Analysis Pick 1: Jason Horne-Francis vs rest of the field

[Shinboner1]

Have we ever so looked forward to Draft night? I think not.


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I'm super keen to see what happens during the trade period tbh.
I hope we can nab someone super left field.

 

[barnrokn]

If this is your no1 pick apart from Daicos then the waters are shallow. Though I think people get fixated on one or two players and this wil be the draft where a number 35 was the no1 pick, and you top 20 could end up at finishing neat the tails end, it’s that sort of year and the during covid. Personally I really think Hobbs from Ballarat unless he lacks pace and marking ability is the real no 1

 

[1975]

Watched the podcast video (2020) and gut feel is he isn't the type to want to go home.

I really really want to go live in Adelaide,
Now that’s something you don’t hear very often.

(I would like to formally apologise to all NM supporters in Adelaide)

 

[Northball]

If this is your no1 pick apart from Daicos then the waters are shallow. Though I think people get fixated on one or two players and this wil be the draft where a number 35 was the no1 pick, and you top 20 could end up at finishing neat the tails end, it’s that sort of year and the during covid. Personally I really think Hobbs from Ballarat unless he lacks pace and marking ability is the real no 1

Welcome back Brett

 

[DuckYeah]

Callaghan is a poor mans LDU.

 

[DuckYeah]

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He can focus his game on Carey, GAJ, Lethal, Dusty and Plugga for all I care. He’s not in the same room as Horne, actually, he’s not even banging the door down. wtf is this?

 

[DuckYeah]

Obviously take Horne but we can sign Callaghan when we are in flag contention in 3 years

Wont need too. Our mids are set for 10+ years.

 

[Ligma]

Wont need too. Our mids are set for 10+ years.

We will always find room

 

[DuckYeah]

We will always find room

Nah, stand by my words. Callaghan is a peasants LDU.

 

[Marstermind]

If this is your no1 pick apart from Daicos then the waters are shallow. Though I think people get fixated on one or two players and this wil be the draft where a number 35 was the no1 pick, and you top 20 could end up at finishing neat the tails end, it’s that sort of year and the during covid. Personally I really think Hobbs from Ballarat unless he lacks pace and marking ability is the real no 1

Look. I get why you're sceptical about high end draft picks. Since your team last finished top 4 (2000) you've had Livingston, Walker, Murphy, Kennedy, Gibbs, Kreuzer, Weitering, Dow and Walsh as Top 5 National draft picks. And then traded in top 5 picks like Judd, McLean, Plowman, Pickett and Setterfield. And what have you seen any of them achieve for your club?

 

[Nutjob]

If this is your no1 pick apart from Daicos then the waters are shallow. Though I think people get fixated on one or two players and this wil be the draft where a number 35 was the no1 pick, and you top 20 could end up at finishing neat the tails end, it’s that sort of year and the during covid. Personally I really think Hobbs from Ballarat unless he lacks pace and marking ability is the real no 1

So you’re claiming Hobbs should be pick 1 and you haven’t seen him play? If you had of seen him play you would know if he ‘lacks pace and marking ability.’ I think what you’re really trying to say is that you have NFI.


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[SonofSamsquanch]

If this is your no1 pick apart from Daicos then the waters are shallow. Though I think people get fixated on one or two players and this wil be the draft where a number 35 was the no1 pick, and you top 20 could end up at finishing neat the tails end, it’s that sort of year and the during covid. Personally I really think Hobbs from Ballarat unless he lacks pace and marking ability is the real no 1

So if he slides to number 2 after we pick Horne and GWS take Hobbs with the collingwood pick, you'd be expecting for Carlton to get him in 2 years when he lands on the GWS reject pile like your recruiters have sourced the rest of your team then?

 

[Tas]

If this is your no1 pick apart from Daicos then the waters are shallow. Though I think people get fixated on one or two players and this wil be the draft where a number 35 was the no1 pick, and you top 20 could end up at finishing neat the tails end, it’s that sort of year and the during covid. Personally I really think Hobbs from Ballarat unless he lacks pace and marking ability is the real no 1

The best players in the comp have never gone the same order as they were drafted and it is very rare that the player taken with the first pick was the best of the lot. That isn't the purpose of the draft and it isn't why #1 or the top end of the picks have such a high value. They are valuable because there is much less risk with stand-out juniors becoming very good AFL players, if developed well, than there is of picking out the player in the 30-40 range that is going to bolt. Having an early draft pick tends to be a risk averse position, if you don't want that access to the best available then clubs can trade it down for multiple later picks then you can go for the shotgun approach to list management and hope you hit something.

