Discussion 2021 General AFL Discussion

[Diehard Saint]

West Coast are a totally different team at home to the one that plays away, we're the opposite, we play better away from home than at Marvel.

Just texted that exact thing to my son’s in laws who are big WCE supporters. ( Although we could have beaten them there). They’ve stopped watching.

Remember that run of about 29 Friday night wins in a row we had at Etihad….that was nice!

 

[George]

Eagles really honoring Shannon Hurn

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Shannon Hurn

Age

36

Ht

187cm

Wt

95kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.9

5star

K

15.7

5star

HB

5.2

4star

M

7.0

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

389.5

5star

D

16.1

4star

K

12.1

5star

HB

4.0

3star

M

5.3

5star

T

1.0

2star

MG

271.6

4star

D

19.0

5star

K

11.6

4star

HB

7.4

5star

M

6.8

5star

T

1.6

4star

 

[Munga]

Banger is going well

 

[Diehard Saint]

Gary Ayres being let go from Port Melbourne. Worth a punt as an assistant?

 

[Diehard Saint]

Meantime, Eagles making sure we’re not the biggest talking point this round.
2.7 close to 3/4 time and 50 points down.

 

[pluggeranddoc]

Looks like we're the frontrunners to get Clarko now, surely Collingwood can't sack Harvey after this performance, likewise Teague after last night.

Well played Saints.

They don't need to sack him as his is only a caretaker appointment.
Very long odds to get this or any other senior job.

 

[Ephemeral Hope]

Meantime, Eagles making sure we’re not the biggest talking point this round.
2.7 close to 3/4 time and 50 points down.

Eagles trying to poach clarko from us

 

[Diehard Saint]

Eagles trying to poach clarko from us

Seriously….here’s the plan -
Clarko going to get paid $900k not to coach next season anyway and re-energise, and then…






….take over when Ratts’ contract comes to an end.

 

[Ephemeral Hope]

Seriously….here’s the plan -
Clarko going to get paid $900k not to coach next season anyway and re-energise, and then…






….take over when Ratts’ contract comes to an end.

The club had to get out of my shadow, Sam's driving the bus: Clarko

Alastair Clarkson explains why he's severing ties with Hawthorn before the end of his contract

www.afl.com.au

While Clarkson said he was contractually free to coach elsewhere next year, he denied he was heading to another AFL club at the end of the season.

"I'm just going to take a breather. Right at the present time, my commitment is to have a spell and see where 2023 will take me."

He's taking 2022 off. Think you might be right

 

[lewdogs]

Banger is going well

I would love Banger in charge at our club. Wouldn't cop the crap effort we've seen this year.

 

[SaintersUnite]

Imagine if we had actually won like we were supposed to, could have overtaken Wet Toast


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[George]

I would love Banger in charge at our club. Wouldn't cop the crap effort we've seen this year.

I did initially too but I think he's a pretty reserved fella and I think we need a more in your face type as our next in charge. Clarkson is absolutely that so if not as head coach I would like him at the club in some capacity next year if we can. I also am starting to go against bringing in former players or people wedded to the Saints, I don't think they would adopt the more brutal mentality of what I think is required for this playing group - feel our list is largely mentally inept as it pertains to what is needed to perform professionally and consistently. There's no ruthless edge to our list. Only one I've seen come in to our club with St.Kilda ties and still be able to coach a ruthlessness into the group was Grant Thomas.

I'm actually glad the coaching group we have is largely outsiders. Hamill the only exception but he will probably go at the end of the year. There's a culture at St.Kilda that has to change, I just struggle to see how that can be changed by somebody who has been part of it before.

 

[L_W_P]

There's a culture at St.Kilda that has to change, I just struggle to see how that can be changed by somebody who has been part of it before.

Scott Watters tried.

He gave it to the group honestly; Runner Up is not good enough.

Then they turned on him...

 

[George]

Scott Watters tried.

He gave it to the group honestly; Runner Up is not good enough.

Then they turned on him...

See the difference between Thomas & Watters is that Thomas actually respected the leaders of the football club. What a mistake it was bringing that clown in.

 

[KingsRansom]

Mind my innocence on this one. But what was the deal with the Watters and players thing?

 

[gringo2011]

Mind my innocence on this one. But what was the deal with the Watters and players thing?

Tried this guys techniques.

 

[George]

Mind my innocence on this one. But what was the deal with the Watters and players thing?

One of the first things he did at the club is demand all memorabilia from around the club to be removed because as he told the playing group, they shouldn't be accepting mediocrity or being runners up.

