Cameron_Jezza
Team Captain
- Sep 12, 2021
- 428
- 409
- AFL Club
- Geelong
Congrats on the flag. I would suggest trading your 2022r2 for richmond pick 40,44 to get the picks to help fill your 6 lost spots.Means we have 6 spots for them.
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Congrats on the flag. I would suggest trading your 2022r2 for richmond pick 40,44 to get the picks to help fill your 6 lost spots.Means we have 6 spots for them.
Sounds like it's time to make Will Day and CJ co-captains to lead the next generation of Hawks?Seem to recall another club, about 10-12 years ago who moved on all their senior players and went down the youth path.
So when is this Hawthorn firesale starting? Kennett has already apologised to the members for what is about to happen.
It seems to me, that with the mass signing of our players yesterday, was Us putting our Cue back into our 2021 trade rack.Offer 37 for Breust or Gunston and let's get it done.
We’d have to give them two second/third rounders back. I still would rather not do it do it though, let’s just hope he never wants to leave.I'd have a look at Wingard, but at P17? Wouldn't have thought so...
Also people suggesting we wouldn't accept P2, P8 and P19 for Jackson have rocks in your head. Dogga is an unbelievable talent, but that shits to crazy for even Freo...
I'd agree with you if we were sitting mid table, but the reality is that we just won a flag with our current list and LJ was a huge part of that. Those draft picks might be great players or they might not be - history shows that you can't know for sure. What we do know that Jackson is a great player and we're more likely to win another premiership in 2022 with him on our list than a group of first year players. Hence my preference to keep him in this hypothetical scenario.I'd have a look at Wingard, but at P17? Wouldn't have thought so...
Also people suggesting we wouldn't accept P2, P8 and P19 for Jackson have rocks in your head. Dogga is an unbelievable talent, but that shits to crazy for even Freo...
Yes, shut this thing down.Tim Lamb just said there's never been an internal or external conversation about Luke Jackson moving to Fremantle.
I'd agree with you if we were sitting mid table, but the reality is that we just won a flag with our current list and LJ was a huge part of that. Those draft picks might be great players or they might not be - history shows that you can't know for sure. What we do know that Jackson is a great player and we're more likely to win another premiership in 2022 with him on our list than a group of first year players. Hence my preference to keep him in this hypothetical scenario.
Melbourne have consistently shown they place value on that “additional” year of development by trading away future picks to trade into the current draft.
It needs to catch up at some time where Melbourne take a year off having a first round pick, like 2017 and 2018, but that was also to target Lever and May.
They also take calculated risks to not overpay at the draft if they want a certain player type e.g. trading down in the draft so they could still get one of Pickett or Weightman, instead of getting a more highly rated player that was likely available at their pick prior to trading down.
It’s easy to say as I support Melbourne and pay less attention to how other teams do it, but Melbourne seem to work this the best and the results seem to speak for themselves. Nine premiership players drafted from 2017-2020 National drafts. There don’t appear to be any “misses” with picks under 40 through that period, although the jury is still out on Laurie and Rosman after only one year.
I reckon we are gonna wait for a year we target a bit free agent to eat the 1st round pick pain. Don't know when but at some point we will have a chance to target a decent free agent.
I don’t think it’s a coincidence - they pick on WA kids from the second they get drafted and the ones who fall for it are all clearly very emotionally vulnerable. Not exactly a surprise that having a s**t club from home trying to unsettle them throughout the first few years of their career results in them playing like s**t when they get there.Not saying it’s happening with Jackson but it’s kind of funny how every time Freo gets a WA player they’ve targeted the results are disastrous at worst and mediocre at best. Bennell, Colyer, Conca, Hogan, Lobb, McCarthy and Wilson - all seriously underwhelming.
I'd have a look at Wingard, but at P17? Wouldn't have thought so...
Also people suggesting we wouldn't accept P2, P8 and P19 for Jackson have rocks in your head. Dogga is an unbelievable talent, but that shits to crazy for even Freo...
3 first rounders is unknockable for a kid who while being very good is still running on potentialI'd agree with you if we were sitting mid table, but the reality is that we just won a flag with our current list and LJ was a huge part of that. Those draft picks might be great players or they might not be - history shows that you can't know for sure. What we do know that Jackson is a great player and we're more likely to win another premiership in 2022 with him on our list than a group of first year players. Hence my preference to keep him in this hypothetical scenario.
3 first rounders is unknockable for a kid who while being very good is still running on potential
That kind of haul gets you a Bont or Petracca
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Im not trading him for that package, he was that good in the grand final and is barely 20. Those picks don’t buy you a pettacca and don’t guarantee a star either.Not really running on potential now though.
Premiership player and had good to major impact in games early in his career.
Takes contested grabs and kicks goals.
Also has high marketability.
I’m a Melbourne fan and I wouldn’t even consider trading him as he will get people through the gates and memberships bought (even for 3 first rounders)
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Bookends.! from the draft.Someone to replace May in a year or two would be the obvious target, or a ready made gun big forward given the ages of Brown and McDonald.
Exactly. We target bookends this draft then by time May/Brown retires we should have ready made replacements. I know it's not that easy, but for the first time possibly ever, I'm backing in our recruiting staff to find them and our development staff to get them up to the level required. Petty is still young. Keep forgetting how young he is. Gonna be a solid full back for a long time.Bookends.! from the draft.
Exactly. We target bookends this draft then by time May/Brown retires we should have ready made replacements. I know it's not that easy, but for the first time possibly ever, I'm backing in our recruiting staff to find them and our development staff to get them up to the level required. Petty is still young. Keep forgetting how young he is. Gonna be a solid full back for a long time.
I like him. But he's one more injury riddled season away from being delisted..Marty Hore goes ok too
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Marty Hore goes ok too
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I feel stupid for asking this, but what is a "deathriding" thread? I've never even heard that word.Another deathriding thread for us on the Adelaide board?
Back-to-back is inevitable now.
I feel stupid for asking this, but what is a "deathriding" thread? I've never even heard that word.
Thanks!Hoping a team fails because you hold their future pick.