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Player Watch Nick Daicos - Can he be the GOAT?
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I'll take that as a yes. Which is why Fly's charity votes earlier in the year are as blasphemous as posters said they were.
Makes the award a farce.
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You haven't answered the question about the likely larger discrepancy between the votes awarded to Cripps by Voss, compared to those awarded to him by opposition coaches, as has been highlighted in this very thread, in response to your ridiculous claims.
So, what are your thoughts?
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Voss did Daicos dirty. He was the best player on the winning side. Should he have gotten the 5? Likely not, but he definitely should've been at the 2 - 3 mark. Saying Fly made a mockery of it and ignoring Voss' votes makes no sense. Cripps's stats and influence were almost identical to Daicos, except his side lost.
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I've seen a few references to it but can't remember any of said data. If you'd like to show me some specific examples I'll gladly have a look.
Fly showed his cards in the coaches votes vs Carlton, was one of the most laughable instances of bias or favouritism you'll ever see.
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Cripps influence was a pretty clear BOG. Recognized by Pies fans, Blues fans and neutrals alike on the day. Nicky played a decent game but shrunk in the last quarter when the game ramped up, one could easily argue he wasn't in the top 5 players that day but Cripps was without a doubt BOG that game. Did Nicky probably deserve 1-2? Sure... But 5? Completely farcical.
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Right, so you're saying McRae gave him a couple of charity votes and that Voss ripped him off a couple of votes, assumedly favouring Cripps. So it worked out square?
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That was a single game. McRae clearly did it on numerous occasions where the general public was left totally bemused how he got any votes at all for games he wasn't even close to the best.
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I regularly walked past people stopped in their tracks with gaping mouths. The streets were abuzz with bemusement.
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Cripps had zero influence for most of the game. Daicos was massive in the first when the game was on the line, Cripps was massive in the final quarter, but the game was over. I would've put Hewitt as BOG. He dominated clearances and was involved in more scores from memory. Cripps goes above Daicos as he almost pulled off a miracle, but only just. One quarter doesn't make up for the first three. I'm not even sure he touched it in the second quarter?
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I'm not surprised. Farcical Fly had the whole AFL world befuddled
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You really do have a whole world of befuddled fans in your head muttering about Nick ****ing Daicos, don't you?
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Daicos will do WalshistheGOAT's head in over the next dozen seasons.
By the time his career is done, Walshy won't know whether he's Arthur or Martha.
He'll be spending the next dozen years explaining away voting biases that result in individual awards for Daicos, umpiring biases that result in premierships for Daicos, in the same way he has since the start of his career.
It's going to be a beautiful thing.
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This coming from a Pies fan who probably thinks Nicky is already the GOAT
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I don't need to worry about Nicky winning too many individual awards, you've told us all over and over again for the past 4-5 years that they are meaningless if your team's missing finals. Given the future looks rather bleak down at Pieland, if you all want to hang your hats on Nicky winning some individual awards while languishing down the bottom of the ladder with the soon to be retirement village residents then you have my approval to do so!
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There is only one befuddled fan in my head. Befuddled as I can't explain how the **** he does what he does.This coming from a Pies fan who probably thinks Nicky is already the GOAT
But nah, he's not GOAT yet. Pendles is Collingwood's GOAT for the sheer excellence for so bloody long - Nick's not even close yet for even our club let alone the league. The thing is though, Nick at 21 has already gone past Pendles's peak. Pretty scary for those with a chorus of muttering voices in their head looking to knock him.
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LOL
You are seriously going to pissed with how many accolades this bloke gets through out his career.
Glorious!
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I'm not too worried
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I wouldn't bother mate, when Pie supporters aren't stealing Mercedes and crashing them, they're obsessively typing and putting undue pressure on a kid
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I just enjoy giving Nicky fair criticism on here in case he's reading!
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That's the thing for me, and it's not just Collingwood supporters doing it, it's also the media.I wouldn't bother mate, when Pie supporters aren't stealing Mercedes and crashing them, they're obsessively typing and putting undue pressure on a kid
Sure, praise him by all means, but don't go overboard (eg this thread and certain media commentators) - all it does is put high expectations, and as you said undue pressure, on someone who is still just a kid.
Just let him play, and keep a lid on the over the top accolades and drooling - save that for later in his career.
I hope he is getting good support, advice and guidance - which you would think he is, given his pedigree.
Now that he has won the prestigious ABC best player award, it's the skies the limit from here on in. Have they updated Wiki yet ?I wouldn't bother mate, when Pie supporters aren't stealing Mercedes and crashing them, they're obsessively typing and putting undue pressure on a kid
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