74% DE (15.1 disposals)

QED

DE is a meaningless stat James Frawley was in the high 70s for years.

 

[Schulzenfest]

Keath 76% DE (16.3 disposals)
May 74% DE (15.1 disposals)

QED

Eddie Betts 63% DE
Ollie Wines 66.7% DE

Ollie Wines more skilful than Eddie Betts confirmed

 

[StandByyourMan]

going to hawks.

 

[boncer34]

I Counted the times he kicked 3+.

Your counting needs serious work.

 

[philthy05]

Your counting needs serious work.

More or less than the guy who reckons 1.5 goal a game Fantasia is a 3 goal a game player?

 

[Thetrader15]

Eddie Betts 63% DE
Ollie Wines 66.7% DE

Ollie Wines more skilful than Eddie Betts confirmed

That's why we are getting rid of

 

[Thetrader15]

DE is a meaningless stat James Frawley was in the high 70s for years.

Better to just go by gut feel for an objective argument then?

 

[schmuttt]

Better to just go by gut feel for an objective argument then?

So you think DE is an actual indicator for good users of the ball?

 

[JUSTWORK]

Better to just go by gut feel for an objective argument then?

Actually watch the game and make an informed decision, DE% stats don’t factor in the amount of backwards and sideways kicks to loose defenders KPDs make. Hence the over inflated stats.

 

[Thetrader15]

Actually watch the game and make an informed decision, DE% stats don’t factor in the amount of backwards and sideways kicks to loose defenders KPDs make. Hence the over inflated stats.

I agree, but just watching the game and making an 'informed decision' is still 'gut feel' / subjective. That's why coaches use stats to back up a theory. Unfortunately, since I left the assistant coaching ranks at AFL level, I don't have access to the raw data to crunch the numbers further.

What we need is a DE broken down by short/med/long kicks and pressure/no-pressure to really get a feel for it

 

[Thetrader15]

So you think DE is an actual indicator for good users of the ball?

Not always - only when it supports my argument

I agree, but just watching the game and making an 'informed decision' is still 'gut feel' / subjective. That's why coaches use stats to back up a theory. Unfortunately, since I left the assistant coaching ranks at AFL level, I don't have access to the raw data to crunch the numbers further.

What we need is a DE broken down by short/med/long kicks and pressure/no-pressure to really get a feel for it

 

[boncer34]

More or less than the guy who reckons 1.5 goal a game Fantasia is a 3 goal a game player?

More. He's gone 4+ 10 times.

And honestly his outlandish claim is completely irrelevant to your incorrect statement.

Classic bigfooty, poster makes incorrect statement, poster gets called out, poster deflects instead of just copping being wrong.

 

[schmuttt]

I agree, but just watching the game and making an 'informed decision' is still 'gut feel' / subjective. That's why coaches use stats to back up a theory. Unfortunately, since I left the assistant coaching ranks at AFL level, I don't have access to the raw data to crunch the numbers further.

What we need is a DE broken down by short/med/long kicks and pressure/no-pressure to really get a feel for it

Weird flex but ok. Anyone working in a coaching setup at afl level would know may is an excellent kick for a key defender.

 

[Thetrader15]

Weird flex but ok. Anyone working in a coaching setup at afl level would know may is an excellent kick for a key defender.

...oops, I forgot to turn on the sarcasm warning light

 

[robbo1981]

Fantasia > Wines.
Id rather keep Fantasia. But if he wanted to go, then a straight swap at worst. He's had a bad year due to carrying an injury. When fit he's a 3 goal a game player.

Hahaha

 

[philthy05]

More. He's gone 4+ 10 times.

And honestly his outlandish claim is completely irrelevant to your incorrect statement.

Classic bigfooty, poster makes incorrect statement, poster gets called out, poster deflects instead of just copping being wrong.

How am i deflecting?

The poster claimed Fantasia is a 3 goals a game player

Despite being wrong about the number of times he’s kicked 3 goals in his career I still proved beyond a doubt he is wrong.

Fantasia averages 1.5 goals and has kicked 3+ in 16 out of nearly 80 career games.

Kicking 3+ Approx 1 in every 5 games doesn’t make someone a 3 goal a game player.

Mistaking 16 times for 9 times in his career didn’t invalidate my point.

 

[boncer34]

How am i deflecting?

Because I corrected your error.

Where in there did I mention any other poster?

I didn't. You bought them up because?

 

[philthy05]

Because I corrected your error.

Where in there did I mention any other poster?

I didn't. You bought them up because?

Because the discussion was about their outlandish claim.

9 times. 14 times. The difference was minimal in the context. It could have been 30X and he still wouldn’t be a 3 goal a game player.

 

[PAFC_1870]

Already come out that he's not going anywhere so this little circle jerk thread.....yeah about as useless as the Amon one.

 

[Mikevk123]

Would love wines but don’t see us getting it done. Dylan Shiel was a mistake

 

[Elmer_Judd]

Wines is staying at Port, according to his manager.

They probably shopped him around but clubs balked at their asking price, no one wants to be fleeced like Hawthorn was last year for Wingard.

 

[boncer34]

Because the discussion was about their outlandish claim.

9 times. 14 times. The difference was minimal in the context. It could have been 30X and he still wouldn’t be a 3 goal a game player.

Did you make an error?

 

[Crow till I die]

Ollie Wines Addresses Rumours About His Future

Ollie Wines’ manager has “unequivocally” shut down suggestions the Port Adelaide co-captain could be “gettable” during the upcoming AFL trade period. Nick Gieschen has told The Advertiser: “It’s unequivocally not happening … 100 per cent. “It’s not even worth discussing. “Ollie loves it there...

www.fiveaa.com.au

 

[Smithy7]

Ollie Wines’ manager has “unequivocally” shut down suggestions the Port Adelaide co-captain could be “gettable” during the upcoming AFL trade period.
Nick Gieschen has told The Advertiser:

“It’s unequivocally not happening … 100 per cent.
“It’s not even worth discussing.
“Ollie loves it there, he’s captain, loves the group and loves Kenny (Power coach Ken Hinkley) … and Port love him.
“It was obviously a difficult year with injury but he’s really excited by next year and really keen to bounce back and lead the boys next year.”

Ollie Wines Addresses Rumours About His Future

Ollie Wines’ manager has “unequivocally” shut down suggestions the Port Adelaide co-captain could be “gettable” during the upcoming AFL trade period. Nick Gieschen has told The Advertiser: “It’s unequivocally not happening … 100 per cent. “It’s not even worth discussing. “Ollie loves it there...

www.fiveaa.com.au

So there you have it ... Ollie not leaving Port ..

 

[Wayne Swan]

Ollie Wines Addresses Rumours About His Future

Ollie Wines’ manager has “unequivocally” shut down suggestions the Port Adelaide co-captain could be “gettable” during the upcoming AFL trade period. Nick Gieschen has told The Advertiser: “It’s unequivocally not happening … 100 per cent. “It’s not even worth discussing. “Ollie loves it there...

www.fiveaa.com.au

Won't kill it, this is BF, wonder how many more pages this will keep dribbling on for?