i Think you may have missed the point about players not using their phones, no one else used the phone.
just because the box was not locked, doesn’t make breaking the rule right.
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just because the box was not locked, doesn’t make breaking the rule right.
Is that like banning everyone from driving cars to gatherings of any kind because it is a proven fact that drivers can't be trusted to not drink and drive or speed.
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The rule in question is 30.6 a (ii);
(ii) Clubs must not permit Persons other than Authorised Device Users to use Communication Devices in Match Day Restricted Areas except as permitted in the MDRA Policy.
Sanction: Up to 10 Units, payable by the Club for each offence
My contention is that so far no evidence has been shown of usage, and further more if there was usage whether it was in a MDRA.
depends how you define usage... for instance u can get done for drink driving if ur sitting in the driver seat of a parked car with the engine on despite not actually driving... considering the entire reason De Goey got his phone in the first place was to contact his family, there’s no chance he didn’t use it regardless... and they could get his phone records to prove that.
But that law actually states drunk whilst in charge of a motor vehicle, not whilst driving it. This rule actually says using it.
However, I would also accept though, that turning the phone on or any other activating activity would represent use. Just my opinion.
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It’s not even the usage per se, it’s the perception of usage, just as it’s the perception of the AFL having players who are corruptible and the opportunity to spot fix or pass on sensitive and privileged information.
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So apparently Buckley reckons Jordan picked up the phones after being subbed out for concussion.. so wasn't thinking straight.. he hands over Howe's phone to him.. was Howe concussed as well? Didn't bother opening his mouth to say.. put that back.. or was that an energy bar in the shape of a mobile phone?
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Hamstring related concussion!!!
He also repeated it 3 times so it must be true.
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Don't be such a drama queen.
You having a whinge about players getting on their phone as if they'd actually be "checking their Instagram" is ridiculous. Even more ridiculous is you painting Howe's attitude to Stepho's zero-IQ gambling move as "holier-than-thou", as if it wasn't the right thing to do as a leader of the club. You're simultaneously bemoaning the attitude I accept while shitting on Howe for not accepting a poor standard of behaviour. You do realise the irony there, right?
They broke the rules, and we will likely be punished for it, but it's not the mountain you're making it out to be.
Further to that, only ten people are approved to use a phone. Presumably most of them would be medical staff.
Why people are making such a fuss and demanding to see “ the rule” is beyond comprehension.
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I suppose Howe was just waiting at the door for Jordy to offer him a Powerade.. but surprised him with his mobile phone instead. And understaffed as well.. hence why the box was open. Hence why everyone that gets concussed can't reach into a box and figure out who's phone is who's. Miraculous get by De Goey there.
Had Howe been a metre inside that door.. he wouldn't have involved himself in it.. could have used the concussion rule to say that De Goey thought he had 2 mobile phones.. blurred double vision. His left hand was his right as well.
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They were probably both just checking in on their dogs.
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It is what it is.. take the fine.. and get on with it.
Fibs.
Fibs.
Can’t believe the holier than thou posturing about this on SEN on the drive home tonight. Host and callers sinking the boots in like they committed murder. FMD the first ones to throw stones are the ones who themselves
can’t meet the standards they set for others.
can’t meet the standards they set for others.
Definitely not.
Don‘t try distraction tactics. The AFL is a competition that sets its own rules. And in this case they have made a rule for the betterment of the competition and its sponsors.
All of the AFL players sign a document that acknowledges they will abide by the AFL rules. That cannot be disputed.
Using your phone when you're not supposed to isn't the right thing to do as a leader of the club.
So tell me what they'd be using their phones for during a ******* game? You suggesting that them checking Instagram is beyond the realms of possibility?
We don't really have to think too hard about Jordy's attention span and Howe was the bloke who managed to damage his hand playing with a Frisbee remember? We aren't talking about Mensa candidates here.
You would think with all the bullshit things the club, it's hierarchy and now 2 stupid players that found it too hard just to sit and watch their mates instead of waiting an hour or so to check their phones, have had going on of late that we could just do the basics right?
Or are you satisfied with mediocrity?
The Royal Sampler
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If they’re anything like mine, this is what to expect.
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Yeah cos concussion is a nothing issue these days hey?
And at that stage the media were saying Howe had done his knee.
If think family members do not worry, you are kidding yourself.
jmac70
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I guarantee, if this was two Sydney players there would be no action.
For those making excuses.
Feb 2014!
www.theage.com.au
Feb 2014!
AFL makes big call with clubs restricted to 10 phones on match day
Clubs will be limited to using just 10 mobile phones in designated risk zones on match day.
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For those making excuses.
Feb 2014!
AFL makes big call with clubs restricted to 10 phones on match day
Clubs will be limited to using just 10 mobile phones in designated risk zones on match day.
Try reading it mate.
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De Goey or Howe should have had their eyes on the tv screen inside the rooms.. wait for the footage to revert back to the game.. quickly grabbed a hold of their phones.. and rushed back in to the dressing room.. even though they were the only 2 players in the room.. and phone records would have shown some sort of use.. texting.. calls.. whatever.. they could have used a Drac style 'creeping assumption' excuse had the word got out.. and Bob's your uncle.. Got away with it.
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Or the GWS coach...
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So SEN is reporting the club was warned about breaching phone protocols earlier in the season.
The excuse about players messaging worried family and friends and De Goey being concussed flies out the window and it becomes a situation of general incompetence from the club or a hubris in blatant disregard of the rules.
The excuse about players messaging worried family and friends and De Goey being concussed flies out the window and it becomes a situation of general incompetence from the club or a hubris in blatant disregard of the rules.