See there's a way of going about things with respect, a true leader doesn't act the way that Watters did. For many of our senior players at the time, there had been an extreme amount of work done for us to get to that point - especially considering the facilities the players were working out of and the obvious pressures that come with delivering St.Kilda a premiership. He disregarded all of the hard work they had put in to get as far as they did, and he did it just over 12 months after it had happened.

Many players would have been emotionally wrecked after the two years that preceded Watters - who, being new to the club, had absolutely no idea of what had been involved or required to get to that point.

It was basically just a real kick in the guts to a bunch of people who were already hurting. He could have galvanised the group by bringing them together and he could've done a better job on getting them to move on from their disappointments but the way he went about it just showed an obvious lack of empathy and social awareness really. He was a complete disgrace.

And I can't see how people can possibly think those players were soft for reacting negatively to what he did, as they'd just spent 7 of the past 8 years in or around the top four. That takes mental resilience in itself, not to mention the way Ross demanded excellence. That group was already mentally tough, we saw it for near on a decade before the angry little midget got there.

I guess he was on a power trip or something, clearly didn't have the skills to coach at the top level.

 

[Dr Spaceman]

One of the first things he did at the club is demand all memorabilia from around the club to be removed because as he told the playing group, they shouldn't be accepting mediocrity or being runners up.

See there's a way of going about things with respect, a true leader doesn't act the way that Watters did. For many of our senior players at the time, there had been an extreme amount of work done for us to get to that point - especially considering the facilities the players were working out of and the obvious pressures that come with delivering St.Kilda a premiership. He disregarded all of the hard work they had put in to get as far as they did, and he did it just over 12 months after it had happened.

Many players would have been emotionally wrecked after the two years that preceded Watters - who, being new to the club, had absolutely no idea of what had been involved or required to get to that point.

It was basically just a real kick in the guts to a bunch of people who were already hurting. He could have galvanised the group by bringing them together and he could've done a better job on getting them to move on from their disappointments but the way he went about it just showed an obvious lack of empathy and social awareness really. He was a complete disgrace.

And I can't see how people can possibly think those players were soft for reacting negatively to what he did, as they'd just spent 7 of the past 8 years in or around the top four. That takes mental resilience in itself, not to mention the way Ross demanded excellence. That group was already mentally tough, we saw it for near on a decade before the angry little midget got there.

I guess he was on a power trip or something, clearly didn't have the skills to coach at the top level.

Exclusive footage of his first day as St Kilda coach:

 

[joop]

Bang on.
Not only did she run with the story, she stuck up for herself and stood her ground when the boys came for her.
Like her or not she knows her sh*t, but people will still bash her and her credibility.

What’s funny about this post George?

 

[Bill Mohr]

The club had to get out of my shadow, Sam's driving the bus: Clarko

Alastair Clarkson explains why he's severing ties with Hawthorn before the end of his contract

www.afl.com.au

While Clarkson said he was contractually free to coach elsewhere next year, he denied he was heading to another AFL club at the end of the season.

"I'm just going to take a breather. Right at the present time, my commitment is to have a spell and see where 2023 will take me."

He's taking 2022 off. Think you might be right

Clarkson is a bit smarter than the average bear and gives nothing away that he doesnt want too. Will have a gig lined up.

 

[Mowman]

He'll be locked in at Carlton in weeks if not days I reckon

Put my money on him being at Carlton

 

[StCicatriz]

Collingwood giving West Coast a touch up early, shows how bad we're going when we lost to them, not to mention losing to Carlton with no ruckman.

Wce at home are a very different team.

 

[StCicatriz]

I would love Banger in charge at our club. Wouldn't cop the crap effort we've seen this year.

They got smashed by port the week before

 

[sunny3193]

Clarkson is a bit smarter than the average bear and gives nothing away that he doesnt want too. Will have a gig lined up.

Totally agree with you Bill.
It is foolish to take media reports on face value but it would appear Clarkson has got himself a $900k clear payout (without having to worry about any offsets against any other income he might earn next year).
If so, I’m inclined to believe that he will take full advantage of that and have a sabbatical next year. Fits in with his personal life balance well given his youngest is completing VCE next year.
Then I can see him taking care of the AFL’s problem child on the Gold Coast with a $600k salary to fit into their cap, but also a $1mill marketing allowance that will be excluded.
The AFL will be able to sell that to any restless GC players quite easily.

 

[Diehard Saint]

Wce at home are a very different team.

And we still nearly got ‘em. Bipolar team. Go figure!