Ultimate Glory 2023 Trade speculation and Shinbeggars discussion

[Lickmesocks]

First to admit that I'm not sure I've ever seen him play, but his stats are pretty bad.

Where would we play him & how could we make him good?

 

[Bugs1977]

Cats are all over him like a Bali suit.

This is what happens the moment he signs. Someone needs to send this to his socials asap

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

Imagine being a Port recruiter and reading about first round pick demands for Esava and BZT..I am sure tomorrow Bevo will also ask for a round 1 pick for Sweet.

All this when you have sweet * all in picks this year.

All these demands of first round picks, we may get our self a player when deals fall though lol!

1. Brockman WCE
2. koschitzke
3. Hawks? McKay - Zerk-Thatcher?

 

[Bugs1977]

First to admit that I'm not sure I've ever seen him play, but his stats are pretty bad.

Where would we play him & how could we make him good?

Looks like Bazaleka but not as sexy

 

[cryptor]

This is what happens the moment he signs. Someone needs to send this to his socials asap
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Pardon my lisp, but that’s meth’d up.

 

[Platten44]

The Scum are paying McKay enough to easily trigger band one. DoDo is feeding Jon Ralph lies so he looks good on the way out to his supporters and can say oh well the AFL cooked the herbs and spices. One thing is very clear, their offer is more than we were willing to pay in guaranteed money and years.

 

[Braidz]

Ralphsmith is very meh. If he was any good he’d be staying at the tigers now they are starting to rebuild. I’ve never seen him play well.

Bailey Smith

6

Bailey Smith

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

8.5

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

9.6

4star

HB

10.2

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

3.2

4star

D

14.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.6

4star

is a star. Been played out of position for most of the year. By a very ordinary coach. If he wants to come to us we get it done.

 

[hawkmang]

This is what happens the moment he signs. Someone needs to send this to his socials asap
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Is that Brian Taylor in a wig?

 

[Mr Meeseeks]

He's worth a first. He's quality.

I'd just be worried Cats will tempt him with the usual beach bum parlour tricks nonsense. We need to throw our cash at him, as we have serious cash reserves to burn (with McKay out, we'd surely have to be close to cap base at this point).

Don't stress mate. I've said it before, he's a hawthorn nuffy, he's instructed his management to troll the cats, he'll be with us this year or next.

Agree he's worth a first, he's a gun goal kicking mid.

 

[naysayer]

The Scum are paying McKay enough to easily trigger band one. DoDo is feeding Jon Ralph lies so he looks good on the way out to his supporters and can say oh well the AFL cooked the herbs and spices. One thing is very clear, their offer is more than we were willing to pay in guaranteed money and years.

The AFL doesn't tell anybody exactly where the bands delineations are, to make it harder for clubs to game the system.
Any contract offer to McKay could contain triggers or incentives which don't count in his base salary. If his base salary is below 800k, there's certainly a chance it "only" triggers band 2.

What is lost in all of this is that an end of first round compensation pick is actually still extremely good value for a player like McKay. The Cats are probably going to end up with a mid-late second round pick for Esava.

 

[projectdingley]

Ralphsmith is very meh. If he was any good he’d be staying at the tigers now they are starting to rebuild. I’ve never seen him play well.

Bailey Smith is a star. Been played out of position for most of the year. By a very ordinary coach. If he wants to come to us we get it done.

IF… Bailey Smith is a ‘star’, THEN… I’ve lost all hope.

 

[Slysh]

No chance. Dogs will want our first at the minimum.

Smith isn’t worth even a second rounder in my opinion. Dosen’t tackle and way too soft.

LOL

 

[bigbuddyboy]

Really hope that the stink kicked up around north’s hand outs last week mean the AFLs secret sauce finds McKay only worthy of band 2 compensation.

 

[PenAndPaper]

The Bailey Smith

6

Bailey Smith

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

8.5

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

9.6

4star

HB

10.2

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

3.2

4star

D

14.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.6

4star

hate is very strange. His finals series in 21 was insanely good and he's been good since despite Bevo playing him out of position constantly.

His kicking isn't great but just about everything else with his game is very good when at his best.
In saying that, I can't see us getting him because I don't know if we would offer a first and I don't think Dogs would take anything less than a first

 

[The Chad and I]

Hugo Ralphsmith can play.
He is fast, not afraid of a contest, and has the confidence to demand the ball and finish.

I could see him slotting into a HFF/wing role easily.
Maybe even focus on that pressure forward role.
He's got the tools to be a threat in front of goal and the speed to make defenders shudder at the thought of taking him on.

Worthwhile pursuing IMO.

 

[HairyO]

We dont need more wings or small/mid sized defenders.

We need small/mid sized goal kickers, and a key forward and a key defender.

We seem to be attached to a lot of players who are in the 1st basket not the 2nd.

 

[bigbuddyboy]

i know nothing of ralphsmith whatsoever but by the looks of him I can’t help but think our only interest in him is to secretly just swap him for Bailey smith

6

Bailey Smith

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

8.5

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

9.6

4star

HB

10.2

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

3.2

4star

D

14.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.6

4star

on day 1 of preseason and the bulldogs will never know.

It’s genius from sleepy mark.

 

[projectdingley]

The Bailey Smith hate is very strange. His finals series in 21 was insanely good and he's been good since despite Bevo playing him out of position constantly.

His kicking isn't great but just about everything else with his game is very good when at his best.
In saying that, I can't see us getting him because I don't know if we would offer a first and I don't think Dogs would take anything less than a first

The Bailey Smith hate is very strange. His finals series in 21 was insanely good and he's been good since despite Bevo playing him out of position constantly.

His kicking isn't great but just about everything else with his game is very good when at his best.
In saying that, I can't see us getting him because I don't know if we would offer a first and I don't think Dogs would take anything less than a first

Dosen’t run two ways. Can’t lay a tackle, no defensive attributes. Any player just breezes past him.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

Smith is an absolute gun and would instantly improve any side. Anyone suggesting otherwise is having a laugh and cannot be taken seriously. He's not even 23 yet either.

Won't happen though. Hopefully next year we position ourselves to have a good crack.

 

[Blackhawk42]

I'm sure the same Hawks fans using Smith's poor 2023 form as a reason for not wanting him are also still suggesting Jiath is worth a first rounder if a club came asking for a trade.

Players are permitted to have form slumps during their careers without it meaning it's all over for them.

 

[BIGHAWK23]

Cats are all over him like a Bali suit.

Doesn't want to go to Geelong

Cotton on link is just lazy, barely been to head office and only zooms with staff

 

[SammyC]

I can’t see how any hawthorn nuffy during the curse and 3peat years would ever want to play for geelong.

Yes footy is a career and a business but there are some moral lines you don’t cross.

 

[rei154]

Doesn't want to go to Geelong

Cotton on link is just lazy, barely been to head office and only zooms with staff

I think the problem there is that he's already linked in with the high ups at Cotton On so that trick doesn't work quite as well.

 

[BIGHAWK23]

I think the problem there is that he's already linked in with the high ups at Cotton On so that trick doesn't work quite as well

He doesn't want to live in Geelong

 

[TylerDurden]

He doesn't want to live in Geelong

Heard the same.