Gibbs would not have made any difference to the result of the 2017 grand finalAnd is Carlton the only club you lose players to?
As far as Betts and Jacobs go, that was a while ago now and it looks like they are going much further if 2018 is anythingto go by.
Menzel... do you even know the full story? And it aint like he's tearing it up for you mob.
Gibbs, well, you paid a king's ransom albeit a day late and a dollar short. I remember we were 30 odds points down in our Elimination Final against Richmond in 2013. We ended up winning by 20. Gibbs was absolutely crucial. Played an absolute blinder. Would not have won it without him. Wouldve been handy in 2017 for you mob. If theres one club he can play well against, its Richmond. Maybe your list managers arent all that great afterall?
As far as Carltons player retention goes, all of our key components re-signed. We have seemingly address our retention issues at least for the time being. Have Adelaide?