If Horne was available last year, he probably would still have been in the top 3 taken. He is similar to Fyfe and Danger in that he isn't an elite kick, but he has that kind of power quality and is very capable going forward. Who knows if that translate well at AFL level or how it gels with our group or if our game plan would suit him or not. It will be up to our recruiters and list managers to determine if they think he can reach his potential with us or not.

I like Hobbs, not sure where he will end up, but after taking Phillips and Powell last year I don't think we will get another inside mid given LDU and Simpkin are capable of getting the contested possession and clearance either.

 

[DuckYeah]

Look. I get why you're sceptical about high end draft picks. Since your team last finished top 4 (2000) you've had Livingston, Walker, Murphy, Kennedy, Gibbs, Kreuzer, Weitering, Dow and Walsh as Top 5 National draft picks. And then traded in top 5 picks like Judd, McLean, Plowman, Pickett and Setterfield. And what have you seen any of them achieve for your club?

Lol careful, you’ll be on arson charges after that.

 

[shinboner magic]

I know Horne-Francis is hard at it but is Callaghan? From his highlight reel, i saw the Lonies.

Reminds me of Bread McKenzie

 

[Eggs11]

Let's hope we get some form of national champs this year. It will be a really good indicator of ability against his own age group. It will also be a good opportunity for JHF to show his wares as a midfielder rather than a half forward.

He better light it up at the champs because, if he doesn’t, this thread will implode.

 

[Brett Cummings]

He better light it up at the champs because, if he doesn’t, this thread will implode.

I'm literally waiting for you guys not to pick him just to see the amount of damage control this board will do. It will break the website.

 

[Psicosis]

I'm literally waiting for you guys not to pick him just to see the amount of damage control this board will do. It will break the website.

Nothing will beat when you didn’t get pick 2 for Crouch last year. Could hear you crying from your mum’s basement all the way from Victoria!

 

[Brett Cummings]

Nothing will beat when you didn’t get pick 2 for Crouch last year. Could hear you crying from your mum’s basement all the way from Victoria!

I said band 1 for crouch dude which ended up being pick 2 because we were bottom. Was he worth pick 2? No but thats how band 1 works when you're bottom. We would of got more for him if we traded him when he won the bnf in 2019.

 

[Shinboner1]

I said band 1 for crouch dude which ended up being pick 2 because we were bottom. Was he worth pick 2? No but thats how band 1 works when you're bottom. We would of got more for him if we traded him when he won the bnf in 2019.

You should have traded matt crouch before he spend the year out with injury too.

 

[Brett Cummings]

Welcome back Brett

That's not me but its nice that I live in your head rent free.

 

[Psicosis]

Brett Cummings honest question… will you be most disappointed when:

(A) Adelaide didn’t get band 1 for Crouch
(B) Adelaide didn’t select Hollands or McDonald
(C) Adelaide miss out on Horne-Francis

 

[Brett Cummings]

Brett Cummings honest question… will you be most disappointed when:

(A) Adelaide didn’t get band 1 for Crouch
(B) Adelaide didn’t select Hollands or McDonald
(C) Adelaide miss out on Horne-Francis

I'd rather pick 2 last year than horne this year. We got totally ****ed over with crouch and it was our list management's fault.

 

[The Dingrel]

I would just like to say let's cool down a little until we see more from Horne at Nationals.
History tells me NAB League form way superior to SANFL League from longer term recruiting so i would like to see Horne against his peers some more..

Interesting SANFL League stats to compare in their draft year:

Jason Horne (15 games):

Disposals: 15.5 (at 73% DE)

Goals: 0.7 per game

Tackles: 3.7 per game


Dylan Stephens (13 games):

Disposals: 18.1 (at 79% DE)

Goals: 0.6 per game

Tackles: 4.5 per game


I personally love Horne and expect him to be at Roos - but I would certainly be listening to offers from Crows and looking at Nationals for some more comparable form.
We have seen Horne in one game this year with the AFL academy where Daicos and him had midfield minutes - Daicos had 26 and Horne 12.

in my mind picking daicos at 1 is a no brainer!... not in a million years do the pies not match. Fk em!

 

[Shinboner1]

Brett Cummings honest question… will you be most disappointed when:

(A) Adelaide didn’t get band 1 for Crouch
(B) Adelaide didn’t select Hollands or McDonald
(C) Adelaide miss out on Horne-Francis

At least thilthorpe isnt looking terrible.