List Mgmt. 2020 Trade and List Management Thread III

[billnats]

Threeway deal:
Geelong: Higgins
Pies: 30
Us: Stephenson

 

[B4Bear]

The Pies board is absolutely delusional over Stephenson.

 

[Rooboy 96]

because he's 32 and we need the draft capital, having finished second bottom on percentage

30 ain't what we call draft capital, and we don't need the pick if we don't trade Shaun

 

[New_Roo]

Good. Pick 30 for Higgins.

And?


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[SpiderBurton22]

The Pies board is absolutely delusional over Stephenson.

How bad?

Same level as we were over Brown?

 

[Bazzbot13]

Threeway deal:
Geelong: Higgins
Pies: 30
Us: Stephenson

Threeway deal:
Geelong: Higgins
Pies: 30
Us: Stephenson

Threeway deal:
Geelong: Higgins
Pies: 51
Us: Stephenson, 30

Assuming we take Stephensons full salary and I'd be sold.
We may need to tip in a late pick to sell the dream.

 

[New_Roo]

Pick 38 is now gone. I think pick 30 will be used for Higgins.

And then swap up of 28 to their 20 will get it done


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[Horizons_00]

The Pies board is absolutely delusional over Stephenson.

Not one of them realise that they are in a massive salary dump? Everyone on there are completely dumbfounded that he may leave? Pies should demand 2 first rounders?

Complete lack of awareness of what’s going on. Yes, he may not want to leave, but omg read between the lines, pies want him off the books. They have little to no leverage, that’s the situation they are in.

Pies would even pay some of his salary to have Stephenson moved on. Be realistic haha

 

[Hojuman]

Port with the steal Aliir Aliir

21

Aliir Aliir

Age

29

Ht

194cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.2

4star

K

9.3

4star

HB

5.9

4star

M

5.2

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

240.9

4star

D

11.0

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

5.0

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

3star

D

13.0

4star

K

6.4

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

158.4

3star

.

What a bargain.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

If you told me 12 months ago that we will lose Brown, Higgins, delist 11 other players and that we are picking up Stephenson, I would have laughed you all the way to the * board.

 

[Moti]

Port with the steal Aliir Aliir

21

Aliir Aliir

Age

29

Ht

194cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.2

4star

K

9.3

4star

HB

5.9

4star

M

5.2

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

240.9

4star

D

11.0

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

5.0

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

3star

D

13.0

4star

K

6.4

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

158.4

3star

.

What a bargain.

Future 2nd isn't a bad pick though. Good Allir is better, bad Allir much worse.

 

[big_e]

Why is Rawlings rated so highly after being hugely influential in the West Coast flag list build and two majestic pick swap heists?

He wasn't hugely influential in the list build at West Coast.

He became list manager AFTER they'd played in a grand final, and of the 27 Eagles who played ten or more games in their premiership year, only one (Nathan Vardy

19

Nathan Vardy

Age

32

Ht

200cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.3

2star

K

3.2

1star

HB

4.1

3star

CL

1.3

3star

HO

17.9

5star

No current season stats available

D

7.6

2star

K

3.6

2star

HB

4.0

3star

CL

0.4

3star

HO

15.0

5star

) was traded in during his time as list manager.

 

[B4Bear]

How bad?

Same level as we were over Brown?

Worse, much worse.

About our level when we first found out that he is leaving.

 

[New_Roo]

because he's 32 and we need the draft capital, having finished second bottom on percentage

Disagree a pick in the 30s not worth it... more meaningful to us to keep for another year plus don't want to make teams stronger for no particular reason


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[GoldenMagpie16]

I come in peace, How about this for a deal
Collingwood future first-rounder and Stephenson
for 11 and 28

 

[giantroo]

 

[Harris 10]

I come in peace, How about this for a deal
Collingwood future first-rounder and Stephenson
for 11 and 28

our first 2 picks won't be involved in any deal

 

[Merlin007]

I know we all have our favourite players, but I'm really surprised how many people want nothing to change having finished second last.

To state the obvious, it's a regulated market (TPP, draft etc) which means the principal way to rebuild is through high-end draft picks, which in turn requires trading out at least some of the value you have to start again. Hence BBB and Higgo.

So in short, I don't get the hand wringing - unless people would prefer to keep finishing second last

 

[buttsauce]

I come in peace, How about this for a deal
Collingwood future first-rounder and Stephenson
for 11 and 28

take out the first rounders and you are getting warm

 

[Flawed Genius]

I come in peace, How about this for a deal
Collingwood future first-rounder and Stephenson
for 11 and 28

Can you leave in peace too?

 

[So You Think]

The Pies board is absolutely delusional over Stephenson.

Can't wait for him to come over to Arden St for the cost of a slab and a couple of tatt's tickets, then they'll really hate us. Loving it

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

I come in peace, How about this for a deal
Collingwood future first-rounder and Stephenson
for 11 and 28

It's hard to place a true indicative value as we don't publicly, or truly, know why he's even contemplating leaving. We can guess of course. It will be like the Brown deal I suspect in the sense that the player is normally worth more, but extenuating circumstances have driven down the trade value.

I honestly don't see us giving up anything to do with our first rounders after the delistings, Pies salary dumps and our rebuild, etc. I'm thinking future picks with decent points value, but it depends how much salary we are taking on.

 

[Flawed Genius]

Carlton fan suggesting a Jack Silvagni

1

Jack Silvagni

Age

26

Ht

194cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.0

3star

K

7.1

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.9

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

5.3

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

1.3

1star

M

1.7

2star

T

0.7

1star

G

0.7

4star

D

9.2

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.8

4star

and a future second rounder for Jed

NOW AS YOU KNOW I am possibly the North boards BIGGEST Silvagni fan, but I don't like the deal, readers

 

[jaspers_barber]

We should absolutely be saying to Geelong we want 30 and 28 upgraded to 20. Or GAGF!

Do this, and I’d be asking the question to the dogs re 14 for a stack of 2nds (that aren’t 20).

then I’d be asking the question to * to split 6, 7 or 8 for 14 and 20. They get the picks for Dunkley and Caldwell. I cbf working it out...

 

[The Filth Wizard]

I come in peace, How about this for a deal
Collingwood future first-rounder and Stephenson
for 11 and 28

I don't mind this hypothetical. Puts Stephenson around 22 if your future first sits at 14 (5th) and I'd be even happier deathriding you lower.